Civic Ventures
Pitchfork Economics with Nick Hanauer
We are living through a paradigm shift from trickle-down neoliberalism to middle-out economics — a new understanding of who gets what and why. Join zillionaire class-traitor Nick Hanauer and some of the world’s leading economic and political thinkers as they explore the latest thinking on how the economy actually works.
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Jul 7, 2026
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Capitalism is working better in Finland (with Anu Partanen and Trevor Corson) 28.09.2021 46:27
Contrary to popular belief, Nordic countries aren’t actually socialist! No, friends, the Nords are capitalists—but they pull it off much better than we do. To help re-imagine American capitalism, writers Anu Partanen and Trevor Corson join us this week all the way from Finland. This episode was originally recorded and posted in February 2020. Anu Partanen is a journalist and the author of The Nord...
Right-to-work is bad for workers (with Shane Larson) 24.09.2021 28:32
Right-to-work laws, which make unionizing more difficult in 28 states, could more accurately be referred to as right-to-work… for less. Why? On average, worker pay drops 3.1% when right-to-work laws are passed. Shane Larson from CWA, the largest communications and media labor union in the U.S., joins Goldy to explain why right-to-work laws are so harmful, how they came to be, and why it’s so impor...
How neoliberalism captured Democrats (with James Kwak) 21.09.2021 45:14
Democrats used to be known as the party of the working people—so how did they get so off track? Who took over the party, and why? Author and professor James Kwak joins Nick and Paul in a blistering analysis of the decline of the Democratic Party, and explains how we can get it back on track. This episode originally aired in January 2020. News clips credit: C-SPAN, ProfGP, CNN James Kwak is a pro...
Why restaurants can’t find workers (with restaurateur Mark Bucher) 17.09.2021 30:21
DC restaurateur Mark Bucher explains what’s behind the “labor” shortage (hint: it’s the wages), the role that restaurant owners need to play in stopping the “churn and burn” model of low-wage workers, and the future of the restaurant industry post-Covid. Mark Bucher is the co-owner of Medium Rare, a decade-old steakhouse with three locations in D.C., Arlington, and Bethesda. During the pandemic,...
What convinces people to act in the interest of others? (with Margaret Levi) 14.09.2021 44:20
What does it take for someone to act in the interest of others? What constitutes trust in general, and trust in government in particular? Margaret Levi, a professor of political and behavioral sciences, shares her research on how people can be persuaded to act in the interest of others if they don’t already want to. The conversation covers vaccines, unions, citizen confidence in government, and a...
How Covid shook the world’s economy (with Adam Tooze) 07.09.2021 50:55
There have been far more lethal pandemics than Covid-19, but the scale of our response to Covid-19 is dramatically new. For the first time in human history, our civilization made a collective decision to shut much of the world economy down. Contemporary historian Adam Tooze helps us understand what happened, why it happened, and how we can learn from it. Sign up for our new weekly newsletter, The...
Why is getting out of poverty so hard? (with Felicia Wong) 31.08.2021 40:02
Roosevelt Institute President Felicia Wong and writer Hanna Brooks Olsen join Nick and Goldy to explore how the intense burdens of poverty make it nearly impossible to even think about climbing the economic ladder. This episode was originally recorded and released in 2019. Sign up for our new weekly newsletter, The Pitch: https://civicventures.substack.com/ Felicia Wong is the President and CEO...
Why is the child tax credit good economic policy? (with Wendy Bach) 24.08.2021 45:13
Everything you need to know about what the expanded child tax credit actually is, why it’s good policy, and how it will impact people’s lives. Wendy Bach is a Professor of Law at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville. She is a nationally recognized expert in poverty law. Twitter: @wendyabach Biden’s child tax credit is a step away from a discriminatory system: https://qz.com/2034199/how-does-th...
How the credit market drives up housing prices (with Redfin CEO Glenn Kelman) 17.08.2021 33:32
What’s the next generation of access to credit? Why are home prices and rents so out-of-whack with each other? And how can we approach the discord between what liberals say they want for their community versus what housing and development policies they’ll actually support? Glenn Kelman, the CEO of real estate brokerage website Redfin, helps us examine the future of housing and the best ways that c...
Ask Nick Anything, continued! 10.08.2021 31:37
Is inflation bad? What’s the difference between a neoliberal and a conservative? If large corporations were held to higher labor standards than small employers, wouldn’t Walmart get all the talent? And more! Thanks to Mark from Nashville, David from Japan, Mike from Dallas-Fort Worth, Mary from Pennsylvania, Steve from Austin, and Pete from Boston, who left the great voicemails included in this ep...
Everything you need to know about the Frito-Lay Strike (with KS Rep Jason Probst) 03.08.2021 22:17
Workers at a Frito-Lay factory in Topeka, Kansas made national headlines when they went on strike to protest dismal labor conditions including forced overtime and 84-hour workweeks. (Frito-Lay's parent company, PepsiCo, made $10.5 billion in profit last year.) The strike ended after 19 days on July 26th, but it’s an important part of a national conversation about labor and corporate profits. Kansa...
Ask Nick Anything 27.07.2021 28:17
Nick and Goldy answer your questions! If we had progressive taxation, would we still need means testing? Can we send ultra-rich people away to their own economy? What are the best economic indicators for the progressive economy? And more! Thanks to Lisa from Indianapolis, Rick from Baltimore, Jacob from Portland, Sean from Philadelphia, Linda from Seaside, and Frank from Georgia who left the great...
Fiscal policy can help save the environment (with Sarah Bloom Raskin) 20.07.2021 41:17
Can we create transformative climate outcomes by adopting new regulatory strategies? Financial regulation expert Sarah Bloom Raskin helps us explore what levers exist to steer fiscal and monetary policy toward lasting sustainability. Sarah Bloom Raskin is the former Deputy Secretary of the U.S. Department of the Treasury and a former Governor of the Federal Reserve Board. She served as the Commis...
Why billionaires are paying no taxes (LIVE from CAP) 13.07.2021 22:35
Our friends at the Center for American Progress put on a great virtual event last week with Senator Sherrod Brown, discussing how the U.S. tax codes favors the wealthy and the tools Congress plans to use to rebalance the tax system. Twitter: @amprog You can watch video of the event here: https://www.americanprogress.org/events/2021/06/21/500822/billionaires-paying-no-taxes/ The Secret IRS Files:...
We all do better when we all do better (with JP Julien) 06.07.2021 31:52
Contrary to fears that economic inclusion must come at the expense of economic growth, global management consulting firm McKinsey & Company's research and empirical evidence supports the idea that economic growth is at its best when it is most inclusive – but that equity needs to be embedded in systems from the start in order to be effective. What does ‘inclusion’ mean in the context of an economy...
Summer Reading List! 29.06.2021 28:09
It’s Nick and Goldy’s summer reading list! We want to know what you’re reading, too. Let us know on Instagram: @pitchforkeconomics. Remember to shop local and small when you can, or order from IndieBound or Bookshop.org—both of which support independent bookstores! All of these books are also likely available at your library. Every book mentioned in this episode: The WEIRDest People in the Wor...
Post-pandemic booms (with Callum Williams) 22.06.2021 38:18
Callum Williams from The Economist predicts what we can expect from the economy in the coming months based on past periods of massive non-financial disruption, including past pandemics and major world wars. Callum Williams is a senior economics writer at The Economist. Twitter: @econcallum What history tells you about post-pandemic booms: https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2021/04/29...
Chipotle CEO Brian Niccol is a trickle-down clown 15.06.2021 33:23
You probably saw the news that Chipotle is raising its menu prices by 4 percent, and that leadership is blaming the price increase on the fact that they had to raise their starting pay to $15 per hour. It’s not at all surprising to see a large employer like Chipotle blame rising wages for everything, but what was disappointing was the media’s willingness to repeat Chipotle’s story without looking...
Inequality is bad for everyone (with Djaffar Shalchi) 09.06.2021 38:20
We’re back to our favorite topic this week—TAX THE RICH! Beyond all the benefits that come from a well-funded social safety net, taxing the wealthy would lessen inequality, which would make most people—including the extravagantly wealthy—happier. Super-rich Danish entrepreneur Djaffar Shalchi shares the wisdom that Denmark understands: Inequality is bad for everyone. Djaffar Shalchi is an entre...
How U.S. policy was designed to suppress wages (with Larry Mishel and Josh Bivens) 01.06.2021 38:00
Radical and rising economic inequality is no secret — and now, thanks to new research from the Economic Policy Institute, neither is its price tag nor its cause. There’s never been a study quite like this — one which places specific, real dollar amounts on every trickle-down policy American politicians have embraced. The study’s authors, Larry Mishel and Josh Bivens, explain how their work reveal...
It’s not a labor shortage, it’s a wage shortage (with Heidi Shierholz) 25.05.2021 30:42
You have no doubt seen the scary headlines warning of a “labor shortage” caused by the additional pandemic unemployment insurance payments. The coverage of this story is widespread, even though most economics reporters can find no credible evidence linking unemployment checks to a labor shortage. EPI economist Heidi Shierholz joins us to explain why UI and stimulus payments aren’t causing a “labor...
Your non-compete clause is probably illegal (with WA Attorney General Bob Ferguson) 18.05.2021 43:00
Non-compete clauses, and the lesser-known no-poach agreements between franchises, are shockingly common for low-wage workers. Although these contracts were originally intended to protect trade secrets among high-level executives, they have spiralled into an unfair labor practice that keeps wages low, limits employee mobility, and decreases competition. Washington state Attorney General Bob Ferguso...
Why we need a mission-driven economy (with Mariana Mazzucato) 11.05.2021 39:12
What do the internet and COVID vaccines have in common? Neither would be possible without the work of DARPA, a mission-focused federal agency responsible for funding research and development. Professor Mariana Mazzucato is with us this week to argue that our economy will be better off if more government agencies adopt DARPA’s mission-oriented approach. Mariana Mazzucato is a Professor in the Eco...
Is the economy at a turning point? (with Anusar Farooqui) 04.05.2021 37:41
Essayist Anusar Farooqui makes the case that we are witnessing the final break from neoliberalism in the United States. Anusar Farooqui writes on Substack as Policy Tensor. Show us some love by leaving a rating or a review! RateThisPodcast.com/pitchforkeconomics The Making of the Mother of All Economic Booms: https://policytensor.substack.com/p/the-making-of-the-mother-of-all-economic Website:...
Can businesses help repair society? (with Ben & Jerry) 27.04.2021 37:03
Can business leaders use their power and resources to make meaningful change? Should they? Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield, the founders behind iconic ice cream brand Ben & Jerry’s, help map the landscape between business and activism and introduce their new project, the Campaign to End Qualified Immunity. Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield are the co-founders of Ben & Jerry’s Ice Cream. Most recently...
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