Carinn & Kate
Pop Fiction Women
In Pop Fiction Women we deep-dive into the complicated women of books, movies and TV shows, along with the women that bring them to life behind the scenes. Think Fleabag and Phoebe Waller Bridge, Normal People and Sally Rooney, and so much more. In each episode you can expect us to: * Break down the protagonist as we ask what makes her complicated? * Identify the best scenes, which can mean sweetest, funniest, or most badass. Anything we love. * Recount the cringiest scenes. The ones that make you squirm. Sometimes it’s self-sabotage, sometimes it’s growth, but it’s always part of the process...
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Carinn & Kate
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Feb 10, 2026
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Episodes
Yosha Gunasekera & 'The Midnight Taxi': Debut Discussions 10.02.2026 44:41
Yosha Gunasekera & 'The Midnight Taxi': Debut Discussions
Marisa Walz & 'Good Intentions': Debut Discussions 03.02.2026 48:14
Marisa Walz & 'Good Intentions': Debut Discussions
Wendy Walker & 'Blade': Complicated Conversations 01.02.2026 43:56
Wendy Walker & 'Blade': Complicated Conversations
Rachel Taff & 'Paper Cut': Debut Discussions 27.01.2026 50:57
Rachel Taff & 'Paper Cut': Debut Discussions
Virginia Kantra & 'Anne of a Different Island': Complicated Conversations 20.01.2026 41:12
Virginia Kantra Complicated Conversations
Yulin Kuang co-writer of 'The People We Meet on Vacation' on Netflix 14.01.2026 36:19
Yulin Kuang co-writer of 'The People We Meet on Vacation' on Netflix
Jessica Cozzi & 'We've Hit Turbulence': Debut Discussions 13.01.2026 36:58
Jessica Cozzi & 'We've Hit Turbulence': Debut Discussions
(500) Days of Summer: a near perfect movie, just not the one you want it to be 04.01.2026 1:15:34
(500) Days of Summer: a near perfect movie, just not the one you want it to be
Amy Meyerson & 'The Water Lies': Complicated Conversations 01.01.2026 38:57
In today’s Complicated Conversations, Kate chats with internationally bestselling author Amy Meyerson about her first work of psychological suspense, The Water Lies, a gripping journey where two mothers―one of a woman who drowned and the other of a toddler who might know what happened to her―are the only ones searching for the truth. The conversation delves into the dual perspectives of the two mo...
Alissa Lee & 'With Friends Like These': Debut Discussions 04.11.2025 45:42
In this episode of Debut Discussions, Alissa Lee shares her journey from a successful legal career to becoming a published author with her debut thriller, With Friends Like These. The conversation explores her early reading influences, the inspiration behind her book, character development, the significance of friendships, and the challenges of the querying process. Alissa reflects on the impact o...
Vanessa Lillie & 'The Bone Thief': Complicated Conversations Series 02.11.2025 46:33
In today’s Complicated Conversations we chat with Vanessa Lillie about her new novel, The Bone Thief, which is book two in her Syd Walker series. We discuss her journey as an author, the significance of Indigenous narratives, and the development of Syd and where we find her in this novel. Our conversation, like the book, explores themes of spirituality, community, and the impact of past traumas on...
Nobody Wants This Season 2 Recap: This is How You Choose Love Over Life 30.10.2025 53:49
Nobody Wants This Season 2 Recap: This is How You Choose Love Over Life
Rebecca Baum & 'The Brood': Complicated Conversations Series 28.10.2025 35:19
In this episode of Complicated Conversations, we welcome back Rebecca Baum to discuss her latest novel, The Brood, a feminist body horror story that explores themes of agency, internalized misogyny, and the complexities of womanhood. We chat with Rebecca about the protagonist, a cutthroat attorney, and her journey of control and surrender; the symbolism of cicadas; the role of bodies in the narrat...
Side bar on finding the right book at the right time and the controversy around eldest daughters 21.10.2025 41:05
Do you believe that the right book finds you at the right time? On this side bar we discuss how we each found the perfect book to deal with our emotional hangovers from the movie All of You on AppleTV. That led us to a discussion of the emotional connections that books create, the significance of reckoning with one's past, and the impact of first love on personal growth. We also chat about how...
Apple TV's 'All of You' starring Roy Kent/Brett Goldstein and Imogen Poots 05.10.2025 1:27:47
“Made for you might not be meant for you.” With a tagline like that, and a nuanced, realistic script about the brutal nature of love, connection and personal growth, it’s no wonder that we both loved the new film All of You on AppleTV. Here’s the summary: “Laura and Simon have been best friends since college. Over the years they've realized their bond is more than platonic. Can they - and shou...
'Materialists' & Celine Song 28.09.2025 1:13:17
In this episode we finally deep dive into Materialists, Celine Song’s follow-up to her Oscar-nominated movie, Past Lives (which we also covered - go check that out too!). There is so much to discuss in this film: choosing love or choosing the life you want; exploring how Lucy’s wound mirrors our own but how her response to it differs; turning a realistic lens on modern dating; and why, like Celine...
Laura Goode & 'Pitch Craft" : Complicated Conversations Series 21.09.2025 48:44
In today’s Complicated Conversation, we chat with Laura Goode about her book, Pitch Craft: The Writer’s Guide to Getting Agented, Published, and Paid. This book is a must-read for both aspiring writers and seasoned authors. Listen now and discover practical advice on navigating the publishing world, understanding the psychology of overachievement, and redefining our understanding of success and c...
The Summer I Turned Pretty Season 3 Finale 17.09.2025 40:58
The Summer I Turned Pretty Season 3 Finale
Sidebar on L.O.V.E second chances and reversing the prophesy from Taylor Swift and TSITP 31.08.2025 46:29
Sidebar on L.O.V.E second chances and reversing the prophesy from Taylor Swift and TSITP
Samantha Downing & 'Too Old For This': Complicated Conversations Series 26.08.2025 33:16
In today’s Complicated Conversations, we welcome bestselling author Samantha Downing to discuss her latest novel, Too Old For This, a story about a wickedly funny female serial killer who has to come out of retirement to protect her past. We chat with Sam about her unforgettable heroine, Lottie Jones, who came into her mind and demanded her story be told. We discuss the themes of anger, the socie...
Sidebar on the identity crisis of the rom-com, mutual admiration as the foundation for love, sexing up Taylor Swift and covering up Pam Anderson - why we're here for both 21.08.2025 55:54
On this episode, we sidebar on the identity crisis of the rom-com, how mutual admiration is the foundation for love, sexing up Taylor Swift and covering up Pam Anderson - why we're here for both. And since we're talking about bodies, we discuss anxiety disorders vs eating disorders by way of reality TV lessons.
Cleyvis Natera & 'The Grand Paloma Resort': Complicated Conversations Series 19.08.2025 42:57
On today’s episode of Complicated Conversations, we welcome Cleyvis Natera to discuss her new thriller, The Grand Paloma Resort, which explores the complexities of sisterhood, the impact of tourism on local communities, and the themes of race and class in the Dominican Republic. Through the characters of Laura, Elena, and Vida, Cleyvis delves into the responsibilities and burdens of familial relat...
The Hunting Wives Season 1 Recap: Rebecca Cutter and May Cobb gave us Bonnie Raitt's something to talk about 14.08.2025 56:35
In this episode, we deep dive into the soapy sapphic thriller, The Hunting Wives. Based on a book by May Cobb and led by showrunner Rebecca Cutter, this Netflix summer binge series has everyone talking - and for good reason! At the heart of the story are two very complicated women, Sophie and Margo, played brilliantly by Brittany Snow and Malin Ackerman. Sophie, portrayed as an outsider grappling...
Karin Slaughter & 'We Are All Guilty Here': Complicated Conversations Series 12.08.2025 22:27
On today’s Complicated Conversation we welcome back Karin Slaughter, the author of twenty-five instant New York Times bestselling novels, to delve into the gripping world of "We Are All Guilty Here," the first book in a thrilling new series. The story kicks off with the kidnapping of two young girls, drawing us into the life of Emmy Clifton, a determined sheriff's deputy. As Emmy nav...
Sidebar on BSB at The Sphere, The Summer I Turned Pretty, Building the Band and Carinn finding her joy in reading again 05.08.2025 40:41
On this sidebar episode we dive into the fiery energy of Leo season, reflecting on the transition from the emotional depths of Cancer; share personal experiences, from Kate's upcoming birthday trip to Las Vegas to see the Backstreet Boys at The Sphere, to Carinn's creative breakthroughs during Cancer season. We also explore the complexities of relationships, both fictional and real, discus...
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