USAJFKSWCS, Ash Holzmann, Derek Riley, Jason Gambardella
Pineland Underground
The official podcast of the U.S. Army John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School at Fort Liberty, North Carolina. SGM Riley and MAJ Holzmann embark on a journey to provide the best podcast in the military with bi-monthly relentless awesomeness. Real. Bold. Un-restricted.
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USAJFKSWCS, Ash Holzmann, Derek Riley, Jason Gambardella
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Jul 8, 2025
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Episodes
Atomic Programming | Physical and Mental Fitness Programming for Special Operations (Bonus Episode) 29.07.2022 1:42:03
Owner of Atomic Athlete, Jake Saenz, and United States Army Special Warfare Center and School Athletic Trainer, Aaron Craft, discuss how to train for Special Operation Selections, the Army Combat Fitness Test and life in general. We discuss physical and mental aspects of training as well as injury prevention. Jake is a former Army Ranger and has been training and teaching physical fitness for over...
Ghosts in the Machine | Full Spectrum Special Operations (PSYOP) 22.07.2022 1:17:26
What’s the deal with the new highly controversial new PSYOP recruiting video entitled “Ghosts in the Machine?” What are Psychological Operations? Are they really pulling the strings of foreign governments around the world? We sit with the creator of the Ghost in the Machine video, MAJ Lamb, and a PSYOP history expert MAJ Holzmann to explore the answers. Email Us! pinelandunderground@gmail.com USAJ...
Full Spectrum Special Operations (Civil Affairs) | Rob McQueen 08.07.2022 1:31:57
We sit down with Civil Affairs legend Rob McQueen to discuss how to properly use the entire toolkit of capabilities within the U.S. Army Special Operations construct. We deep dive into how to best combine Special Forces, Civil Affairs and Psychological Operations to achieve effects across the globe. We also dive into the current geopolitical game, Ukraine, and non-profit organizations. Email Us!...
Leadership in the Shadows | CSM (R) Kyle Lamb 24.06.2022 1:56:11
Lessons in leadership from legendary Delta Force operator, and VikingTactics owner Kyle Lamb, COL (retired) Tim Ladouceur, CSM Sean Mullins and COL Stu Farris. Email Us! pinelandunderground@gmail.com USAJFKSWCS Instagram Special Warfare Center (@u.s.armyswcs) • Instagram photos and videos USAJFKSWCS Facebook https://www.facebook.com/jfkcenterandschool/ YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4H...
Medal of Honor | SGM Matt Williams. Valor, Texas and Special Forces. 10.06.2022 57:44
Medal of Honor recipient SGM Matt Williams visits the Falcon Snail Pub to talk about growing up in a small Texas town, his road to becoming a Special Forces Green Beret, life on a Special Forces A-Team, and what it's like being an active-duty Medal of Honor recipient still serving at the tactical level. Matt served on a team within the 3rd Special Forces Group Airborne that had over 16 Silver Star...
War Machine | Living Tissue Over Metal Endoskeleton CW2 Nick Lavery 27.05.2022 1:56:36
CW2 Nick Lavery is an active-duty member of The United States Army Special Forces. On his second combat rotation to Afghanistan he and his Detachment fell victim to an insider attack ultimately resulting in the loss of his leg. Following a year of surgeries and initial recovery including the use of a prosthetic at Walter Reed National Medical Military Center, he returned to his unit. Refusing a mi...
E-Tool Nation | #ISIS_SurrenderOrDie - John Wayne Troxell 13.05.2022 58:31
E-Tool Nation host and SEAC(R) John Wayne Troxell joins us on this episode discussing topics ranging from serving as the most senior enlisted member of the United States Armed Forces to the moment in time that will forever bond him with an entrenching tool. With over 37 years of service in the United States Army, Troxell shares his experiences with leadership at every level.
From Officer to CEO | Hibbett Sports CEO Mike Longo and Author Mike Lerario 29.04.2022 59:24
While Bobby is off doing “Officer things” Chuck sits down with retired SOF West Point alum who are crushing it in life after wearing the U.S. Army uniform. From best hiring practices, changing the culture of a business and the aftermath of consuming an entire pitcher of Harvey Wallbangers, Hibbitt City Gear CEO Mike Longo and author Mike Lerario provide world class information for anyone entering...
Ranger Roach | No $hit There I Was 15.04.2022 54:20
Bobby and Chuck take a special trip back to listen to their very first recorded podcast together with special guest COL (R) Jim Roach. Hold on to your seats for this one. The Legend Ranger Roach takes us on an adventure through Vietnam and special life events. You don’t want to miss this one!
Brackforce #1 | I Thought I killed Bin Laden and the dangers of misusing myself 01.04.2022 1:04:09
On today’s episode we are joined with MSG Chad Brack from the Non Commissioned Officers Academy. We take a personal look into the story of one Special Forces soldier’s accounts on the importance of education, teamwork, deployments to Afghanistan, and the time he thought that his team killed Bin Laden.
Robin Sage and Unconventional Warfare | The real story of the Special Forces culmination exercise 18.03.2022 1:19:08
On today’s episode we are joined with the SWCS Chief of Staff COL Stu Farris, and MSG (Ret) Chris Rogers. We discuss unconventional warfare and how it applies to the Special Forces culminating exercise known as Robin Sage. We address some common misconceptions that typically are associated with military exercises that occur within the local population to help inform and educate the public. Email...
Applied Design for Innovation | Graduate Program for Warfighters and Innovation Brokers 03.03.2022 1:04:46
On today's episode we are at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, CA and are joined by Dr. Leo Blanken, MAJ Shawn Redding, MAJ Scott Rowan, and CDR Justin Davis. We discuss applied design for innovation, defense analysis, and the importance of technology to our SOF and partner forces.
Back to the Future | LTG(R) Tovo Reflects on the Cold War and the Future of Army SOF 25.02.2022 1:16:22
We had the honor of having LTG(R) Ken Tovo back at the Falcon Snail Pub to record a new episode of Pineland Underground. We discussed the modern geopolitical battlefield, the daily, and weekly life of a general, life lessons and his thoughts of the fundamentals of leaderships that transcend the tactical to strategic levels. His precision in speech never ceases to impress. Email Us! pinelandundergr...
Forged In Fire | SGM Chuck Ritter. Mindset, Recovery and Perseverance 04.02.2022 1:10:48
On today's episode, we are joined by SGM Chuck Ritter, SGM Jimmy Dauteuil, and MAJ James Blackburn. In this episode, we hear the story of SGM Ritter's actions in combat, his road to recovery following his injuries, and his drive to get back into the fight. We discuss 'shifting mindset' - from failing Bowling Class at community college to leading Green Berets in battle. Stories to Robin Sage, it's...
Silicon Valley and SOF | Driving Innovation 21.01.2022 1:03:50
On today’s episode of Pineland Underground we sit down with Mr. Bill Warner, member of the renowned Naval Postgraduate School Foundation Advisory Council. We discuss the drive for innovation through collaboration across Silicon Valley and Special Operations. We dive into Applied Design for Innovation at the Naval Postgraduate School, thoughts on Cyber and China, and the “innovation engine” as it a...
Creating the next generation of SOF leaders 07.01.2022 57:51
The MSG David K. Thuma Noncommissioned Officers Academy - NCOA is tasked with training disciplined NCO’s capable of executing full spectrum Special Operations in complex and ambiguous environments. In this episode we are joined by three NCOA instructors from each of the Special Forces, Civil Affairs, and Psychological Operations regiments. They discuss what it’s like to work at the SWCS NCOA and...
Digital Dunkirk | Exclusive insight into the Afghan Evacuation 17.12.2021 1:16:25
In this episode, we are joined by COL(R) Fred Dummar, a retired Special Forces officer who commanded at every level in Special Forces from Captain to Colonel, with multiple combat deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan. Having spent a significant amount of time in Afghanistan himself on active duty and as a defense contractor, COL(R) Dummar discusses the evacuation from Afghanistan and how he aided i...
Talking Trash & Special Operations | A Look Inside this Human Phenomenon 15.12.2021 1:03:53
In this episode we are joined by Rafi Kohan, the author of “The Arena” which is a deep dive into wide ranging and interdisciplinary examination of the modern American sports stadium. Rafi is currently researching for his upcoming book on competitive banter a.k.a. talking trash, a human behavioral phenomenon that has existed throughout time, across cultures, and across the world.
A Warrior’s Journey | From Surviving Oppression to Freeing the Oppressed 24.11.2021 1:26:01
Today we are joined Green Beret Master Sergeant (Retired) Tu Lam, the inspiration behind Call of Duty: Modern Warfare’s Operator Rōnin ( 浪人 ) and founder of Ronin Tactics. Tu shares his story of escaping oppression in communist Vietnam and his road to earning the coveted Green Beret, his time serving as a Special Forces soldier, his post-military career and his return to the JFK Special Warfare...
Countering Misinformation and Disinformation 22.10.2021 1:11:08
Today we are joined by Colonel Bobby Sidell, the Command Psychologist for the John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School to discuss finding clarity and critical thinking through malign Misinformation-Disinformation (MISDIS). Colonel Sidell discusses SWCS’ new curriculum focused on developing sharper awareness and recognition of MISDIS platforms and the environments which nurture it, means t...
Information Management in the Production of Special Operations 08.10.2021 1:17:01
Today we are joined by Major Stu Gallagher, Special Operations Forces Management Information System or SOFMIS. The mission of the John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School (SWCS) is to produce our world-class Army Special Operations Force Soldiers. The discussion centers around how SOFMIS improving how the organization it collects, manages and analyzes information to allow the organization...
(Knowledge Wins) The Kill Chain | Defending America 18.06.2021 36:21
Today we are joined by Christian Brose, author of “The Kill Chain - Defending America in the Future of High-Tech Warfare.” We open with Mr. Brose explaining how his time on the Senate Armed Services Committee led him to author this book. He discusses with our host how the changing nature of conflict has eroded traditional U.S. military supremacy. The twin problems are the slowness of the US milita...
(Knowledge Wins) Defeating ISIS in Syria | Lessons Learned from the SOJTF Commander 28.05.2021 31:42
Today we are joined by the commander of the United States Army John F. Kennedy Special Warfare and School, Maj. General Patrick Roberson to discusses the lessons learned in Syria. A key theme is the complex nature of fighting in Syria, both to win the war on the ground, and to win the narrative battle. Also covered is the increasing Great Power Competition between the US, Russian and Iranian gover...
(Knowledge Wins) SOF Resources for a Healthy Family 30.04.2021 24:17
Today we are joined again by Colonel Robert Sidell, the Command Psychologist for the U.S. Army John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School to discuss the SOF family programs seminar, and the importance of family wellness. COL Sidell opens by explaining the necessity of a good work-life balance and allowing service members to bring their best performance to work. The conversation is then expa...
(Knowledge Wins) SOF Resources for Mental Wellness 16.04.2021 22:37
Today we are joined by Colonel Robert Sidell, the Command Psychologist for the U.S. Army John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School to discuss executive coaching, professional wellness and development. We open with COL Sidell on why he established the Soldier Wellness and Family Wellness series. We follow this by discussing the traditional stigma attached to seeking mental help and how the...
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