Jason Mlicki & Jeff McKay
Rattle & Pedal: B2B Marketing Podcast
Jason Mlicki, agency leader, and Jeff McKay, former global CMO, discuss growth, marketing, and life in professional services in this weekly podcast. The duo offers divergent thoughts on solving the issues practice leaders and marketers confront—or probably should—including stupid sh*t Marketing should NOT do, how Marketing ruins everything, the BS of professional services, and unleashing your Young Turks. Executive guests and industry experts join frequently to share their insights and experiences. It’s all served up with humor and a refreshing dose of reality from two guys who know how to gro...
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Jason Mlicki & Jeff McKay
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Jul 6, 2026
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Episodes
3 Steps to Get Sales and Marketing On the Same Revenue-Generating Page 14.01.2022 26:08
Before you try to align Sales and Marketing, you must realize that you’re not solving a problem like the Hatfields and McCoys feud. Instead, you’re managing a tension to its synergistic and healthy potential. The post 3 Steps to Get Sales and Marketing On the Same Revenue-Generating Page appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Humanizing Sales for Buyers—and Sellers—with Andy Paul from The Sales House 07.01.2022 31:31
Is your team “selling out” or “selling in”? Learn how to use the normal attributes of being human to sell both more naturally and how buyers really prefer to buy. The post Humanizing Sales for Buyers—and Sellers—with Andy Paul from The Sales House appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Shifting Your Firm from a Seller-Doer to a Thinker-Seller Culture 29.12.2021 25:03
To scale, a firm must break out of the billable-hour trap. Killing the Seller-Doer mindset is the first step in getting free and unleashing your firm’s growth. The post Shifting Your Firm from a Seller-Doer to a Thinker-Seller Culture appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
How to Enable Clients to Make a Smarter Complex Purchase with Joe Rice from CXponent 11.12.2021 27:44
Joe Rice, CEO of CXponent, shares how professional services firms can help buying committees validate solutions and build consensus along the buyer’s journey The post How to Enable Clients to Make a Smarter Complex Purchase with Joe Rice from CXponent appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Why RFPs Suck and What to Do About It with Cal Harrison from Beyond Referrals 19.11.2021 34:24
Responding to RFPs in professional services firms sucks. RFPs are inefficient, expensive, and seldom lead to selecting the most qualified provider. Cal Harrison of Beyond Referrals teaches us how to fix them. The post Why RFPs Suck and What to Do About It with Cal Harrison from Beyond Referrals appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Avoiding the Sales Kill Box with Gartner’s Maria Boulden 12.11.2021 28:24
Content marketing was supposed to make buying and selling easier. Unfortunately, it did just the opposite. Gartner’s CSO Whisperer, Maria Boulden, shares why the pandemic, digitization, and sales behavior have combined for inefficiency and ineffectiveness. The post Avoiding the Sales Kill Box with Gartner’s Maria Boulden appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
From Value-Based Pricing to Value-Based Selling with Blair Enns – Part 2 05.11.2021 16:31
In part 2, Blair Enns shares how expertise, positioning, and value-based selling are inextricably linked. Learn why you should narrow your expertise and develop a differentiated POV that connects with buyers who value the value you provide. The post From Value-Based Pricing to Value-Based Selling with Blair Enns – Part 2 appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
From Value-Based Pricing to Value-Based Selling with Blair Enns – Part 1 30.10.2021 23:42
You cannot implement a coveted value-based pricing approach unless you implement value-based selling first. Learn why and how to do both effectively. The post From Value-Based Pricing to Value-Based Selling with Blair Enns – Part 1 appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Selling professional services is evolving. What does modern selling look like today? 15.10.2021 26:25
Selling professional services in a technology-powered, content-marketing-inundated world is evolving. Is your firm adjusting its approach? The post Selling professional services is evolving. What does modern selling look like today? appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Our Leadership Heroes 04.10.2021 28:06
Leaders have a HUGE impact on our work and lives. A firm’s culture drives its growth and leaders drive the culture. These are the special people who have inspired and taught us to be leaders. The post Our Leadership Heroes appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Creating a Culture That Unleashes Your Firm’s Growth Potential 28.09.2021 24:04
We cover the leadership behaviors that shape growth-oriented cultures and separate the best firms from the mediocre ones. The post Creating a Culture That Unleashes Your Firm’s Growth Potential appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Leadership Foibles That Limit Firm Growth 10.09.2021 24:41
Culture enables growth and leaders create culture. Are you creating a culture that enables growth or destroys your potential? The post Leadership Foibles That Limit Firm Growth appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
The Fears that Limit Leaders and Firms 27.08.2021 23:51
What fears do we humans suffer and where do they come from? We discuss the roots of the anxieties that shape our thinking, drive our behaviors, and fashion our firms’ cultures. The post The Fears that Limit Leaders and Firms appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
How Fear Inhibits Growth in Professional Services 16.08.2021 27:13
Fear is the elephant in the room of many professional services firms, fear of not knowing an answer, looking stupid, making a mistake, or “failing” in some way. Jeff Munn, a recovering consultant turned leadership coach, tells us how to recognize and address this obstacle so your firm can realize its growth potential. The post How Fear Inhibits Growth in Professional Services appeared first on Rat...
The Growing List of Our “Biggest” Mistakes 22.07.2021 27:50
We revisit one of our most popular–and humbling–podcast subjects, “How we’ve screwed things up–and learned–along our careers.” The post The Growing List of Our “Biggest” Mistakes appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
How to Approach ESG Marketing and Branding Successfully 09.07.2021 27:44
ESG will strategically impact professional services firms. Here’s how leaders can think about the ramifications to their firm’s positioning, demand generation, and employer brand. The post How to Approach ESG Marketing and Branding Successfully appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
The Risks and Rewards of ESG Positioning 02.07.2021 24:32
Environmental Social, and Governance (ESG) may not be the simple, straightforward trend you think it is. How you position your firm’s relationship to each area presents rewards and risks to your brand and firm’s performance. Have you defined the risks and rewards for your firm? The post The Risks and Rewards of ESG Positioning appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
How Will ESG Impact Professionals Services Brands? 25.06.2021 24:54
In the great post-COVID reset, Environmental, Social, and Governance measures are moving front and center when accessing capital, proposing new business, and hiring talent. We discuss the strategic implications of ESG on firms and their brands. The post How Will ESG Impact Professionals Services Brands? appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Tips for Building a Base of High-Quality Leads 18.06.2021 26:14
Every firm wants more leads. Here are some critical tips to get the most out of your lead generation investments of time and money. The post Tips for Building a Base of High-Quality Leads appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Bridging from Intellectual Capital to Lead Generation: An Interview with Tom Hessen, CEO of 9 Lenses 11.06.2021 29:46
We discuss how to use assessment tools throughout the marketing and sales funnel and the neuroscience behind driving higher quality leads and differentiated sales conversations. The post Bridging from Intellectual Capital to Lead Generation: An Interview with Tom Hessen, CEO of 9 Lenses appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Post-pandemic Lead Flow Research to Drive Your Lead Generation Strategy 04.06.2021 22:54
What the early-pandemic and late-pandemic data say about leads and sales pipelines. We cover significant changes to lead volume, deal values, and sales cycle times. Is your firm’s performance up to par? The post Post-pandemic Lead Flow Research to Drive Your Lead Generation Strategy appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
The Strategic Importance of Lead Management 28.05.2021 28:36
Think you already know how to manage leads, don’t think lead management is important, or don’t know how to manage leads? This episode sheds light on the strategic importance of lead management and how top firms do it. The post The Strategic Importance of Lead Management appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Celebrating 100 Episodes! 17.05.2021 29:34
Jason and Jeff celebrate our 100th episode and 1087 days of bloviating with phenomenal guests and loyal listeners. Hear what listeners say about their favorite episodes, why they listen, and what J & J have learned from guests and one another. The post Celebrating 100 Episodes! appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
What is a Lead? 08.05.2021 26:29
No term is more misunderstood in professional services marketing than the word lead. Learn why the proper definition is important and what it means to revenue generation activities. The post What is a Lead? appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Intellectual Capital Hits and Misses: An Interview with Thought Leadership Guru, Bob Buday – Part 2 30.04.2021 27:19
The thought leadership thought leader, Bob Buday shares lessons learned from a 30-year career helping firms think about and publish thought leadership in Harvard Business Review, Forbes and other prestigious journals. The post Intellectual Capital Hits and Misses: An Interview with Thought Leadership Guru, Bob Buday – Part 2 appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
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