Real Estate Investing with RealDealChat

Attorney and surety expert Gary Eastman explains how bonds protect real estate investors from delays, contractor failures, and costly litigation. In this episode of RealDealChat , Gary Eastman—attorney and founder of Swift Bonds —breaks down what surety bonds really are, why they exist, and when real estate investors should actually use them. Gary shares how he accidentally built a nationwide sure...

Erik Nordstrom and Eric Strom share how surviving the 2008 crash shaped their approach to partnerships, underwriting, and in-house property management. In this episode of RealDealChat , Erik Nordstrom and Eric Strom of Iron Ridge Capital break down what nearly two decades of investing together has taught them about real estate, relationships, and risk. We start with Erik’s early exposure to apartm...

Dave Holman shares how buy-and-hold real estate, strong operations, and impact-driven housing can create durable wealth and thriving communities. In this episode of RealDealChat , Dave Holman—real estate investor, broker, and property manager—walks through a grounded, real-world approach to building wealth through long-term ownership and responsible operations . Dave shares how a nontraditional pa...

Mark Shuler explains why real estate success isn’t about intellect or experience—it’s about grit, systems, and relentless execution. In this episode of RealDealChat , Mark Shuler—architect turned multifamily syndicator—breaks down what it really takes to scale in commercial real estate. With over $600M in assets, 5,000+ doors, and 200+ employees , Mark shares how he transitioned from being a hired...

Mike Zlotnik breaks down real estate market cycles, why predictability matters more than hype, and how chess-level thinking applies to investing. In this episode of RealDealChat , Mike Zlotnik returns for a deep, no-nonsense conversation on market cycles, risk, and building a resilient real estate portfolio. Mike shares his journey from political refugee and chess master to tech executive and full...

Chris Prefontaine breaks down why creative real estate works in every market—and why most investors quit before the breakthrough. In this episode of RealDealChat , Chris Prefontaine returns to break down the fundamentals of creative real estate investing and why patience—not tactics—is the missing ingredient for most investors. Chris shares his journey from traditional building and brokerage to ge...

Colton Pace explains why most property tax bills are wrong—and how homeowners and investors can reduce expenses without upfront risk. In this episode of RealDealChat , Colton Pace, co-founder of Ownwell, breaks down one of the most overlooked wealth drains in real estate: property taxes that go unquestioned year after year . Colton shares how his experience working with a multi-billion-dollar fami...

After serving time in federal prison, Fuzzy Jardine rebuilt his life—and went on to build 150+ affordable homes in Hawaii using values-driven real estate. In this episode of RealDealChat , Kolaiah “Fuzzy” Jardine shares one of the most powerful real estate journeys you’ll hear—rising from a troubled past and federal prison sentence to becoming a successful developer focused on affordable housing f...

Nathan Schiess explains why personal branding isn’t optional for real estate investors—and why waiting until you need capital is already too late. In this episode of RealDealChat , Nathan Schiess—real estate investor turned personal branding consultant—breaks down why documenting your journey matters more than perfecting your pitch. Nathan shares his own story of building and liquidating a real es...

Natalie Cloutier shares how she built a multimillion-dollar rental portfolio by focusing on small new builds, sweat equity, and long-term thinking. In this episode of RealDealChat , Natalie Cloutier—co-founder of The New Build Couple and author of a new book on small-scale development—breaks down how she and her husband built a $13M+ rental portfolio by starting with their own home and scaling int...

Cost segregation expert Erik Oliver explains why this strategy now works for small rentals—and how 100% bonus depreciation changes the game. In this episode of RealDealChat , Erik Oliver breaks down cost segregation in plain English and explains why it’s no longer just for massive commercial properties. We cover how accelerated depreciation works, why bonus depreciation puts cost segregation “on s...

Jason Hull explains why bad property managers destroy returns—and why smart investors start with the manager, not the property. In this episode of RealDealChat , Jason Hull, founder of DoorGrow and host of The DoorGrow Show , breaks down one of the most overlooked truths in real estate investing: property management—not the property—is the key to true passive income. We unpack why so many investor...

Franchise expert Adam Goldman explains how the right franchise can complement real estate investing, create deal flow, and unlock scalable systems. In this episode of RealDealChat , Adam Goldman—former franchise owner turned franchise consultant—breaks down how franchising can work alongside real estate investing to create additional income, systems, and leverage. Adam shares his journey from owni...

One answered phone call launched Brian Truman into multifamily real estate—and built a career powered by relationships, not transactions. In this episode of RealDealChat , Brian Truman shares the unlikely origin story that launched his multifamily career just weeks after getting his real estate license—starting with a Saturday night phone call, a last-minute 1031 exchange, and a connection that ch...

After losing everything in the 2008 crash, Allen Lomax rebuilt his life by rethinking wealth, taxes, and trust—and created The Great Tax Escape. In this episode of RealDealChat , Allen Lomax shares a deeply personal story of loss, reinvention, and clarity after the 2008 financial crash wiped out everything he had built. We explore why high-income professionals often feel trapped despite success, h...

After a near-fatal accident put him in a coma, Nick Prefontaine rebuilt his life by learning to trust his inner voice—and that mindset shaped everything that followed. In this powerful episode of RealDealChat, Nick Prefontaine shares the life-altering story that began with a snowboarding accident, a coma, and doctors saying he might never walk, talk, or eat again. Nick breaks down the STEP System...

Mortgage note investing is often pitched as “passive income,” but that’s not the full story. In this episode of RealDealChat , Jack Hoss sits down with Jamie Bateman of Labrador Lending to explain how mortgage note investing actually works, why it’s different from owning rental properties, and what investors should realistically expect before getting started. Jamie shares his journey from W-2 empl...

Thomas Collins explains house hacking, multifamily investing, and how to make your assets pay for your lifestyle—starting with your first property. Full Description In this episode of RealDealChat , Jack Hoss sits down with Thomas Collins , founder of Shift Rich Academy , to break down one of the most powerful entry points into real estate investing: house hacking . Thomas shares how a single conv...

Eddie Speed explains why note investing is outperforming rentals, how investors become the bank, and why seller financing is the next shift. In this episode of RealDealChat , Jack Hoss sits down with Eddie Speed , founder of NoteSchool , to break down why note investing and seller financing are rapidly outperforming traditional rental properties in today’s market. Eddie explains why rising expense...

Mitchell Osmond explains why high-performing men feel powerful at work but disconnected at home—and how to rebuild marriage, health, and purpose. In this episode of RealDealChat , Jack Hoss sits down with Mitchell Osmond , founder of Dad Nation and host of the Dad Nation Podcast, for a powerful conversation on marriage, masculinity, leadership, and emotional connection . Mitchell works exclusively...

Giuseppe Grammatico explains franchising, AI automation, and how real estate investors use franchises to build predictable cash flow and scale smarter. Full Description In this episode of RealDealChat , Jack Hoss sits down with Giuseppe Grammatico , franchise consultant and founder of GG The Franchise Guide , to break down how franchising intersects with real estate investing, cash flow, and AI-po...

Jose Berlanga explains how he created his own real estate market, why focus beats growth, and the costly mistakes developers make chasing trends. In this episode of RealDealChat , Jack Hoss sits down with Jose Berlanga , a veteran real estate developer and entrepreneur, to break down how he created demand where none existed —and why focus, patience, and clarity matter more than chasing hot markets...

David Morgan explains gold, silver, real estate, and why the dollar is losing trust—plus how investors protect wealth when the monetary system breaks. In this episode of RealDealChat , Jack Hoss sits down with David Morgan , founder of The Morgan Report and one of the most respected analysts in precious metals, to unpack what’s really happening inside the global monetary system. David shares how h...

David C. Barnett breaks down buying small businesses vs real estate, the risks investors overlook, and how to build resilient, cash-flowing companies. In this episode of RealDealChat , Jack Hoss sits down with David C. Barnett , author of The Business Fortress and one of the most respected voices in small business acquisition, to unpack the real differences between buying businesses and investing...

Brent Kesler explains infinite banking, how he paid off nearly $1M in debt, and why the wealthy recycle money using the Money Multiplier method. In this episode of RealDealChat , Jack Hoss welcomes back Brent Kesler , founder of The Money Multiplier , to break down one of the most misunderstood wealth strategies in real estate and investing: infinite banking . Brent shares how he and his wife elim...