Jason Mlicki & Jeff McKay
Rattle & Pedal: B2B Marketing Podcast
Jason Mlicki, agency leader, and Jeff McKay, former global CMO, discuss growth, marketing, and life in professional services in this weekly podcast. The duo offers divergent thoughts on solving the issues practice leaders and marketers confront—or probably should—including stupid sh*t Marketing should NOT do, how Marketing ruins everything, the BS of professional services, and unleashing your Young Turks. Executive guests and industry experts join frequently to share their insights and experiences. It’s all served up with humor and a refreshing dose of reality from two guys who know how to gro...
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Jason Mlicki & Jeff McKay
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Jul 6, 2026
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Episodes
The Global State of the Accounting Industry with Giles Brake of Alliott Global Alliance 09.09.2022 28:34
Giles Brake, CEO of Alliott Global Alliance, an international alliance of independent professional firms, shares insights on the global state of owner-managed accounting firms. The war for talent continues, firms are turning away business, succession planning is a priority, and innovations are taking hold. The post The Global State of the Accounting Industry with Giles Brake of Alliott Global Alli...
Why Professional Services SaaS Ambitions Often Fail with Mark Littlewood 02.09.2022 49:30
Mark Littlewood, CEO of the Business of Software, joins us to talk about the state of the software business — where it’s been, where it’s going, and why professional services firms’ software ambitions often fail. The post Why Professional Services SaaS Ambitions Often Fail with Mark Littlewood appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Creating Multi-generational Value: Lessons from Family Business with Kristi Daeda, CEO of The Family Business Consulting Group 26.08.2022 34:14
Kristi Daeda, CEO of The Family Business Consulting Group, shares lessons professional services firms can take away from family businesses to turn a founder’s blood, sweat, and tears into multi-generational value and a legacy. The post Creating Multi-generational Value: Lessons from Family Business with Kristi Daeda, CEO of The Family Business Consulting Group appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Big Thoughts on Creating Value From Serial Founder, Jay Laabs 19.08.2022 28:11
Jay Laabs, CEO of Spaulding Ridge, shares hard-learned lessons from life as a serial founder, acquirer, and board member of professional services firms. From defining value to measuring what matters most to firing clients, Jay offers priceless advice for his peers trying to create more valuable firms. The post Big Thoughts on Creating Value From Serial Founder, Jay Laabs appeared first on Rattle a...
Adapting Your Business Model to Maximize Value with Mark Stach 29.07.2022 45:19
Mark Stach, Chief Services Officer from ESG SaaS-provider Sphera, shares when, why, and how firms should change their business models to maximize value for clients and the firm. The post Adapting Your Business Model to Maximize Value with Mark Stach appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Determining and Driving a Firm’s Core Value-A Turnaround Expert’s View 18.07.2022 29:49
Jeff Hyland from turnaround expert, CR3, tells us how CR3 determines a firm’s core value and why inertia is the greatest threat to long-term value creation for both healthy and at-risk firms. The post Determining and Driving a Firm’s Core Value-A Turnaround Expert’s View appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Creating and Realizing Value in the AEC Industry 11.07.2022 31:27
Steve Gido from ROG Partners, a leading valuation firm, talks about macro and micro trends impacting the creation and realization of value in the AEC industry. The post Creating and Realizing Value in the AEC Industry appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
The Investor’s Perspective on Value with Tercera’s Michelle Swan 24.06.2022 31:18
Michelle Swan joins us to talk about the objective and subjective value drivers that her growth-equity firm, Tercera, uses to evaluate firms. We learn that value is often in the eye of the beholder. The post The Investor’s Perspective on Value with Tercera’s Michelle Swan appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
The Importance of Creating a Valuable Firm 17.06.2022 29:27
We pivot to our new series, Creating a more valuable firm. In this episode, we talk about the definition of value and the value-creating levers leaders can pull to systematically enhance their firms. The post The Importance of Creating a Valuable Firm appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Moving Beyond Just a List: Developing a Strategic Key Account Program 10.06.2022 33:52
Brian Caffarelli from Hewitt joins us again to share how to select key accounts, align your firm, and begin pursuing your ideal targets. The post Moving Beyond Just a List: Developing a Strategic Key Account Program appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Is the Unified Commercial Engine Organizational Structure Right for Professional Services Firms? 27.05.2022 27:53
The Unified Commercial Engine used by Smart Technologies is an intuitive and innovative approach to organizing the sales and marketing function. We discuss the pros and cons of using it in professional services firms. The post Is the Unified Commercial Engine Organizational Structure Right for Professional Services Firms? appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Moving from a Reactive to Proactive Sales Strategy 20.05.2022 36:54
Whether selling candy bars or complex B2B solutions, you need a sales plan. Jeff Bishop shares how to set your sales strategy in motion with actionable sales planning guidance. The post Moving from a Reactive to Proactive Sales Strategy appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Blowing Up Sales and Marketing with the Unified Commercial Engine 12.05.2022 39:21
What would happen if you blew up sales and marketing altogether? As it turns out, Jenna Pipchuk and Jeff Lowe of Smart Technologies did just that. And amazing things started to happen. The post Blowing Up Sales and Marketing with the Unified Commercial Engine appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Applying Conversational Intelligence with Revenue.io CEO, Howard Brown 29.04.2022 43:24
Conversational Intelligence is the “game tape” for high-performance salespeople. Learn from industry leader, Revenue.io’s CEO, Howard Brown how to apply this game-changing technology to your revenue generation efforts. The post Applying Conversational Intelligence with Revenue.io CEO, Howard Brown appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Unleashing the Power of Sales and Marketing Tech with Dan Gottlieb from Gartner – Pt 2 22.04.2022 16:19
We discuss more tech roll-up chaos and answer the question, “Is Saletech the new Martech?” The post Unleashing the Power of Sales and Marketing Tech with Dan Gottlieb from Gartner – Pt 2 appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Unleashing the Power of Sales and Marketing Tech with Dan Gottlieb from Gartner – Pt 1 15.04.2022 26:16
We discuss revenue-tech stacks, virtual selling, data stories, tech roll-up chaos, and what it all means to those responsible for leading growth in a B2B environment. The post Unleashing the Power of Sales and Marketing Tech with Dan Gottlieb from Gartner – Pt 1 appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Sales Ruins Everything 08.04.2022 26:07
Does Sales ruin everything? We have fun at Sales’ expense while discussing what the best Sales teams do and what the bad ones don’t. The post Sales Ruins Everything appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Lightning in a Bottle-What It Feels Like When a Sales Team Fires On All Cylinders 01.04.2022 33:28
Enverus Chief Sales Officer, David Ranucci, shares what it feels like for a firm to have the organizational alignment that moves a market. Learn what your firm needs to do to empower Sales to sell like the “good ol’ days” referred to in brand histories. The post Lightning in a Bottle-What It Feels Like When a Sales Team Fires On All Cylinders appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Florian Heinrichs from Consultancy, Client Friendly, talks Marketing and Pro Services Life 17.03.2022 34:44
Flo Heinrichs, long-time R&P listener, former Accenture marketer turn consultant, joins us from Germany to talk entrepreneurship, juxtapose big and small firm life, and banter in true R&P fashion. The post Florian Heinrichs from Consultancy, Client Friendly, talks Marketing and Pro Services Life appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
The Evolution of Modern Sales Training with Shayne Jackson from Gartner 11.03.2022 31:03
Shayne Jackson from Gartner shares insights on the evolution of sales training: what it takes to get into Gartner’s new Sale Training Magic Quadrant, what to look for in a training vendor, and how to ensure an ROI on this huge investment in your people. The post The Evolution of Modern Sales Training with Shayne Jackson from Gartner appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
What We’ve Learned About Modern Selling 04.03.2022 29:21
From being human to the foibles of content marketing to unleashing culture, we take time to reflect and consolidate our learnings from our brilliant guests on our Modern Selling series. The post What We’ve Learned About Modern Selling appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
How to Create a Growth Culture Without Killing Your Firm’s Soul 25.02.2022 36:13
Learn what top firms do to reward performance, unleash their cultural strengths, and realize growth potential. David Rhoads from compensation strategy firm Three Point Consulting discusses the strategic implications that many compensation programs miss. The post How to Create a Growth Culture Without Killing Your Firm’s Soul appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Scott Brinker, Chiefmartec and HubSpot’s VP Platform Ecosystem, Riffs on the Sales and Marketing Trends of the 2020s 18.02.2022 42:21
Scott Brinker joins us to discuss the Martech trends and patterns exponentially impacting sales and marketing organizations. Learn how to competitively position your firm’s tech to exploit them and drive broader firm success. The post Scott Brinker, Chiefmartec and HubSpot’s VP Platform Ecosystem, Riffs on the Sales and Marketing Trends of the 2020s appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Your Guide to Growth & Success as a Channel Partner with Brendan Sullivan from Coastal Cloud 11.02.2022 30:30
Want to know how to be a successful channel partner? Brendan Sullivan from Coastal Cloud shares the not-so-secret secret to growth. The post Your Guide to Growth & Success as a Channel Partner with Brendan Sullivan from Coastal Cloud appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
How to Get Cross-selling Right with Charlie Green 28.01.2022 34:54
Cross-selling is the most misunderstood approach to revenue generation. Charlie Green shares why it’s so important for professional services firms to get cross-selling right—and how to do so. The post How to Get Cross-selling Right with Charlie Green appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
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