David Fearon and Peter Vaill
Practice? Podcast
“Theory and practice” is a common phrase. We've seen a lot of writing on theory, but what about that other word? Peter calls it "the dark matter of the social sciences" - Practice. It applies to pencil-pushing, educating, heart surgery, sailing, golfing, and anything you can do with purpose. Peter and Dave take you into a world of thought that couples work and play, purpose and routine, life and legacy. In a world of white-water, On Practice is the raft.
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David Fearon and Peter Vaill
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Latest episode
Jun 9, 2026
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Episodes
Episode 265: Episode 260 - Softball then, now, and forever (Hannah Cooper) 22.04.2024 31:12
Dave noticed that his former student Hannah Cooper , now a business analyst, was still the softball enthusiast he knew nearly ten years ago. Her practice evolved from player to coach to founder/trainer of Cooper Clinics . Hannah's vision is that girls and young women will develop in spirit, mind, and body with a sport they can play well into adulthood.
Episode 264: Episode 259 - He Studies the Sound of Silence (Freek Sanders) 14.04.2024 52:14
Freek Sanders , from the Netherlands, is an action researcher, poet, and certified executive coach, among other things. Dave finds his current focus on the role of silence in leadership discourse interesting. However, this episode is not 30 minutes of silence. Rather, it suggests that we could all benefit from more moments of peaceful quiet.
Episode 263: Episode 258 - He Helps Us See the Unseen (Leader) - Martin Gutmann 06.04.2024 52:50
Dave was attracted to the evocative title of Historian/Business Professor Martin Gutmann's new book - The Unseen Leader . This led to a rousing conversation and the promise to keep on learning with each other. Seeing is believing in the depth of leadership.
Episode 262: Episode 257 - His Practice Goes to the (Aikido) Mat (Mark Bradford) 30.03.2024 37:22
Dave always looks for thinkers who can contribute a different perspective to leading and developing our leadership and collaborative design practices. Dave had to reach all the way out from Connecticut to New Zealand, but he found BeWeDo founder, Aikido -inspired Mark Bradford fits this bill and so much more.
Episode 261: Episode 256 - Information Happens as We Practice (Dave, Jr & Dad) 23.03.2024 1:06:49
Son Dave Fearon continues informing me about the hidden 'goings on' as we humans create and use information in conversation, laying out the path for practice. The typed letters are not information until you read and give them meaning.
Episode 260: Episode 255 - He Brings Out the Best (yet) in Us (Tenneson Woolf) 17.03.2024 38:30
Poet, coach, group process facilitator, and refreshingly kind person, Tenneson Woolf and Dave 'speak' in close harmony (singing is out of the question for Dave). They share ways, each in his way, gauges success as moments when guiding people releases untapped potential to solve and to soar.
Episode 259: Episode 254 - Teaching Becomes Her and Her College (Kathy Lund Dean) 10.03.2024 45:00
Dave and Kathy Lund Dean were recognized in subsequent years with the Management & Organizational Behavior Teaching Society's David L. Bradford Award for a lifetime of leadership focusing on teaching and learning. Years of creative accomplishments 'become' the person as a way of being. Kathy's unique role as The Board of Trustees Distinguished Chair in Leadership and Ethics is becoming to Gust...
Episode 258: Episode 253 - His Practice Earns Him Peanuts (Cornelius Uliano) 02.03.2024 41:13
Cornelius (Niel) Uliano tells Dave he was inspired to become a filmmaker in the eighth grade. And so he has! He left Newington, Connecticut, to attend film school four years later. Today, he is the Co-producer and writer of The Peanuts Movie . And, on to other Peanuts movies for Apple+... Well, listen, and Niel will tell his story. And to think he grew up two miles from Dave's campus and was the b...
Episode 257: Episode 252 - She Leads to Funding Better Lives (Robin Sharp) 24.02.2024 39:25
Easterseals campaigns and inter-organizational collaborations happen out of the goodness of people's hearts. President & CEO of Easterseals Capital Region & Eastern Connecticut, inc. Robin Sharp leads with a deep appreciation for volunteered resources whose disabled beneficiaries have a better quality of life.
Episode 256: Episode 251 - Once Upon Many Times - a Storied Practice (David Hutchens) 17.02.2024 41:07
I'll tell you a story about the sincerely practiced storyteller in this episode. David Hutchens taps into our humanity and finds the gold in real and true stories (or delightful fiction). Our stories. Our organisations' stories. Our town's stories. And he/we will live happily ever after.
Episode 255: Episode 250 - Still Exploring for New Ways for Developing Leadership Practice (Gary Lloyd) 10.02.2024 37:50
Leading is a skillful practice, and the founder of the Leadership Skills Lab , Gary Lloyd , never lets up on the quest for better ways. Dave realizes he has fallen behind his contemporary Gary, who is urging him to put AI (artificial intelligence) to this purpose. Well, the learning never ceases if you are majorly curious.
Episode 254: Episode 249 - Dave and Dad Talk About Time and Space - Always Real as Practice Contexts. 04.02.2024 59:38
We continue our series of 'Dave & Dad" learning conversations, looking closely for what happens in moments , engaging all our senses, and compelling our full consciousness. Our practices grow us forward, always landing us in a new time and place (even if the space seems to be the same as before, yet connected anew).
Episode 253: Episode 248 - Talking about Today's Distressing Context for Practice (Lizy Freudmann & Tom Casey) 28.01.2024 45:00
Our intentional practices have landed us amid a socio-political context of pessimism, anger, and even rage. Dave, Lizy , and Tom talk over such findings in a recent Discussion Partners Collaborative leadership sentiment survey. We still focus and do what we can to make things better.
Episode 252: Episode 247 - Exemplary Leading - Her Research. Her Practice (Kelly Gesmundo Clarke) 20.01.2024 40:00
A Bowling Green State University Doctorate in Organization Development & Change was just conferred upon this seasoned leader whose research focuses on exemplary leaders in highly disruptive settings (COVID). Dr. Kelly Gesmundo Clarke goes now where uncertainty prevails to encourage exemplary leadership practice. "You can find Dr. Gesmundo Clarke here: Exemplary Leadership Institute
Episode 251: Episode 246 - Yes, Even Grieving Can Be a Practice (Kathryn Kaplan) 12.01.2024 43:38
Kathryn Kaplan is now a professional grief counselor. For most of her career, she was an Organization Development consultant. This is the fifth episode with Kathryn, each marking a transformational moment in her practice life. Her latest book, Dying With His Eyes Wide Open , prompts this reunion of two former Peter Vaill students. Dave ventures that we can choose to develop grieving losses as a pr...
Episode 250: Episode 245 - She brings Development to Each Engagement (Lisa Thomas) 07.01.2024 38:56
Dave discovers a natural teaching quality in his guest Organizational Development professional, Dr. Lisa Thomas . Mutual development happens in moments when Lisa is coaching, facilitating, or instructing. Her earnest desire for the betterment of others is palpable. You will experience it in this conversation.
Episode 249: Episode 244 - She Accounts for Her Practice (Kelly Harper) 01.01.2024 31:06
Dave's former student, Kelly Harper, CPA , manages her fortunate way of life as an accountant who constantly leads and learns. After doing so at several global corporations, Kelly brings her team's talents to corporate customers of Deloitte .
Episode 248: Episode 243 - How the Practice of Talk Really Works (Dave Fearon, Jr and his Dad) 17.12.2023 1:05:20
Dave Fearon, Jr . summarizes the progression of his Social Enaction thoughts across the 18 episodes of conversation with his co-inquiring father (me). This brings us to Conversational Analysis revealing the practice that holds us humans together (or apart). Talking.
Episode 247: Episode 242 - Her Practice is Changing Change for the Better (Carla McKnight) 09.12.2023 46:40
Vice-President of Organization Development & HR Carla McKnight's conversation with Dave gets him 'all fired up' for the community college movement as Carla talks about her constantly changing Valencia College , keeping up with the needs of the Central Florida communities. Changing again? Call Carla.
Episode 246: Episde 241 - Still Digging for the Natural Moments of Leadership (Don Dunoon) 02.12.2023 50:51
Dave reaches across continents to see what fellow restless thinker Don Dunoon , Director of New Futures, has found since Episode 124 in August 2021. Plenty. He's still digging in the gold mine of natural conversation. He shares leadership 'finds' like the importance of safety.
Episode 245: Episode 240 - Diving into Complexity She Comes Up Smiling (Nicole Mata) 25.11.2023 30:08
Dave loves to showcase former Management students who, then and now, are avid learners. Nicole, always up for change, moves into a new practicing estimating for jet engine transactions. "It's different every day".
Episode 244: Episode 239 - The Effect of His Digital Artistry is Special (Mike Zaman) 18.11.2023 34:45
Digital artist and special effects practitioner, Realtime Supervisor at the visual effect company Framestore , Mike Zaman introduces Dave to the vast, fast, and broadly cast world of digitally rendered art.
Episode 243: Episode 238 - He Advises and Learns in the Thick of It (Daryl Conner) 11.11.2023 45:30
Dave meets Daryl Conner , a change consultant who, for many decades, has performed at the epicenter of organizational strategic decision-making, learning with his clients at the point of change execution. While his global firm serves enterprises across the spectrum, Daryl advises international NGOs addressing "changes that matter."
Episode 242: Episode 237 - He Led Discovery of Leadership Gems in Childrend's Books (Tom Casey) 05.11.2023 41:20
Tom Casey 's Discussion Partner Collaborative shifted its leadership research practice to an unusual but elemental source of influence - ideas shaped by reading classic children's books. He and Dave sift through the gems of possibilities.
Episode 241: Episode 236 - Her Practice is Sweet (Amanda Pizzoferrato) 27.10.2023 48:16
Right now, Amanda Pizzoferrato is a Cookie Marketer. No, she's not a Girl Scout. Her's is the innovative Corso Cookie brand. She loves the daily learning of launching a direct sales online marketing practice. It's not unlike her previous venture, 'cooking up' a popular sandwich cafe - the Sleepy Rooster. And yes, she's another of Dave's former students.
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