Jason Mlicki & Jeff McKay
Rattle & Pedal: B2B Marketing Podcast
Jason Mlicki, agency leader, and Jeff McKay, former global CMO, discuss growth, marketing, and life in professional services in this weekly podcast. The duo offers divergent thoughts on solving the issues practice leaders and marketers confront—or probably should—including stupid sh*t Marketing should NOT do, how Marketing ruins everything, the BS of professional services, and unleashing your Young Turks. Executive guests and industry experts join frequently to share their insights and experiences. It’s all served up with humor and a refreshing dose of reality from two guys who know how to gro...
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Jason Mlicki & Jeff McKay
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Jul 6, 2026
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Episodes
Referrals: When and How to Ask for Them 24.05.2024 44:45
If you want to actively pursue a referral strategy, when should you ask? And what should you say? Jeff and Jason dive into the mechanics of asking for referrals. The post Referrals: When and How to Ask for Them appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Referrals. What Are They? How to Position Yourself to Get More of Them. 10.05.2024 51:00
“Do good work and good things follow.” It’s the typical referral strategy of most firms. But it’s woefully incomplete. Jeff and Jason dig deep into what a referral is and how to earn more of them. The post Referrals. What Are They? How to Position Yourself to Get More of Them. appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
AI: What to Do Now 26.04.2024 55:38
Jeff and Jason synthesize the high points they learned from their interviews on AI. And, they recommend what firms should do now. The post AI: What to Do Now appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
How Generative AI is Making Productization More Urgent with Eisha Armstrong of Vecteris 12.04.2024 40:34
For years firms have pursued productization strategies to drive efficiency or create repeatable revenue. AI is making the need to productize one of survival. Learn why and how to respond. The post How Generative AI is Making Productization More Urgent with Eisha Armstrong of Vecteris appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Automation Domination. Lessons Learned from Efforts to Streamline and Scale 6Sense using AI with Brian Wise, CIO 29.03.2024 46:37
Decoding digital buying signals. Streamlining operations. Brian Wise talks about all this and more including a discussion about where AI is in the business “hype cycle.” The post Automation Domination. Lessons Learned from Efforts to Streamline and Scale 6Sense using AI with Brian Wise, CIO appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
How Professional Services Firms Are Using AI in Their Thought Leadership Programs 15.03.2024 42:24
How many firms are using AI? What platforms are they using? How are the most effective firms using AI to drive their thought leadership programs? Jason breaks down his latest thought leadership research. The post How Professional Services Firms Are Using AI in Their Thought Leadership Programs appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Using AI to Drive Personal Productivity with Greg Baugues 01.03.2024 58:00
In our first video podcast, Greg Baugues shows listeners just what you can do with tools like ChatGPT, Midjourney, and more to drive your personal productivity. The post Using AI to Drive Personal Productivity with Greg Baugues appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Assessing How Ready Your Firm and Your Clients Are For AI with Peter Buer and Courtney Baker of Knownwell 09.02.2024 39:57
Professional services firms have the most to lose and the most to gain from AI. Getting your firm and your clients ready is the first step. What does it take? The post Assessing How Ready Your Firm and Your Clients Are For AI with Peter Buer and Courtney Baker of Knownwell appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Unlocking the Real Promise of AI with David DeWolf of Knownwell 19.01.2024 45:43
Over 99% of AI deployments to date have been focused on personal productivity. David DeWolf shares how firms can unlock higher layers of operational and strategic value in their AI investments. The post Unlocking the Real Promise of AI with David DeWolf of Knownwell appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Doomsday or New Day? How IT Services Firms Are Using AI with Michelle Swan of Tercera 15.12.2023 55:25
From writing code to amping up call centers to a virtual wingman — Michelle Swan joins us to talk about how services firms are using AI to drive value internally and with clients. The post Doomsday or New Day? How IT Services Firms Are Using AI with Michelle Swan of Tercera appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Generative AI: How Firms Are Using it Today and How They’ll Use it Tomorrow 08.12.2023 38:51
Jeff and Jason kick off a new series exploring current and future uses of generative AI in professional services. What are the opportunities and risks of its adoption? The post Generative AI: How Firms Are Using it Today and How They’ll Use it Tomorrow appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Unsnoozing the Inbox: Tips on Email Marketing with Ian Brodie 27.11.2023 55:25
The best way to build relationships at scale is with email marketing. Acclaimed email expert, Ian Brodie, joins Jeff and Jason to share his thoughts on how to cut through the noise and “unsnooze your prospects’ inbox.” The post Unsnoozing the Inbox: Tips on Email Marketing with Ian Brodie appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
No Shortcuts to Growth 10.11.2023 41:43
When you’re missing your revenue targets it’s tempting to chase shortcuts — quick fixes like an aggressive cold email outreach program. Yet, usually, success in the short term requires taking the long view. The post No Shortcuts to Growth appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
The Rainmaker Genome Project with Matt Dixon and Rory Channer 23.10.2023 59:40
DCM Insights founding partners, Matt Dixon and Rory Channer, share the findings of their latest research on what the top pro services partners do differently to drive business development success. The post The Rainmaker Genome Project with Matt Dixon and Rory Channer appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Behind the Headlines-AI’s Impact on Pro Service Marketing 29.09.2023 24:52
From automating interactions at the drive-thru to writing website content, AI is taking the world by storm. In this episode, Jason and Jeff explore the strategic marketing implications of the latest news on generative AI. The post Behind the Headlines-AI’s Impact on Pro Service Marketing appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Revisiting the BS of PS: Are Things Getting Better? Or Worse? 13.09.2023 50:01
There’s an inherent dysfunction that keeps firms from reaching their full growth potential. Jason and Jeff revisit one of the podcast’s earliest episodes to discuss what’s changed. And, what’s stayed the same. The post Revisiting the BS of PS: Are Things Getting Better? Or Worse? appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
The Rebranding of Twitter to X. Brilliant Move or Colossal Mistake? 28.08.2023 23:57
The marketing world is all “atwitter” about X. Was this rebrand a brilliant move? Or a colossal mistake? What can professional service firm leaders and marketers learn from the strategy? The post The Rebranding of Twitter to X. Brilliant Move or Colossal Mistake? appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
The Cobbler’s Children Have No Shoes 11.08.2023 25:14
Some strategy firms lack a sound business strategy. Some HR consulting firms lack effective people discipline. Why do firms struggle to apply their expertise to their own businesses? The post The Cobbler’s Children Have No Shoes appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Building a Differentiated Client Experience 24.07.2023 32:15
Jeff and Jason break down what it takes to build a truly unique professional services firm client experience and offer examples of firms leading the pack. The post Building a Differentiated Client Experience appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Thought Leadership Development: The Pros and Cons of 3 Proven Models 07.07.2023 33:04
Insourced, outsourced, and co-sourced. Jason and Jeff explore the “ins” and “outs” of the prevailing ways to develop thought leadership. The post Thought Leadership Development: The Pros and Cons of 3 Proven Models appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
12 Reasons Your Marketing Strategy is Failing 16.06.2023 33:07
From culture to rewards to the “partners’ boat fund,” Jeff and Jason explore all the reasons firms’ marketing strategies fail. The post 12 Reasons Your Marketing Strategy is Failing appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Thought Leadership in 5 Steps 02.06.2023 37:46
Jason breaks down how to develop a thought leadership strategy that defines the business issues your firm should own now and for the foreseeable future. And, he does it all in just five steps. The post Thought Leadership in 5 Steps appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Behind the Headlines: PWC’s $1B Investment in AI, China’s Consulting “Crackdown”, and Marketing Lessons from Hyundai 26.05.2023 37:51
We share professional services marketing lessons learned from Hyundai’s brand ascent, discuss marketing opportunities related to PWC’s large investment in AI, and lament China’s “crackdown” on consulting firms. The post Behind the Headlines: PWC’s $1B Investment in AI, China’s Consulting “Crackdown”, and Marketing Lessons from Hyundai appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Brand Breakdown – Wizeline 12.05.2023 40:20
We break down the brand of one of the world’s fastest-growing global technology services providers, Wizeline. Gain insight into the impact of a clear go-to-market strategy and relate to some challenges in solution architecture. The post Brand Breakdown – Wizeline appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
Building a Go-To-Market Strategy in 5 Steps 05.05.2023 40:25
Jeff breaks down how to get your firm showing up as its best self through a clear go-to-market strategy in five clear, but not always easy, steps. The post Building a Go-To-Market Strategy in 5 Steps appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .
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