Al Ferguson and Sean Cate
Roots Running
Roots is a trail and ultrarunning focused show born out of a deep appreciation for the humble origins of our sport, and a dedication to shedding light on stories that won't otherwise be told.
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Al Ferguson and Sean Cate
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Oct 3, 2025
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Episodes
Hellgate 100k Preview and This Year In Ultra Running featuring Alvah Ferguson: WTGGT - Episode 70 10.12.2024 1:18:49
On this weeks episode Sean Cate and special guest Alvah Ferguson breakdown Sean’s unorthodox training block for the upcoming Hellgate 100k. Additionally the fellas announce their upcoming new podcast exclusively dedicated to Trail and Ultra Running news, Trail Talk. The second half of the podcast covers Sean and Alvah’s most notable performances in ultra running for the 2024 year. Thanks for lis...
Recommitting to Goals Amidst Seasonal Depression and Holiday Mayhem-WTGGT: Episode 68 03.12.2024 42:16
On today's episode the boys get real about how they approach Holiday season and cold winter days in terms of training and eating. Most people experience weight gain and a significant decrease in physical activity due to shorter days, cold weather, and abundance of holiday parties where the food might be delicious, but not necessarily nutritious. Adam and Sean give their mindset and practical tips...
Cycling Culture with Dylan Curtis: WTGGT - Episode 67 26.11.2024 1:19:56
Todays episode features Fort Wayne local legend, Founder and Manager of Apex Cycling, and new friend of Sean’s Dylan Curtis. Dylan is extremely passionate about riding bikes, which he’s been doing since he could walk (without training wheels). The boys talk about why Sean is dead wrong about his impression of cycling culture, about various teams Dylan has raced with competitively, and how he saw...
What's The Next Big Fitness Trend: WTGGT - Episode 66 19.11.2024 1:31:42
Adam and Sean chat about the various challenges of job searching and transition phases in life. If you want to see the exercise Sean was attempting to describe check it out here. Other topics include: -The current arc of hybrid athlete training and where we go from here. -Maximalism versus Minimalism in fitness. -Why we never really want to be full time influencers. -Hobbyfluencers and day in the...
The Overtraining Undertraining Pendulum: WTGGT- Episode 65 12.11.2024 58:55
Whats cooking Tough Fam. Today your beloved hosts cover a myriad of topics from: -Effective strength training can happen in 20-45min 4 days a week -Intensity is the key to efficient training -Why people overtrain -Building confidence doing hard things -Looking for challenges that stretch your comfort zone without overtraining -Adam’s more laid back approach to training -The difficulty of balancing...
Just Run as Fast as You Can: WTGGT - Episode 64 05.11.2024 49:10
Your beloved Hosts Adam and Sean catch up on todays episode and Sean shares reflections of how he's redefined his running/training/racing goals in a way that is more aligned with his real values. These realizations opened up conversations about honest self reflection, the things that influence our beliefs about ourselves, and what fuels our desires. Listen to the Run Singletrack podcast which insp...
Reframe Your Limits: WTGGT - Episode 63 29.10.2024 58:33
Welcome to another week and yet another collab with Ben Wright's 'Between The Guidelines' podcast. This time around, Ben and Adam catch up covering Ben's new interest in martial arts, philosophical discussions on how our physical activities can help us reframe the limits our minds put on our abilities to overcome. Thankful for Ben Wright and his time this week! Check out Between The Guidelines on...
Pro Baseballer, Counselor, and Runner Walk Into A Room: WTGGT - Episode 62 22.10.2024 59:02
This week Sean sits down with a new friend, Langston Ginder to talk about his journey playing independent league baseball with hopes of one day getting called up to the MLB. In addition to baseball, Langston is also pursuing a Masters degree in Mental Health Counseling and shares insights from his experience and training in therapy as they relate to athletics and life as a whole. As always, thanks...
Tough Truths with Adam and Sean: WTGGT - Episode 61 15.10.2024 51:53
Sean and Adam catch up on this episode. Together, the boys philosophize about what life would be like if they had stayed on some of the paths they were on early in college. Other conversation includes how to change your perspective, the importance of voicing your internal narrative out loud with those you trust, and other insightful reflections. Staying tough sometimes means reaching out in vulner...
Ultra Running, Investing, and Bees with Brinton Johns: WTGGT -Episode 60 08.10.2024 56:55
Welcome to the podcast Brinton Johns! Brinton is an investor and bee keeper living in Golden, Colorado. Brinton enjoys ultra running, spending time with his kids, and backpacking. Adam and Sean attempt to download some of his wisdom and somehow synthesize the commonalities between investing, ultra distance running, and bee keeping. This is your reminder to take a breath. We're playing the long g...
STOP FOAM ROLLING: WTGGT - Episode 59 01.10.2024 40:29
HAPPY TUESDAY! The fellas run through various recovery techniques and discuss whether they are actually helpful for increased MUSCLE growth or not. Dr. Mike's video inspiring todays episode here Sorry not sorry for the clickbait title. Prayers out to our Asheville and Greenville fam. Stay tough Fam❤️
Heat Training for Peak Performance: WTGGT - Episode 58 26.09.2024 50:41
Sean and Adam dive into the new scientific research regarding heat training and adaptations for increased endurance performance. Sean outlines how, and why heat training can be helpful and is relatively accessible for everyone. Disclaimer: heat training comes with inherent risks! Do your own research and use common sense when implementing these types of exercises. As always, when the going gets to...
Run Rabbit Run 100 Recap: When The Going Gets Tough - Episode 57 17.09.2024 44:09
The fellas discuss Sean's recent trip out to Steamboat Springs Colorado to crew friend and legend Will Stough in his first 100 miler.
Growth From Change: WTGGT - Episode 56 09.09.2024 47:10
Adam and Sean have a good old fashioned catch-up and discuss some life transitions they're both adapting and adjusting to. The boys also discuss how their athletic pursuits are currently evolving in response to those changes, and what challenges they are looking forward to.
Crossfit w/ The Kuhlman Sisters: WTGGT - Episode 55 26.08.2024 1:22:08
Welcome to the tough family Jessi and Jacy Kuhlman! These sisters are two of the toughest women we've had the great opportunity of hosting. Jessi and Jacy share about their experience playing on hockey teams with high school boys, playing high level collegiate hockey, and how that lead them to coaching and competing at some of the highest levels of Crossfit in the country. Jessi and Jacy both l...
Fitness Trackers as Tools: WTGGT- Episode 54 19.08.2024 39:21
Sean and Adam discuss the recently trending fitness trackers and the pros/cons of using them. Much like social media, these tools can be extremely useful. As powerful as these watches and trackers have become, they can be inaccurate and highly addictive. All this and more on this weeks episode of WTGGT. Stay tough out there! A&S
Calories In Calories Out, Insulin, and Fat Loss/Gain: WTGGT- Episode 53 09.08.2024 1:09:09
Welcome to a very special episode of WTGGT with hosts Sean Cate and Adam Girard, and a very special guest, PhD student and friend Trace Cruz. Todays episode settles some confusing and inaccurate thoughts about how we gain or lose weight specifically in the form of body fat. Trace helps settle the score for Adam and Sean's differing perspectives on how best to lose fat, and what times of diets...
ANOUNCEMENT: Upcoming WTGGT SHOWDOWN 06.08.2024 5:50
What's up tough family! We (Adam and Sean) are super excited to let you all in on news regarding an upcoming episode that has the potential to shape the future of the podcast. We will be hosting an epic showdown between Trace Cruz, and Sean Cate discussing the ins and outs of Calories In Calories Out (CICO) versus Carbohydrate Insulin Model of weightless. Sean is hopelessly undereducated compa...
State of the Podcast Address: WTGGT- Episode 52 30.07.2024 51:30
Just a classic Adam+Sean ramble on various topics. Slight sparring from the boys on different perspectives on fatloss, all to unfold in a future podcast! Thanks for hanging with us #mothertoughers Love, Sean and Adam
Deloading and Periodization for Science Based Training: WTGGT - Episode 51 23.07.2024 41:03
Adams first week of NO TRAINING in over a year! Sean and Adam discuss the importance of periodically and intentionally taking time to to train at lower intensities and take actual time off from training. Sean shares how his motivation has been shifting from singularly race focused training to lifestyle training. #hybridtraining #deloading #sciencebasedlifiting #ultrarunning #marathontraining #moth...
Science Based Lifting, Dr. Mike Israetel, 50th Episode Recap: WTGGT - Episode 50 15.07.2024 43:45
Sean and Adam sit down for the 50th episode of When the Going Gets Tough. To start Adam rants about science based lifting, which is followed by a bit of reflection on the first couple episodes.
Chris Jean speaks on hard work and proving skeptics wrong: WTGGT - Episode 49 01.07.2024 59:33
Adam and Sean sit down with Chris Jean (@asosipapi @docdontmiss). Chris is a student currently getting a PHD in biomedical engineering at Georgia Tech, while simultaneously getting an MBA. His athletic background is in basketball, but now focuses on a body building inspired lifting routine.
Rise of the Run Club & Hybrid Athlete Trends: WTGGT - Episode 48 24.06.2024 39:02
Sean and Adam discuss how the current landscape on social media and COVID19 catalyzed the explosion of Run Clubs first in Europe and now in major cities all across the US. Fellas also cover how and maybe why hybridized training is trending particularly hard right now and cover a few of the key 'influencers' on that front. Want to be a part of this community? Follow the podcast for weekly e...
Tanner Petty discusses how to prioritize training with a busy lifestyle: WTGGT - Episode - 47 17.06.2024 1:00:39
Sean and Adam sit down with Tanner Petty. Tanner is a father of 3, but also a personal training in the Lynchburg area. He showcases how everyone can make time to train, even if that time is 15 min.
Nutrition, Controversial Foods, and Burnout: WTGGT -Episode 46 10.06.2024 50:32
A very special episode recorded on Adam's birthday. Topics include but are not limited to healthy eating habits, raw milk controversy, and the never ending puzzle of dialing in fitness in the midst of work/life balance. Love you guys, stay #tough
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