People in Legal - Andrew, Chantal, David, Grace, Jonathan, Roni, Tim
People in Legal
“People in Legal: Stories and Insights from the Human Side of the Legal Tech Industry." Join us as we explore the personal journeys, challenges, and triumphs of professionals in law, legal tech, education, and academia. Each episode features candid conversations with industry experts, sharing their unique career paths and growth stories. We'll uncover tales of resilience, mentorship, ethical dilemmas, and career-defining moments. Whether you're a seasoned professional or just curious about the field, “People in Legal” offers inspiration and insights for everyone.
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People in Legal - Andrew, Chantal, David, Grace, Jonathan, Roni, Tim
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Jul 8, 2026
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LawFest 2026 David Whiting 01.04.2026 8:53
🎙️ 𝗕𝗲𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗚𝗼𝗼𝗴𝗹𝗲. 𝗕𝗲𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗔𝗜. 𝗣𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲 𝗰𝗮𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗿𝗮𝗱𝗶𝗼 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝗮𝗱𝘃𝗶𝗰𝗲. At LawFest 2026, we spoke with David Whiting the Principal of Whiting Lawyers — who’s spent 30+ years answering real legal questions from real people. Different era. Same core problem:People don’t just want answers… they want 𝘁𝗿𝘂𝘀𝘁. 💡 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀: ↳ The best lawyers are still found through personal referrals, not search resu...
LawFest2026 Andy King 01.04.2026 14:36
“𝗔𝗜 𝗶𝘀 𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘆𝘄𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲… 𝗯𝘂𝘁 𝗺𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗳𝗶𝗿𝗺𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗮𝘀𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘀𝗮𝗺𝗲 𝗾𝘂𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻: 𝘄𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝗱𝗼 𝘄𝗲 𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗻 𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗿𝘁?”🎙️ On the ground at LawFest — a conversation between Andrew King and David Woolstencroft. What stood out? Not the noise. Not the hype. But the 𝗱𝗶𝗿𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗺𝗮𝗿𝗸𝗲𝘁 𝗶𝘀 𝗮𝗰𝘁𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝗺𝗼𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴.🎥 In this chat, they unpack: ↳ 𝗪𝗵𝘆 𝗡𝗲𝘄 𝗭𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗵𝗮𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲 𝗮 𝘁𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗯𝗲𝗱 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝘁𝗲𝗰𝗵 𝗶𝗻 𝗔𝗣𝗔𝗖 ↳ 𝗪𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗲𝘅𝗵𝗶𝗯𝗶𝘁𝗼𝗿𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝗴...
FLENA Conference 🎙️ James d’Apice (Gravamen) 01.04.2026 14:21
“𝗠𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗯𝘂𝘀𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀𝘀 𝗱𝗶𝘀𝗽𝘂𝘁𝗲𝘀 𝗱𝗼𝗻’𝘁 𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗿𝘁 𝗶𝗻 𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗿𝘁… 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗿𝘁 𝗶𝗻 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀 𝗽𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲 𝗮𝘃𝗼𝗶𝗱.”🎙️ In this People in Legal episode, David Woolstencroft sit down with James d'Apice, a commercial litigator specialising in shareholder and director disputes — unpacking what really causes business relationships to break down. And more importantly… how to prevent it.💡 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀: ↳ The best disputes are...
How to Pivot Your Legal Career in the Age of AI - Fractional Sparkle with Cat Casey on the Law and Beyond Show with Chantal McNaught 19.02.2026 33:31
Are you living someone else’s dream job? In this episode of the Law and Beyond show, host Chantal McNaught sits down with the legendary Cat "TechnoCat" Casey , a global voice in AI and legal innovation. Cat shares her fascinating journey from studying existential philosophy to becoming a leading voice in AI forensics. We dive deep into the "sunk cost fallacy" that keeps many le...
Criminal Defence, Resilience, and Law as a Second Career with Emma Moss 12.02.2026 26:32
Criminal law is a "very human business." For barrister Emma Moss , it is the space where she stands as the "thin line" between the power of the state and an individual’s liberty. But Emma’s path to the bar wasn't a straight line. It was a journey of pivots, from psychology and HR to returning to law school as a mature student and parent. In this episode of The Law and Beyond Show , host Chantal Mc...
Guardrails for Innovation: Navigating AI in Legal Tech with Claudia Simpson 05.02.2026 31:22
What does a legal tech career look like when you're not a lawyer? In this episode of the Law and Beyond Show, host Chantal McNaught sits down with Claudia Simpson , Senior Data Governance and Business Analyst at Law in Order , to explore how curiosity, saying yes to opportunities, and a people-first approach can build a powerful career in the expanding legal universe. From litigation support c...
❓ 𝗗𝗼 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗮𝗻 𝗜𝗧 𝗿𝗼𝗮𝗱𝗺𝗮𝗽… 𝗼𝗿 𝗷𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝗮 𝗹𝗶𝘀𝘁 𝗼𝗳 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗷𝗲𝗰𝘁𝘀 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗻𝗼 𝗰𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿 𝗥𝗢𝗜? 29.01.2026 12:52
❓ 𝗗𝗼 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗮𝗻 𝗜𝗧 𝗿𝗼𝗮𝗱𝗺𝗮𝗽… 𝗼𝗿 𝗷𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝗮 𝗹𝗶𝘀𝘁 𝗼𝗳 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗷𝗲𝗰𝘁𝘀 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗻𝗼 𝗰𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿 𝗥𝗢𝗜?That question summed up a powerful People in Legal conversation filmed live at the iManage Conference in Melbourne (Nov 2025).Host David Woolstencroft spoke with the Harbor team — Scott Sonter, Scott Cooper, and Damian Jeal — about what law firm CIOs and CTOs are really dealing with right now. And it is not just “𝘄𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝘁𝗲𝗰𝗵...
Systems Before Scale: What Funders See Inside PI Practices 22.01.2026 30:50
“If a law firm is running 100 matters with average disbursements of $5,000. that’s $500,000 locked up for two to three years.” In this episode of the People and Legal Podcast, host Chantal McNaught engages with Jo Cope , CEO of Providior , to discuss the intricacies of disbursement funding in the legal sector. Jo shares her extensive experience in financial services and legal funding, emphasising...
INSPIRE 2025 - Dan Hauck 08.01.2026 15:27
In this conversation, Dan discusses the latest innovations at NetDocuments, focusing on AI enhancements in document management, including semantic search capabilities, the introduction of MD Connect for third-party integrations, and the future roadmap for collaboration tools. The discussion highlights how these advancements are transforming workflows in law firms and improving client service. Chap...
The Legal Universe, AI, and Keeping Calm Under Pressure 01.01.2026 32:08
In this special episode of the People in Legal – Law and Beyond Podcast , host Chantal McNaught sits down with her friend and future lawyer Rhonda McGrath for an unfiltered conversation about life at the intersection of law, technology, and learning. From stumbling into a career in legal tech to grappling with trust accounting , Rhonda shares her candid experiences as a law student, her insights i...
The Lawyer–Technologist: Yule Guttenbeil on Scaling Smarter, Not Harder 25.12.2025 33:09
What happens when a commercial lawyer stops trying to "look like a lawyer" and starts building the future of the legal industry instead? In this episode, we’re hanging out with Yule Guttenbeil —the award-winning principal of Attune Legal and a self-described "multi-entrepreneur." Yule isn't just practising law, he’s building communities, coworking spaces, and software platf...
Law Beyond the Black Box: Mona Chiha on Fair, Transparent AI 18.12.2025 33:35
In this episode of the People in Legal podcast, host Chantal McNaught speaks with Mona Chiha , a pioneer in legal technology and the founder of JurisTechni. Mona shares her journey from finance to law, her passion for creating ethical AI solutions, and her commitment to making justice accessible and transparent. The conversation explores the importance of explainable AI in the legal field, the cha...
From Paginators to AI: Angus Murray on the Future of Law 11.12.2025 26:33
Angus Murray joins host Chantal McNaught to explore what it really means to practice law in a world of rapid technological change, AI tools , and growing pressure to treat law as a business first and a profession second . From a childhood conversation with his grandmother in England to a Masters in Stockholm and a career at the intersection of technology, privacy and human rights, Angus shares how...
Start Small and Succeed Big with AI Adoption Practices - Law and Beyond with Karrina Mountfort 04.12.2025 28:04
In this episode of The Law and Beyond Show , host Chantal McNaught sits down with Karrina Mountfort , founder of Webbased AI and The AI Assembly , to explore how AI can transform businesses while keeping people and processes at the core. Karina shares her journey from decades in tech innovation to building a supportive AI hub in New Zealand, dedicated to helping individuals and SMEs adopt technolo...
Every Firm Needs an Engineer: Ashley Kelso on People, Process, Technology 27.11.2025 30:04
In this episode of the Law and Beyond Show, Chantal McNaught interviews Ashley Kelso, a mechatronics engineer turned lawyer and legal tech entrepreneur. Ashley will take you on his unique journey from engineering to law, the importance of an engineering mindset in legal practice, and the challenges of adopting technology in the legal field. The conversation also touches on ethics in decision-makin...
From Talk to Action: Inside ALPMA’s Changing Legal Landscape with Carl Olson 20.11.2025 30:40
Host Chantal McNaught talks with Dye & Durham’s APAC MD, Carl Olson, about ALPMA’s Changing Legal Landscape report. They discuss the near-ubiquitous AI trial among practitioners, widening governance gaps, the sharp rise in wellbeing initiatives, and the real psychological load of cybersecurity incidents. Carl outlines what forward-facing firms are actually doing: holistic programmes that blend...
Legal research, LPM, and AI — finally unified 13.11.2025 8:55
𝗛𝗼𝘄 𝗱𝗼 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗯𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗼𝗴𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝗽𝗿𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗰𝗲 𝗺𝗮𝗻𝗮𝗴𝗲𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁, 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗰𝗵, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗔𝗜 — 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗺𝗮𝗸𝗲 𝗶𝘁 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸 𝗮𝘁 𝗴𝗹𝗼𝗯𝗮𝗹 𝘀𝗰𝗮𝗹𝗲? At 𝗖𝗹𝗶𝗼 𝗜𝗻𝗻𝗼𝘃𝗮𝘁𝗲 𝗟𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟱 𝗦𝘆𝗱𝗻𝗲𝘆, we spoke with Ronnie Gurion, COO of Clio, about the company’s next chapter — one shaped by bold acquisitions, AI innovation, and an unwavering focus on culture. 💡 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀: 👉 The vLex acquisition brings the world’s largest legal research database and...
Clio aims to transform the legal experience for all - Jack Newton 06.11.2025 8:41
𝗪𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗶𝗳 𝟳𝟳% 𝗼𝗳 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝗶𝘀𝘀𝘂𝗲𝘀 𝗻𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗿 𝗻𝗲𝗲𝗱𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝗴𝗼 𝘂𝗻𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗼𝗹𝘃𝗲𝗱 — 𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗹𝗱 𝗔𝗜 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝗰𝗹𝗼𝘀𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗷𝘂𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗰𝗲 𝗴𝗮𝗽? At 𝗖𝗹𝗶𝗼 𝗜𝗻𝗻𝗼𝘃𝗮𝘁𝗲 𝗟𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟱 𝗦𝘆𝗱𝗻𝗲𝘆, Jack Newton , CEO of Clio , shared how their vision goes far beyond legal software — it’s about transforming the entire legal experience for all. AI, he believes, will play a pivotal role in bridging the justice gap by: 👉 Reducing the friction and cost of access...
Through a Grubby Window: Jack Scott on Blindness, Advocacy, and Criminal Law 30.10.2025 34:50
CONTENT WARNING: We kept some details in this episode to maintain the genuine grit of criminal law practice. Listener discretion is advised. In this episode of the Law and Beyond Show, host Chantal McNaught sits down with Jack Scott, Senior Prosecutor with the Queensland Police Service, to explore the fascinating and often gritty world of criminal law. Jack shares how his journey to the courtroom...
Law as a Business & Law as a Profession: Leadership in 2025 and Beyond 16.10.2025 32:59
WE'RE BACK: In this episode of The Law and Beyond Show, host Chantal McNaught sits down with internationally respected consultant, speaker, and author Simon Tupman. After an early career as a solicitor in England, Simon transitioned into consulting and has spent over three decades helping law firms and legal professionals navigate challenges of leadership, business structure, and cultural chan...
People in Legal - Women + Ai Summit - Anna 20.08.2025 12:58
🎙 People in Legal – 𝗪𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗻 + 𝗔𝗜 𝗦𝘂𝗺𝗺𝗶𝘁 𝗘𝗱𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 💡At the Women + AI Summit, David Woolstencroft spoke with Anna Golovsky about her role in legal tech, the value of diversity, and the practical challenges of AI adoption. From starting small with proof of concepts to building strong vendor partnerships, the conversation highlighted how curiosity, collaboration, and active engagement are essential to t...
People in Legal - Women + Ai Summit - Bernadette Hyland-Wood, PhD 20.08.2025 14:55
At the Women + AI Summit, David Woolstencroft spoke with Bernadette Hyland-Wood, PhD about integrating AI in legal practices, from the promise and pitfalls of Microsoft Copilot to the importance of regulation, education, and ethics for small law firms. They also explored the role of women in technology, the power of community support, and why AI should complement—not replace—human expertise.💡 Key...
Women Ai Summit - Kim and Liza 12.08.2025 9:15
At the Women in AI Summit, David Woolstencroft spoke with Kim Trajer and Liza Greenwood about breaking down barriers to AI adoption in the legal industry. From creating psychological safety within teams to educating clients about AI’s risks and benefits, this conversation explored how community support and open dialogue can turn fear into innovation.💡 Key takeaways:↳ Barriers to AI adoption inclu...
Breaking the Mold: Wenee Yap on Mental Health, Storytelling, and Survive Law 10.08.2025 37:03
🎙 People in Legal – Law and Beyond ShowHost Chantal McNaught sits down with Wenee Yap – serial entrepreneur, writer, and founder of Survive Law – to explore the power of storytelling, the realities of law school, and why community matters. From mental health challenges to creative ventures, Wenee shares how her journey blends law, writing, and entrepreneurship – and why relatable resources and sha...
Women Ai Summit edition - Jaysee 10.08.2025 7:33
🎙 People in Legal – 𝗪𝗼𝗺𝗲𝗻 + 𝗔𝗜 𝗦𝘂𝗺𝗺𝗶𝘁 𝗘𝗱𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 💡 At the Women + AI Summit, David spoke with Jaysee Sunapho CAPM, a data architect, about the real foundations for successful AI—starting with clean, well-managed data. From the dangers of using AI as a bandaid for bad data to the critical role of skilled data teams, Jaysee shares how industries like healthcare and law can embrace innovation without s...
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