Jon Bryant & Michael Murray
Price. Sell. Paint.
Have you ever had questions about how to price, sell, or produce paint jobs profitably? Jon Bryant & Michael Murray use their combined 30+ years of experience in the painting industry to dig deep into finding the tools, tactics, and tricks to help you succeed. Sometimes they bring on industry leaders and experts to help break it down.
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Jun 25, 2026
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Episodes
The Client Experience That Wins More Painting Jobs // Jaclyn Rogers 25.06.2026 51:42
What makes homeowners choose one contractor over another? In this episode of Price. Sell. Paint., Jon and Michael sit down with Jaclyn Rogers from AI Painting Plus to talk about the client experience that turns estimates into booked jobs. From building trust and creating smoother sales conversations to simplifying estimates and making customers feel confident in their decision, this episode breaks...
Hiring Sales Reps, Higher Margins & Scaling a Painting Business // Justin Georgopoulos 11.06.2026 50:44
What if the problem isn’t your close rate… it’s your process? In this episode of Price. Sell. Paint., Jon Bryant and Michael Murray sit down with Justin Georgopoulos, Founder of High Five Painting and Trade Launch, to break down how his team built a high-performing sales system, from hiring and training estimators to creating accountability, improving close rates, and pricing confidently. They get...
What to Do During an In-Home Painting Estimate 27.05.2026 1:00:24
In this episode of Price. Sell. Paint., Jon and Michael break down exactly what happens during an in-home painting estimate, from the initial walkthrough to gathering scope, building trust, handling pricing conversations, and creating a consultative sales experience that actually wins jobs. They cover: How to ask better questions What homeowners actually want during estimates Why consultative sell...
How to Sell High-End Painting Projects Without Competing on Price // Juan Vasquez 13.05.2026 57:58
In this episode of the Price. Sell. Paint. podcast, Juan Vasquez, owner of Illusions Inc. in Monterey, California, to talks about building a premium painting business, working on luxury homes, and creating long-term customer relationships that drive repeat revenue. Juan shares how he transitioned from being “a painter with a job” to building a true business focused on high-end finishes, repeat cli...
The Real Reason You’re Not Winning Painting Jobs 29.04.2026 45:45
Most painting contractors lose jobs before the estimate even begins. In this episode of Price. Sell. Paint., Jon and Michael break down how to start estimate appointments the right way, from the first call to showing up at the door. If you’re struggling to close painting estimates, this episode will show you how to build trust early, set the right expectations, and win more of the jobs you’re alre...
The Sales System That Separates $1M vs $10M Contractors // Dave Scaturro 16.04.2026 57:11
Most painting contractors think sales is about pricing or skill but the real difference comes down to systems, follow-up, and relationships. In this episode, Dave Scaturro from Alpine Painting breaks down how they scaled into a multi-division business, what separates top sales reps from average ones, and the exact habits that drive consistent growth. If you’re trying to close more jobs, build a st...
What to Do When a Customer Says No (Sales Tips for Painting Contractors) 02.04.2026 49:00
In this episode of Price. Sell. Paint., Jon and Michael break down how painting contractors and sales reps should handle rejection, price objections, and ghosting during the estimating process. They walk through real scenarios from the field, including what to say when a homeowner rejects your painting estimate in person, over text, by email, or stops responding altogether. You’ll learn how to: Ha...
How to Build a High-Performing Sales Team in a Painting Business // Gavin Hepp 18.03.2026 48:53
In this episode of the Price. Sell. Paint. podcast, Michael Murray and Jon Bryant sit down with Gavin Hepp of Webfoot Home Improvements and Nolan Consulting Group to talk about what it really takes to build a strong sales team in the painting industry. They break down how Gavin helped grow Webfoot into a multi-million dollar business, how to know if you’ve hired the right sales rep, what KPIs actu...
How High-End Painting Contractors Sell Value (Not Paint) // Zach Kenney 04.03.2026 56:11
High-end clients do not pay for paint. They pay for predictability, trust, and outcomes. Zach Kenney breaks down the shift from scarcity pricing to premium positioning, how to present options, and how to run an estimate conversation that actually closes. This podcast is powered by PaintScout — The Ultimate Sales & Estimating Software for Painting Contractors. Learn more at https://www.paintsco...
Stop Pricing Yourself Out of Business // Chris Moore 12.02.2026 50:38
Chris Moore (Elite Business Advisors) joins Jon and Michael to break down why most painting businesses don’t fail because of production, they fail because of out-of-business pricing. They talk simple ways to sanity-check your hourly rate, how to raise prices without panicking (or killing your close rate), and why pricing + marketing are inseparable if you want consistent work and real margins. The...
What Should Sales Reps Do Outside of Selling? 28.01.2026 44:29
What should a painting sales rep be doing outside of selling the job? Jon and Michael break down where sales responsibilities should start and stop: Google reviews, managing projects, handling complaints, collecting deposits, invoicing, and follow-ups. They also dig into why some industries use a one-call close model, and why painting companies need clearer handoffs to scale without burning out th...
Ready to Win the Job? What to Bring to Every Paint Estimate 08.01.2026 51:43
Most painting contractors lose (or win) the job long before the customer ever sees the price. In this episode of Price. Sell. Paint., Jon and Michael break down exactly what you should bring with you to every on-site estimate if you want to stand out and close more work. They talk through the full sales kit: how you show up (vehicles, uniforms, first impression), why doing quotes on an iPad with s...
The 2026 Kickoff Playbook (Every Painting Contractor Needs This) 11.12.2025 27:48
Every contractor hits the December wall. But instead of scrambling for last-minute leads, Jon and Michael walk through a smarter strategy: reset, reconnect, and prepare. This episode covers: what sales reps should (and shouldn’t) do right now, how to build deeper relationships that fuel next year’s pipeline, and how to plan your goals so January starts fast instead of frantic. If you're serio...
Why Square-Foot Pricing Fails (and What to Use Instead) 27.11.2025 48:01
Pricing painting projects shouldn’t feel like guesswork. In this episode of Price. Sell. Paint. Michael Murray and Jon Bryant break down one of the biggest challenges in the industry: pricing jobs accurately and explaining those numbers clearly to crews and subcontractors. Fresh off the Nolan Grand Summit, they dig into why production rates outperform square-foot guessing, how to communicate time...
Email, Text, or Call? How Painting Sales Reps Should Talk to Customers 19.11.2025 1:00:54
In this episode of the Price. Sell. Paint., podcast, Michael Murray and Jon Bryant break down one of the most underrated parts of sales in a painting business: how you communicate. If you’ve ever had a lead ghost you, a customer misunderstand a message, or a team member hide behind email instead of picking up the phone, this episode is for you. Perfect for painting contractors, sales reps, and own...
Painting Businesses + AI: What Actually Moves the Needle 29.10.2025 48:52
AI is everywhere, but what’s actually useful for a painting business? Jon and Michael break down the tools that move the needle today: smarter route planning to cut windshield time, instant before-and-after renders that help close on the spot, CompanyCam AI walkthroughs for cleaner handoffs, and custom GPTs that coach reps and streamline hiring. They dig into using AI to standardize pricing and fo...
Beige Is Back: Sherwin-Williams’ Color Expert on Paint Colors, Trends & Winning Jobs // Sue Wadden 15.10.2025 41:47
Sherwin-Williams’ Sue Wadden (Director of Color Marketing, 25+ years) joins Jon to break down the real driver of most paint jobs—COLOR—and how pros can use it to win more work. They cover the latest trends, how to guide hesitant homeowners, and the exact tools you can hand clients before you even step on site. What you’ll learn - How to confidently lead the color conversation (and stop avoiding it...
What the Heck Is a CRM? 02.10.2025 37:47
CRMs get thrown around as the “Swiss Army knife” of software but what does a CRM actually mean for painting contractors? In this episode of Price. Sell. Paint. , Jon Bryant and Michael Murray break down: What a CRM is (and isn’t) How painting contractors can use a CRM to track leads, follow-ups, and sales Why generic CRMs fail the painting industry The story behind the launch of PaintScout CRM, bu...
Hiring & Coaching Painting Sales Reps // Colin Nolan 18.09.2025 1:02:33
Jon and Michael sit down with Colin Nolan of Nolan Consulting Group to unpack how painting companies can hire, coach, and keep sales reps who actually close. We cover what to look for in candidates (trophies, mindset, DISC profiles), how to find real customer pain without being pushy, the KPIs that reveal performance (win rate, pricing discipline, pipeline hygiene), and why “always be looking” bea...
How Painting Sales Reps Can Sell When the Exterior Season Is Fully Booked 04.09.2025 25:25
In this episode of Price. Sell. Paint. , Michael Murray and Jon Bryant dive into one of the toughest challenges for painting sales reps: what to do when your exterior season is already packed. Learn how to shift your mindset, position scheduling as a strength, and use tactics like pre-booking, strategic pricing, and customer incentives to keep closing deals. Whether you’re up against weather deadl...
Scaling a Painting Business to $10M // Matt Kuyper 21.08.2025 45:25
In this episode of Price Sell Paint, Matt Kuyper, co-owner and founder of Harpeth Painting, reveals how he scaled the company to more than $10 million in annual revenue in just six years. Matt shares his approach to balancing residential and commercial projects, building strong contractor relationships, and navigating long sales cycles. He also opens up about finding reliable subcontractors and th...
The Smarter Way to Sell Painting Jobs 07.08.2025 44:06
In this episode of Price. Sell. Paint. , Jon Bryant from PaintScout breaks down how contractors are transforming their sales process, from quoting faster and smarter to knowing exactly when to follow up. Whether you're running solo or managing a full sales team, learn how to stop leaving money on the table and start using data to close more deals with confidence. If you’ve ever second-guessed...
Managing Unhappy Customers in Your Painting Business 23.07.2025 47:29
In this episode of Price. Sell. Paint., Jon and Michael break down real-world strategies for dealing with unhappy customers in the painting business. From staying calm under pressure to knowing when a refund can save the relationship, they share stories, mindset tips, and tactical advice for turning tense situations into professional wins. Whether you're a sales rep or a business owner, you&a...
Why Successful Painting Contractors Start Selling Winter Early 09.07.2025 45:12
In this episode of Price. Sell. Paint., Jon and Michael tackle a challenge every painting contractor in colder climates faces, how to stay busy in the dead of winter. They break down the strategy of selling interior and cabinet jobs during the summer with a smart discounting system that fills January and February’s calendar before Thanksgiving. Whether you're a sales rep or a business owner,...
Mastering the Shift from Residential to Commercial // Chris Elliott 26.06.2025 30:37
In this episode of the Price Sell Paint podcast, Jon and Michael are joined by industry leader and PCA board member Chris Elliott. From Army Ranger to painting company CEO, Chris shares how he built a successful residential repaint division before scaling into commercial work and why running both requires different teams, different strategies, and a whole lot of intentionality. They dig into sales...
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