USAJFKSWCS, Ash Holzmann, Derek Riley, Jason Gambardella

Pineland Underground

The official podcast of the U.S. Army John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School at Fort Liberty, North Carolina. SGM Riley and MAJ Holzmann embark on a journey to provide the best podcast in the military with bi-monthly relentless awesomeness. Real. Bold. Un-restricted.

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USAJFKSWCS, Ash Holzmann, Derek Riley, Jason Gambardella

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Government

Latest episode

Jul 8, 2025

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Episodes

From a Special Forces Team Room to the NFL| An Interview with Nate Boyer 08.07.2025

The Pineland Underground Podcast team sits down with Mr. Nate Boyer in this episode. Nate is a "Renaissance Human" like many Army Special Operators who shares his unique call to serve as a Special Forces Green Beret and then his successful journey to become both a D1 college football player & eventually play in the NFL. ARSOF operators can do anything!

Off the Radar | Interview with USASOC SOT-D NTC 30.06.2025

The Pineland Underground Podcast team sits down with members of the Special Operations Training Detachment (SOT-D West) to discuss how ARSOF units train and prepare for Large Scale Combat Operations (LSCO) during National Training Center (NTC) rotations. The discussion centers on how ARSOF operators and units, alongside their conventional force partners, innovate & collaborate within a comprehensi...

The Making of a PSYOP Operator 24.06.2025

In this episode, MAJ Jim Maicke and SFC Clayton Coash sit down with two newly minted PSYOP Soldiers. We learn about their backgrounds, experiences in selection and the qualification course and what it takes to be a PSYOP Operator!

The Art of Warrior Diplomacy | An Interview with AMBO Andrew Young 18.06.2025

In this episode, LTC Pete Guerdan (Special Operations Recruiting Battalion Commander) and MAJ Jim Maicke speak with Ambassador Andrew Young about the vital role our ARSOF Operators play in U.S. Embassies and how they enhance our strategic partnerships around the globe.

The Making of a Civil Affairs Soldier | An Interview with a Newly Minted CA Officer and NCOs 09.06.2025

This week, the team discusses all things Civil Affairs, to include what it takes to make a great Civil Affairs Operator!

The Making of a Special Forces Operator | An Interview with a Newly Minted SF Officer & SF NCO 27.05.2025

On this episode, we sit down with a recently graduated and qualified Special Forces officer and non commissioned officer. They will discuss their personal motivations to pursue a Special Forces career and their experiences during their time in Special Forces Assessment and Selection and the Special Forces Qualification Course.

Welcome to the Guerrilla Factory | An Interview with the Robin Sage Command Team 19.05.2025

On this episode, we delve into the culminating exercise that is Robin Sage. This is the event all students must face in order to become a qualified operator. Here, students will be required to apply everything they have learned throughout their training to effectively work as a team in a simulated special operations mission.

Master the Fundamentals | Interview with the Small Unit Tactics (SUT) CMD Team 15.05.2025

This week we sit down with the Small Unit Tactics Command Team to discuss how operators shoot, move and communicate and gain experience for real word operations.

Meet the Season 4 Team! 15.05.2025

Meet the new Pineland Underground hosts. The crew will be discussing any and all things related to Army Special Operations this season!

Down the Rabbit Hole | The History of PSYOP with Dr. Tracy 04.11.2024

Did you know we can trace the Psychological Operations Regiment to a single person? Did you know PSYOP played a role in the Office of Strategic Services? They were there at the landings of Normandy, in the planning for Desert Storm, and remain a critical component to military victory in the modern age. Join us as we host Dr. Jared Tracy, the Army Special Operations Forces' Deputy Command Historian...

Professionals Talk Logistics | Logistics and Special Operations 14.10.2024

"Without sustainment, you're just camping with guns." Did you know it takes quite a lot to sustain an organization like the Special Warfare Center & School? Join us as we discuss sustainment for the organization, sustainment for Special Operations, and how logistics wins wars.   About the guest: Lt. Col. Pete Van Howe served as the G4 for SWCS and previously served as executive officer of the 407t...

The History of Special Forces; Origins, Misconceptions, and Facts | Dr. Sacquety returns! 30.09.2024

Did you know the Special Forces Operation Detachment Alpha hasn't always had twelve people in it? Did you know only 1% of the first official Special Forces organization was made up of members of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS)? The history of Special Forces is a tapestry, weaving together organizations like Merrill’s Marauders (or Unit Galahad), the Philippine resistance movements in WWII,...

Morale; Retention; Recruitment; Leadership | We speak with Author Corie Weathers 16.09.2024

Corie Weathers is a licensed professional counselor, speaker, consultant, and author focusing her career for the last 20 years as a clinician specializing in marriage, military and first responders, the service culture, and its impact on families. We sat down with her to speak about the challenges of communication within military families and relationships, returning home after conflict, retention...

What Does it Take to Win a War? | The History of the Civil Affairs Regiment 02.09.2024

Did you know Civil Affairs Soldiers were on the beaches of Normandy and tasked with addressing the cattle killed from the combat operations so that disease outbreaks could be mitigated? Or that Civil Affairs prevented cholera outbreaks during the Korean War? Combat is only one aspect of conflict and war. We dive deep in this episode where we cover the history of Civil Affairs. The Civil Affairs Br...

How to Frame and Answer SOF Problems through Professional Writing | Special Warfare Magazine's Future 19.08.2024

Preserving and capturing the lessons learned from the Global War on Terror; what is keeping the newest generation of Army Special Operations Forces (SOF) up at night; how can we continue to develop professional military writing in Army SOF; how to we modernize such efforts? We tackle all of that and more in this episode with two great Special Operations practitioners and recent graduates of the Na...

What Makes Warfare Irregular? | We speak with Mr./Lt. Col. Doug Livermore on Irregular Warfare 05.08.2024

Did you know the entire Joint Force engages in Irregular Warfare? Often defined differently depending on the individual or organization you speak to, we have Doug Livermore on to help define and discuss Irregular Warfare, the nature of conflict, and how our named adversaries also apply it across the globe. Listen in to learn how Irregular Warfare is not only a job for Special Operations.   About t...

Are You Tough Enough? | The JFK 50 Miler 15.07.2024

Did you know the nation's oldest and largest continuously held ultramarathon was launched as a national challenge by President John F. Kennedy? On today's podcast, we are fortunate enough to have Mike Spinnler as our guest and SWCS's very own Command Sergeant Major, Cmd. Sgt. Maj. Strong. It is the only remaining 50-mile event of several held around the country as part of President John F. Kennedy...

Money is a Weapon | Brig. Gen. Dudley—the Counter Threat Finance expert in the U.S. Army 01.07.2024

Trailblazer does not begin to define Brigadier General Sara Dudley, who is truly undefinable. Finance officer by trade, Brig. Gen. Dudley is the Counter Threat Finance expert currently serving within the United States Army. From deployments in the Middle East to serving within the Special Operations Command, Brig. Gen. Dudley is a true testament to dedication to service, a true voice within the De...

The State of SWCS | A conversation with BG Beaurpere, CSM Strong, and CW5 Ostrander 10.06.2024

It's not every day you get to interview your boss's boss's boss. We review the main mission of the U.S. Army John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School, how the organization has continued to evolve and uphold standards through the past two years, and what is on the horizon.   About the guests: Brigadier General Guillaume “Will” Beaurpere has served for the last two years as the Commanding G...

All the Places You'll Go | The U.S. Embassy Special Operations Liaison Officer (SOLO) 27.05.2024

Did you know Army Special Operations often deploy to U.S. Embassies across the globe? Did you know that some Special Operations personnel even move to those Embassies for years at a time to assist partner nations and coordinate Special Operations elements?  Join us in a conversation with a U.S. Embassy-based Special Operations Liaison Officer (SOLO) as he discusses the SOLO program, and unique way...

Till all are One | The Space / SOF / Cyber Triad 13.05.2024

Join us in today's episode covering the SOF / Cyber / Space Triad where we discuss how Space and Cyber integrate with Special Operations, but also how it is taught in the pipelines and courses here at the JFK Special Warfare Center & School. We cover some of the history and significance of Space and Cyber integrating in conflict, competition, and with Special Operations Forces.   About the hosts:...

Soldiers Become Governors | Civil Affairs Assessment and Selection 29.04.2024

How do Soldiers transition to become governors? Experts on the U.S. Army Civil Affairs Assessment and Selection (CAAS), join us in a conversation about how to best prepare for the mental and physical journey.   Would you like to know more? Go here to see if Civil Affairs is what you've been searching for ( https://www.goarmysof.army.mil/CA/ ) Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-6xwphhI0s  Mor...

Secrets Behind the Special Warfare Museum | Roxanne Merritt and Living History 15.04.2024

Roxanne Merritt is truly an institution within Army Special Operations. Her tenure as the Supervisory Curator at the JFK Special Warfare Museum predates the establishment of SOCOM, and even predates Special Forces becoming a branch in the Army. Join us as we interview her for her podcast debut! The JFK Special Warfare Museum was established in 1963 and has and continues to spotlight the history of...

Writing About Writing | The Harding Project and the Effort to Revitalize the Army's Professional Journals 01.04.2024

The Harding Project is an effort led by Zachary Griffiths and Leyton Summerlin as they strive to revitalize the professional military journals across the Army. This episode discusses "writing about writing," but also the efforts of The Harding Project and how Zach and Leyton are striving to both modernize and catalog the Army's professional military journals. Bonus guest Ms. Elvia Kelley also join...

Eat, Sleep, Perform | Human Performance in Special Operations 18.03.2024

Join us in today's episode as we have Jim Arp and Steve Mannino from the Human Performance organization within the United States Army Special Operations Center and School to discuss human performance in Army Special Operations. From physical therapists to registered dieticians. Interpersonal performance coaches, strength coaches, and athletic trainers.   About the hosts: Maj. Ashley "Ash" Holzmann...

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