Carinn & Kate
Pop Fiction Women
In Pop Fiction Women we deep-dive into the complicated women of books, movies and TV shows, along with the women that bring them to life behind the scenes. Think Fleabag and Phoebe Waller Bridge, Normal People and Sally Rooney, and so much more. In each episode you can expect us to: * Break down the protagonist as we ask what makes her complicated? * Identify the best scenes, which can mean sweetest, funniest, or most badass. Anything we love. * Recount the cringiest scenes. The ones that make you squirm. Sometimes it’s self-sabotage, sometimes it’s growth, but it’s always part of the process...
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Carinn & Kate
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Feb 10, 2026
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Episodes
'Fleabag' Season Two & Phoebe Waller-Bridge 12.02.2020 1:35:46
Fleabag Season Two & Phoebe Waller-Bridge: complicated in love **Complicated Woman: Fleabag. Our most complicated woman is back and we're unpacking the differences in Fleabag between the two seasons. Carinn and Kate surprisingly disagree on which version of Fleabag was closest to irredeemable. (01:59) and more at (48:56) **We check on Fleabag's relationship growth from season one. Godmother (08:24...
Quick Cap #4: The Affair's Real Life Dual Narratives, Christina Tosi and PFW's first live event! 29.01.2020 37:50
Quick Cap #4: The Affair's Real Life Dual Narratives, Christina Tosi and PFW's first live event! The theme of this episode is “adaptation”. We’re talking about a number of news items involving novels being adapted for the big and small screen and how we personally adapted to do our first Pop Fiction Women live event (at :28) The Affair. We discuss the explosive story around conflicting accounts fr...
'Always Be My Maybe' & Ali Wong 22.01.2020 1:00:20
Always Be My Maybe & Ali Wong: complicated with role reversals **Pick Me!: We provide a refresher on the criteria we use to pick our media: 1) must feature a complicated woman; 2) has to be written by or directed by a woman (this movie is a rare gem that passes on both) and apparently an unofficial third category that it has to be a version of When Harry Met Sally! (01:30) **Complicated Woman Rati...
'Daisy Jones and the Six' & Taylor Jenkins Reid 15.01.2020 1:04:57
Daisy Jones and The Six by Taylor Jenkins Reid: Women Who Rock **Our Complicated Woman. Daisy Jones is certainly nobody’s muse, and while she hits all the marks of a complicated woman, we can’t always feel her conflict as much as we would like. Do we really know Daisy or is it that she doesn’t even know herself? Or is it a limitation of the unique oral history, transcript-style structure? (Starts...
Quick Cap #3: The Decade In Female Rage, Lack of Women Directors, The Affair Ends With Love and Marriage 08.01.2020 45:52
Quick Cap #3: Coming in HOT In this episode we shake it up a bit...we talk about anger and rage and snubs and poor choices then we bring it back to love and marriage and relationships. Come along for the ride. Female rage was a big part of the last decade of literature and fiction. Can it be useful, bring clarity and then harnessed for change? Hell yes. (Starts at :54) Movies that make us rage: Li...
'Fleabag' Season One & Phoebe Waller-Bridge 01.01.2020 1:16:50
Fleabag Season One: the most complicated of all. **Fleabag is the most complex woman we've come across, the epitome of the modern complicated woman. Kate asserts that no one asks so much of us in terms of what we are willing to accept or tolerate in a character. (00:30). **We unpack Fleabag's crazy complicated relationships -- Godmother (6:30), Father (13:00), Hot arsehole guy (18:08), The Loan Gu...
Quick Cap 2: Rocking Out and Rocking the Boat (Jennifer Nettles and Reese Witherspoon) 23.12.2019 38:29
Quick Cap #2 Segments Updates from Quick Cap #1: Good news -- Carinn actually likes wine! (starts at :20) Bad news -- Carinn confirmed our worst fear: that astrology is apparently not mainstream. Say it isn’t so! (at 3:20) Casting For Daisy Jones and the Six has been announced and it’s sooo perfect. (at 7:45) The Morning Show (and Billy Crudup) still has our attention. (at 11:05) We discuss Reese...
'Sleeping With Other People' & Leslye Headland 16.12.2019 1:06:26
Sleeping With Other People: When Harry Met Sally for a new generation **Complicated Woman Rating. What makes Lainey Dalton complicated? Carinn and Kate both agree Lainey is a solid 5 out of 5 rating. She hits all the marks, defying the romcom female lead at every turn. (00:35) **Lainey’s best scenes. It was hard to narrow the list of the best down or to even decide if the same scene was the best o...
'Love Actually' & Emma Thompson & Laura Linney & Martine McCutcheon 09.12.2019 52:36
Love Actually: love, actually, is complicated and Love Actually is complicated too. A fan favorite but also a critics’ favorite to bash. We face the attacks head on so we can put the cringe behind us and get to the really good stuff. (Starts at 2:06) Is this even a love story? Carinn argues that romance and love are two different things in the context of a relationship. Kate acknowledges that the...
Quick cap: Taylor Swift, Astrology, Dare Me 20.11.2019 36:59
Quick Cap #1 segments Dare Me Trailer is released We’ve started watching The Morning Show Taylor Swift Rolling Stone interview How mainstream is astrology? Jessica Knoll has a real Luckiest Girl Alive moment Why you should be following Chanel Miller on Instagram Stay complicated! Links: Dare Me trailer on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voAxyHv2Nqc Taylor Swift in Rolling Stone https://ww...
'When Harry Met Sally' & Nora Ephron 20.11.2019 1:31:10
When Harry Met Sally: more complicated than you think Complicated Woman Rating - what makes Sally Albright complicated? Sally’s best scenes. The best can mean sweetest, funniest, most badass, most growth. Anything we love. (6:45) Sally’s cringiest scenes. Cringy scenes make you squirm, but part of being a complicated woman is doing things that feel or come off as cringe-worthy. Sometimes it’s self...
Normal People & Sally Rooney 20.11.2019 1:19:09
*** NEW INTRO: Carinn and Kate revisit this episode, their first ever, recorded six months and over 25 episodes ago. Everything after the 45 minute mark is original content unlike anything else out there. We hope you enjoy! Normal People: a slow, deep complicated *** Complicated Woman Rating - what makes Marianne complicated? *** The best scenes with Marianne. The best can mean sweetest, funniest,...
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