Allie Williams, Jordan Thorne

Pretty sure, never clueless

Society EN ↓ 31 episodes

Meet Allie and Jordan, your transatlantic BFFs, who traded sunny California for the vibrant streets of Madrid and London. Tune in weekly for an intimate glimpse into the rollercoaster ride that is their 30-something lives. Get ready for candid chats and hilarious stories that dive deep into the chaos of adulthood abroad. Everything from tales of culture shock to navigating the intricate dance of modern friendships, they're spilling all the tea on the ups-and-downs of growing up and wanting to take on the world. Equal parts relatable and entertaining, subscribe now to tune in every Wednesday. T...

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Allie Williams, Jordan Thorne

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Society

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Latest episode

Jul 10, 2025

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Episodes

S2 Ep. 5 - Chaos & Revolution 10.07.2025

In the latest episode of Pretty sure, Never clueless, Jordan kicks things off with a quick catch-up about her birthday trip to Cornwall—reflecting on the new headspace she’s in and how being single has played a big part in that. Allie jumps in to share her latest manifestation wins and what they’re teaching her about trust and alignment. The duo then dive headfirst into “Chaos & Revolution,” a...

S2 Ep. 4 - Exploring creativity 28.04.2025

In this episode, Jordan and Allie dive into the messy, magical world of creativity! Jordan shares how Rick Rubin’s approach—embracing imperfection and letting creativity flow—has been shaping the way she thinks about making anything lately. (Spoiler: your best work might come from your least inspired moment.) They dig into the struggles every creative faces: naysayers, self-doubt, burnout, deadlin...

S2 Ep. 3 - Food and everything in between 03.04.2025

Join Allie and Jordan as they get wrapped up in a fun conversation about one of their favorite mutual loves—food! In this episode, they explore the origins of their palates, reflecting on the childhood experiences, cultural influences, and family traditions that have shaped their adult tastes. From Allie’s "off-brand" snack stories to Jordan’s memories of her Italian grandmother’s legendary dishes...

S2 Ep.2 - The layers of authenticity 21.03.2025

Back with another thought-provoking dive, Allie and Jordan unpack the layered journey of finding your authentic voice — both literally and metaphorically. Ever wondered if you're truly being yourself or just playing a role depending on who's around? Same. Jordan kicks things off by sharing her recent self-diagnosed discovery that she may be dealing with PMDD (premenstrual dysphoric disorder). They...

S2 Ep. 1 - Journey to change 07.03.2025

Back with a fresh format and a new season, Allie and Jordan dive into the messy, exciting, and sometimes exhausting journey of personal growth. They explore what it really means to find happiness in the process, how to define your North Star , and whether the endless pursuit of self-improvement is wearing us all out. They also get real about the fear of change—why it’s so hard, how to push through...

Ep. 25 - Milestones, Finales & New beginnings 30.01.2025

Join Allie and Jordan on Pretty sure, Never clueless for their 25th episode—a huge milestone! They're celebrating a year and a half of podcasting by reflecting on their most impactful life lessons. This special anniversary episode also teases Season 2, with Allie and Jordan sharing exciting new developments and a fresh approach to the show's evolution. With plenty of life updates, reflections, and...

Ep. 24 - Book tropes, Breakup tips & Love island irks 23.01.2025

Allie and Jordan are back with a jam-packed episode--kicking things off with some chat about the Paris Olympics before diving into a game where Jordan challenges Allie to guess the origins of sayings we use every day—spoiler: Allie loses! Allie opens up a discussion about book tropes, with both hosts sharing the storylines that keep them hooked and the ones they can't stand. Jordan gets personal,...

Ep. 23 - Summer Shenanigans, Defying Age & Rom-com Revivals 28.11.2024

Back after a short summer hiatus, Allie and Jordan bring the fun and spontaneity of summer straight to your earbuds! In this episode, they reminisce about spontaneous nights out and a relaxing Palm Springs getaway. From icebreaker questions about reading your life story to the fascinating science behind telomeres and aging, the duo explores how stress and aging affect our bodies. Jordan shares her...

Ep. 22 - Meatball Musings, Boundaries & Intergenerational relationships 19.07.2024

In this episode, the duo shares their hot takes on the movies "Challengers" and "The Idea of You," sparking a lively debate about age gaps and the portrayal of relationships in media, later discussing a missed 2000's food fad, meatballs. Jordan shares personal insights from a journaling exercise that led to a shocking revelation about her boundary issues, leading them to further explore the comple...

Ep. 21 - Screen breaks, 7 types of rest & 7 tips to find your dream job 02.06.2024

After a few weeks' hiatus, Jordan and Allie return with tales from their recent trip to Ibiza and updates on the intriguing topics circulating on social media. They cover the 'second screen' phenomenon in film and TV production and ponder why we seem culturally stuck in a 30-year trend loop when it comes to fashion. Allie sparks a discussion on the benefits of phone-free holidays, while they enthu...

Ep. 20 - Glimmers, Finding your style & High low context cultures 03.05.2024

Your favorite duo opens up the episode sharing their top "glimmers" -- a concept that reflects on the tiny moments that spark joy in our lives. Allie talks us through the step-by-step style editing technique first brought about by stylist Allison Bornstein. Later she gives us a 3-word tool to help identify our personal style aspirations. Jordan shares a communication style concept called 'High and...

Ep. 19 - "Chill girls" are out, RoomRaiders, & The value in female friendships 19.04.2024

In this episode, Jordan and Allie return with quick-fire questions revealing more about themselves. Exploring the evolution of their perspectives now in their 30s, they discuss things they once thought mattered, like thinking being a night owl was a flex, to relinquishing societal expectations and FOMO. The duo reflects on the value of quality over quantity, bidding adieu to the “Chill girl” and r...

Bonus Ep. Cliche Confessions: Embracing the Cheese 29.03.2024

In the first bonus episode of the series, Jordan and Allie confess their newfound appreciation for cliches, sharing the ones they've finally come to embrace. From cheesy sayings to sobering truths, they revel in the hilarious reality behind age-old phrases like "everything happens for a reason", "you are what you eat", and "water seeks its own level." They reflect and discuss the beauty of finding...

Ep. 18 - Sunk cost fallacy, Déjà rêvé & Untranslatable words 26.03.2024

In the latest episode of Pretty sure, never clueless, Jordan and Allie kick things off with a rapid-fire round of their latest obsessions before diving into a pop-culture moment as Jordan gives an opinionated take on the latest JLO music film "This is Me Now.” Allie introduces the concept of sunk cost fallacy and its relevance to a previous discussion on the difficulty of walking away from a relat...

Ep. 17 - Pop culture musings, Love lessons, & Food frenzies 08.03.2024

In this week's episode of Pretty sure, never clueless, Jordan and Allie dive into recent pop culture moments, from Usher's electrifying Superbowl performance to Ben Affleck's hilarious Dunkin commercial, sparking memories of how he was Jordan's official first kiss. As they navigate the twists and turns of love, the duo explores the significance of leading with love and ponders whether the energy o...

Ep. 16 - The power of now, Effort audits & Second adolescence 02.03.2024

In this week's episode of Pretty sure, never clueless, Jordan and Allie reunite after their holiday home together in sunny California for a deep dive into some of life's big questions. Jordan kickstarts the conversation with insights from Eckhart Tolle's "The Power of Now," exploring the idea of finding acceptance through focusing on the present moment. Meanwhile, Allie brings up attachment styles...

Ep. 15 - The breakup story, Interdependency vs. Co-dependency & The unofficial love languages 22.02.2024

In this emotional rollercoaster of an episode, Jordan bares her soul, recounting the raw and painful journey of her recent heartbreak.  With vulnerability and honesty, she shares her reflections on both the loss of a person and with that, a version of ourselves that comes with the ending of a relationship. She sheds light on the difference between co-dependency and the healthier alternative o...

Ep. 14 - Mean girls, Rosy retrospection & Dream therapy 15.02.2024

This week on “Pretty Sure, Never Clueless”, Jordan and Allie dish out their feelings about Mean Girls' unexpected musical makeover in its upcoming sequel. Following up on a previous episode, Allie turns detective when she deep-researches a concept called cognitive bias to pinpoint why we always feel nostalgic for the past—discovering a theory called rosy retrospection. Later things get a little tr...

Ep. 13 - Friendship cycles, Cultural identity & Modern womanhood 09.02.2024

In this thought-provoking episode, Jordan and Allie delve into the complexities of modern womanhood, exploring themes of love, friendship, and cultural identity. As they explore the intricacies of friendship cycles, Jordan and Allie share insights into how evolving friendships can impact individual journeys, sometimes before one feels fully prepared. Reflecting on their first experiences with hear...

Ep. 12 - Culture shocks, British slang & Gratitude abroad 01.02.2024

This week, American transplants Jordan and Allie offer their unique perspectives as they dive into the culture shocks of living in Europe. From missing familiar foods to the wonders of al fresco dining, they explore the highs and lows of life abroad. They discuss differences in personal space and the top transportation systems, late-night dinners, annoying light switches, and America’s ill-fitting...

Ep. 11 - Running from yourself, Collectors & Confession corner 18.01.2024

In their latest episode, Jordan and Allie dream big about the three jobs they'd hire for if they hit the proverbial jackpot. Swiftie’s alert—Jordan gives her controversial opinions on one of the most talked about women of the year. Allie shares her fascination with collectors brought on by a yellow crayon obsession, sparking a lively discussion on their own quirky collections. Jordan delves into t...

Ep. 10 - Slang showdowns, Life transitions & Valuing the journey 20.12.2023

In their milestone tenth episode, Jordan and Allie reminisce about their favorite podcast moments. Calling all Swifties, Allie turns sleuth delving into Taylor Swift's re-recorded albums and marveling at her musical vulnerability, while Jordan teases a future episode on reading old diary entries. Allie brings back the iconic slang of the '90s and early 2000s, and Jordan quizzes her on the ever-evo...

Ep. 9 - Ghost friends, Shifting parental dynamics & Baby haters 08.12.2023

This week, Allie and Jordan explore diverse topics, ranging from the randomness of US censorship to exciting updates on their podcast branding journey. In an unexpected twist, a friendly ghost makes an appearance on the podcast. Allie introduces a thought-provoking study on the disappearance of color in our world, prompting a deeper analysis of societal and cultural trends. Meanwhile, Jordan share...

Ep. 8 - Ballsack avocados, Shedding your past & Becoming our parents 29.11.2023

In this lively episode, Allie shares her gratitude for the fluidity of changing friendships. Meanwhile, Jordan tells the hilarious story of the "ballsack avocados," sparking a playful exploration into the deterioration in the quality of the foods we eat—including surprising tips from a heart doctor about our gut health. As they navigate the nostalgic waters of the 2000s, they discuss their thought...

Ep. 7 - 4 day workweek, 9/11 & Situational adrenaline junkies 09.11.2023

In this episode, Allie and Jordan tackle a range of topics, from advocating for a four-day workweek to creating positive mornings with the ‘Evening Shift’ concept. The duo dives into the value of friendships with people of differing beliefs, touching on some of the nuances that create polarisations in our current climate. With their recording date landing on September 11th, they take a moment to r...

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