RT Dialogue
RT Dialogue
Welcome to the RT Dialogue with your co-hosts Lance Ahl & Rhett Smith | Sound and Video Engineer RO Smith In this podcast we desire to make connections, build community, and learn and practice the model of Restoration Therapy. More at: https://rtdialogue.substack.com/ Note: The podcast is labeled with an explicit rating because some episodes contain topics that are distressing to individuals, or inappropriate for minors (i.e. trauma, abuse, sexuality, substance use, etc.)
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Jul 3, 2026
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Episodes
Season 1 | Episode 28 | Special Guest, RT Therapist Dr. Tanner Hargrove -- Trust Intervention 12.08.2025 11:55
So we are back with Dr. Tanner Hargrove and his third intervention around trust. This is a five-part series, so make sure you check out all five this week as they become available: Destructive entitlement intervention Personal responsibility intervention Trust intervention Control intervention Multi-Versed intervention Short Bio Tanner wears many hats: therapist , clinical director at The...
Season 1 | Episode 27 | Special Guest, RT Therapist Dr. Tanner Hargrove -- Personal Responsibility Intervention 11.08.2025 13:41
So we are back with Dr. Tanner Hargrove and his second intervention around personal responsibility . This is a five-part series, so make sure you check out all five this week as they become available: Destructive entitlement intervention Personal responsibility intervention Trust intervention Control intervention Multi-Versed intervention Short Bio Tanner wears many hats: therapist , clinical d...
Season 1 | Episode 26 | Special Guest, RT Therapist Dr. Tanner Hargrove -- Destructive Entitlement Intervention 10.08.2025 22:43
We are really excited to have Dr. Tanner Hargrove on this episode. Tanner wears many hats: therapist , clinical director at The Hideaway Experience marriage intensive , professor , Level II RT therapist -- and he co-created the Turning from Anxiety Intensive . If you attended the Summit in February in Amarillo, Tanner's interventions in his couple's workshop had everyone talking. So we wanted to h...
Season 1 | Episode 25 | Re-Release of Ep. 20 with Mike Bishop 08.08.2025 1:05:21
As we continue to improve the quality of sound and listener experience on the podcast, we also wanted to re-release Episode 20 with Dr. Mike Bishop . Lance was having trouble with his mic on this episode, but we were able to clean up the audio a bit more. Thanks for listening and we hope you enjoy.
Season 1 | Episode 24 | Re-Release of Ep. 23 with Dr. Terrry Hargrave 07.08.2025 1:09:48
We want to apologize for some of the sound issues we have incurred in some previous episodes. We have been testing out new software along the way and learning as we go. But these conversations are really important to us and so we will continue to improve the listening experience for all of you until we get it just right. Moving forward we have brought someone on board to help us with sound and tec...
Season 1 | Episode 23 | Special Guest, Founder of Restoration Therapy, Dr. Terry Hargrave 30.07.2025 1:09:42
"Practice is the only pathway to change." --Dr. Terry Hargrave Today's special guest needs no introduction! We were very excited to have Dr. Terry Hargrave back onto the podcast to discuss a wide range of topics, and it was an opportunity to ask some questions that seem to come up a lot in the RT community. Terry is the founder of Restoration Therapy and the author of many books -- and ultimately...
Season 1 | Episode 22 | Special Guest, RT Therapist Steven Perez 24.07.2025 1:17:11
Welcome to Episode 22 of the RT Dialogue. In Season 1 we have been busy geting to know different members of the Restoration Therapy community, and it's been a really enjoyable experience. We hope you have enjoyed it as much as we have. Spotify | Apple | YouTube In this episode we spend time with Steven Perez who is an LPC on staff at the Restoration Therapy Center of San Diego and is also a Le...
Season 1 | Episode 21 | Special Guest, RT Therapist Chuck Roberts 16.07.2025 1:08:22
We really enjoyed getting to dive deep with our latest guest -- having met him more than a decade ago at a local church workshop, and then getting to spend time with him at the RT Summit this last February. Chuck Roberts is a Level 1 Restoration Therapy Therapist , and is in private practice at Life Restoration SOULutions -- which is part of the group practice Christian Counseling in Dallas . Chuc...
Season 1 | Episode 20 | Special Guest, RT Therapist and TWU Professor, Dr. Mike Bishop 09.07.2025 1:05:21
We were on a little bit of a break over the last few weeks as summer was in full swing and we were traveling a bit. But we are very excited to be back recording podcast episodes, and it was a lot of fun to ramp back up with Dr. Mike Bishop who is a Level II Restoration Therapist and Professor of Counseling at TWU (Texas Wesleyan University). As you will pick up in this episode, Dr. Bishop brings a...
Season 1 | Episode 19 | Special Guest, RT Therapist Dr. Ulrica "Tasha" Kassar 11.06.2025 1:11:04
We are really loving this journey connecting with therapists in the RT Community. It's amazing to hear the stories of how people came into discovering and falling in love with the Restoration Therapy model. In this episode we connected with Dr. Ulrica Kassar (who was brought to our attention by our last guest -- Bisola Adediji ) who is the Founder and CEO of Chosen Counseling and Coaching Serv...
Season 1 | Episode 18 | Special Guest, RT Therapist Bisola Adediji 04.06.2025 1:09:21
We really loved today's episode for a lot of reasons, but in particular Bisola Adediji is our first LMFT-A (associate) that we have had on the podcast, so we were really looking forward to hearing her newer journey coming into RT. Bisola is a therapist at Resilient Roots Counseling in Garland, TX and she shared about her passions for working with the mother-daughter relationship, and working w...
Season 1 | Episode 17 | Special Guest, RT Therapist Jason Wilkinson 29.05.2025 1:01:45
We had a fun time connecting with Restoration Therapist Jason Wilkinson on this week’s podcast. Jason lives in the Pacific Northwest and practices at Wellspace in Tigard, OR. Jason is a Level II Restoration Therapist and RT Consultant and Level 1 trainer . He has a long and rich history in youth ministry and is also a graduate of Fuller Theological Seminary’s MDiv program and George Fox University...
Season 1 | Episode 16 | The Notecard Intervention 21.05.2025 45:09
In this episode we discuss the notecard intervention that we teach in the Restoration Therapy anxiety intensives training. We hope you find it insightful and that you can put it into practice in your sessions.
Season 1 | Episode 15 | Restoration Therapy Roundup 14.05.2025 48:00
Welcome to the RT Dialogue with Lance Ahl and Rhett Smith. In this episode we decided to do something a little different. There are a lot of things happening in the world of Restoration Therapy -- many that we know about, and many that we do not. So in this episode we take some time to talk about all the things happening (intensives, local gatherings, summits, books, etc.). Books The Mindful Marri...
Season 1 | Episode 14 | Special Guest, RT Therapist Justin Little 11.05.2025 1:07:23
What an awesome conversation we had with Justin Little , who is the Clinical Director at Forage Wellness Collective in Sisters, Oregon. Justin is a creative soul and it comes out in our conversation that he loves bringing creativity into his life and work. We cover his beautiful journey to Restoration Therapy and the corresponding journey of forgiveness that he was also meandering down. While shar...
Season 1 | Episode 13 | Special Guest, RT Therapist and Author Clint Davis 07.05.2025 1:11:55
We were excited to finally get Restoration Therapist Clint Davis on the podcast. Clint has a large practice in Louisiana called Clint Davis Counseling and Integrative Wellness where they provide a wide range of services. It was great to hear his personal story and journey to Restoration Therapy during his time at Fuller Theological Seminary . We cover a variety of topics in this episode, but reall...
Season 1 | Episode 12 | Anxiety Roundtable w/Special Guests Terry Hargrave, Meghan Eaken, Tanner Hargrove and Nicole Zasowski 30.04.2025 1:21:03
"Anxiety is something you do in response to emotional dysregulation...Anxiety is ruminating on fear to the point where a person trains the brain to continue ruminating, that actually injures their identity and sense of safety." -- Terry Hargrave Anxiety is such an important topic as the number of people diagnosed with anxiety each year is on the increase, and the public conversation arou...
Season 1 | Episode 11 | Special Guest, RT Therapist & Fuller Seminary Adjunct Professor, Michael Piciucco 23.04.2025 1:11:14
This was such a fun and rich conversation on this week's episode with Michael Piciucco, as we explored territory around the idea of embodying truth in the Restoration Therapy model. Michael is a Level II Restoration Therapy therapist in practice in Glendale, AZ at Arrowhead Family Systems , as well as an adjunct professor at Fuller Theological Seminary in Phoenix, AZ. We hope you really enjoy this...
Season 1 | Episode 10 | Special Guest, RT Therapist Stephenie Lievense 17.04.2025 59:18
This was such a great time talking with Stephenie as she helped us think through how we navigate safety in a world that is often not safe. One of the challenges many therapists face in working with clients is how to empower clients to find safety in the midst of difficult circumstances. We appreciate Stephenie's willingness and vulnerability in helping us find our way forward. And we are so th...
Season 1 | Episode 9 | Special Guest, RT Therapist & Coach Meghan Eaken 08.04.2025 1:05:54
It was so great to have Meghan on the RT Dialogue podcast, as it has been a conversation we have been looking to for a long time. Meghan is very active in the RT community, and has been trained as an RT Therapist and Restoration Coach . In this episode we explore what Restoration Coaching is, and the differences between therapy and coaching. The the heart of both her love of therapy and coaching i...
Season 1 | Episode 8 | Lance & Rhett Explore Self-Regulation vs. Co-Regulation 01.04.2025 1:20:18
If there is any episode to date that I would describe as a riffing conversation, it would be this one. In this episode we explore the topic of self-regulation versus co-regulation. As we look at the field of psychology and the practice of therapy, many models are moving in one of these directions -- towards co-regulation, or towards self-regulation. One of the differentiating aspects of Restoratio...
Season 1 | Episode 7 | Special Guest, RT Therapist and Author of The Mindful Marriage, Ron Deal 27.03.2025 1:37:18
We had such a fun and deep conversation with Ron Deal , who many know in the Restoration Therapy community. Ron is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, author, podcaster, speaker, and is highly sought after for his work with blended families and marriage enrichment . Ron and his wife Nan, along with Terry and Sharon Hargrave are the authors of T he Mindful Marriage: Create Your Best Relations...
Season 1 | Episode 6 | Special Guest, RT Therapist Monica DiCristina 17.03.2025 1:09:10
We are so excited to welcome Restoration Therapist Monica DiCristina to Episode 6 of the RT Dialogue Podcast. We had such a fun and meaningful conversation with Monica, covering a wide array of topics, and so we are thankful to be able to share this with you. Monica is a therapist in private practice in Atlanta, and she is the author of the new book, Your Pain Has a Name: A Therapist's Invitat...
Season 1 | Episode 5 | Co-Hosts Lance Ahl & Rhett Smith Discuss Anxiety Intensive Model 02.03.2025 40:38
Welcome back to RT Dialogue, Season 1, Episode 5. On this episode we talk about Lance receiving his doctorate this week, which was focused on anxiety intensives. We discuss how the Restoration Therapy anxiety intensives developed, and ongoing research, development and practice of the intensive model underway. We also dive into the Stop, Turn, Slow intervention developed by Terry Hargrave during th...
Season 1 | Episode 4 | Special Guests, Restoration Therapy Founders Terry and Sharon Hargrave 16.02.2025 1:32:09
We were so excited to have Terry and Sharon Hargrave on the RT Dialogue. Not only are they the founders of Restoration Therapy, but we (and many of you) consider them mentors and close friends. In this episode we explore the origins of Restoration Therapy and the significant iterations along the way. Terry and Sharon are the authors many books and articles, covering a wide range of topics in thera...
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