People in Legal - Andrew, Chantal, David, Grace, Jonathan, Roni, Tim
People in Legal
“People in Legal: Stories and Insights from the Human Side of the Legal Tech Industry." Join us as we explore the personal journeys, challenges, and triumphs of professionals in law, legal tech, education, and academia. Each episode features candid conversations with industry experts, sharing their unique career paths and growth stories. We'll uncover tales of resilience, mentorship, ethical dilemmas, and career-defining moments. Whether you're a seasoned professional or just curious about the field, “People in Legal” offers inspiration and insights for everyone.
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People in Legal - Andrew, Chantal, David, Grace, Jonathan, Roni, Tim
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Jul 8, 2026
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Episodes
Legal Innovation & Tech Fest - David Lisitsa 20.05.2026 7:10
🎙️ 𝗠𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗹𝗮𝘄 𝗳𝗶𝗿𝗺𝘀 𝗴𝗲𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗹𝗱 𝗮 𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗰𝗸. 𝗧𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝘀𝗵𝗼𝘂𝗹𝗱 𝗯𝘂𝘆 𝗮𝗻 𝗼𝘂𝘁𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲. At LEGAL INNOVATION & TECH FEST, our host Roni Millard, Founder and Health & Wellness Consultant at The Wellbeing Edge sat down with David Lisitsa, Director of NewLaw.com — the advisory many firms turn to when they need someone on their side of the table. In an age of noise: every vendor pitching, every AI tool a saviour, ever...
Legal Innovation & Tech Fest - Kaleb Holden 19.05.2026 3:12
🎙️ 𝗔𝗜 𝗻𝗲𝗲𝗱𝘀 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁. 𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝗷𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘁. At LEGAL INNOVATION & TECH FEST , Roni Millard , Founder and Health & Wellness Consultant at The Wellbeing Edge sat down with Kaleb Holden , Director of APAC at NetDocuments , to unpack what’s really keeping legal professionals up at night in the age of AI. And surprisingly? It’s not just the technology itself. It’s: → information overload → governanc...
RelFest26 Georgia Foster 18.05.2026 9:00
🎙️ AI isn’t slowing down. Neither is legal tech. At 𝗥𝗲𝗹𝗙𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝟮𝟲 𝗦𝘆𝗱𝗻𝗲𝘆 by Relativity , Jonathan Seifman sat down with Georgia Foster , Managing Director and VP Sales, to discuss how AI is reshaping legal workflows, client expectations, and the future of the industry. 💡 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘀: ↳ Legal teams are under increasing pressure to move faster and do more with less ↳ AI adoption is no longer a future...
FLENA Conference Max Paterson 17.05.2026 14:36
🎙️ “𝗣𝗿𝗲𝗰𝗲𝗱𝗲𝗻𝘁𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘄𝗮𝘆 𝗼𝘂𝘁.”At Family Law Education Network Conference, David Woolstencroft sat down with Max Paterson - Co Founder and CEO of Smartnote to explore how AI is transforming legal workflows — from file notes and drafting to pricing models and client communication. After co-founding Settify and later returning to family law practice, Max saw a problem every lawyer knows too well...
Humans still buy from humans - Marriott Murdoch 14.05.2026 29:42
🎙️ “Humans still buy from humans.” In this episode of People in Legal, Tim Kenney sat down with Marriott Murdoch, COO of Legacy Capital Fund, to unpack the evolving relationship between legal tech, private equity, and growth. From remodelling bathrooms at NetDocuments… to leading Latin America expansion… to private equity investment strategy — Marriott’s journey through legal technology has been a...
LawFest2026 Manraj Singh Rahi 13.05.2026 7:55
🎙️ 𝗔𝗜 𝗺𝗮𝗸𝗲𝘀 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗰𝗵 𝗲𝗻𝗷𝗼𝘆𝗮𝗯𝗹𝗲 𝗮𝗴𝗮𝗶𝗻 At LawFest 2026, David sat down with Manraj from LawCyborg to explore how AI is reshaping legal and tax research — helping professionals get to answers faster, serve clients better, and build deeper niche expertise. 💡 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀: ↳ AI allows practitioners to spend less time researching — and more time advising ↳ Faster access to information means better res...
RelFest26 Sydney - Phil Saunders 11.05.2026 6:52
🎙️ “Getting it perfect is required.” At #RelFest26 Sydney by Relativity, our host Jonathan Seifman sat down with Phil Saunders, CEO of Relativity, to unpack how AI is reshaping high-consequence legal workflows around the world. 💡 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀: ↳ Legal isn’t a “late adopter” industry — the complexity simply demands higher standards ↳ AI in legal is about more than productivity — it’s about accura...
Legal Innovation & Tech Fest - Ziggy Cheng 10.05.2026 6:46
🎙️ The best AI tool is useless if nobody knows how to use it. At Legal Innovation & Tech Fest, David sat down with Ziggy from Thomson Reuters to unpack one of the biggest challenges facing the legal industry right now: 👉 AI adoption. 💡 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀: ↳ AI training isn’t one-and-done — continuous learning is critical ↳ Even great AI tools fail without proper adoption and support ↳ Information...
AML for Law Firms: Risks, Reality and Opportunities with APLYiD 07.05.2026 38:23
Anti-Money Laundering (AML) obligations are here for Australian law firms, but the reality is far less chaotic than many expect. In this episode of Law and Beyond , host Chantal McNaught is joined by Russell Smith and Toby Taylor from APLYiD to break down what AML actually means for small and mid-tier firms, what happens when firms get it wrong, and why this moment presents a genuine opportunity t...
Legal Innovation & Tech Fest - Ryan Zahrai 07.05.2026 7:09
🎙️ “𝟰𝟬% 𝗼𝗳 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸 𝗶𝘀𝗻’𝘁 𝗯𝗶𝗹𝗹𝗮𝗯𝗹𝗲.”At LEGAL INNOVATION & TECH FEST, our host Roni Millard, Founder and Health & Wellness Consultant at The Wellbeing Edge, sat down with Ryan Zahrai, CEO of Parachute, to unpack why so many SME law firms are still being overlooked in the AI conversation. After years in Big Law and running his own practice, Ryan saw the same problem over and over:👉 Small...
RelFest26 Sydney - Professor Michael Legg 04.05.2026 9:25
🎙️ AI won’t replace lawyers. But it will reshape what they do. At RelFest 26 Sydney, Jonathan sat down with Professor Michael Legg from UNSW to explore how legal education — and the profession itself — is evolving in the age of AI. 💡 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀: ↳ Law schools still need to teach core legal fundamentals — that doesn’t change ↳ But students now also need technical awareness and AI literacy ↳ The...
FLENA Conference Lara Wentworth 30.04.2026 13:52
🎙️ The future of law isn’t just about AI. It’s about people. At the Family Law Education Network conference, David sat down with Lara Wentworth , Co-founder & Director of Coaching Advocates , former lawyer turned leadership coach, to unpack what’s really changing inside law firms. 💡 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀: ↳ The biggest challenges in law firms today aren’t technical — they’re human ↳ Mid-tier firms of...
LawFest26 David Wybourne 27.04.2026 14:11
🎙️ You can’t choose the right tech if you don’t know where you’re going. At the conference, David sat down with an advisor working closely with mid-market law firms navigating growth, margin pressure, and the shift toward new ways of working. 💡 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀: ↳ Many firms don’t actually know their current tech stack or capabilities ↳ Shadow AI use is already happening — often without governance o...
Buying ai software is NOT a strategy - Chad Ergun 23.04.2026 37:17
In this episode of People in Legal, Tim Kenney sits down with Chad Ergun, CIO of Womble Bond Dickinson (US) LLP, to unpack what law firms are getting right… and wrong… when it comes to AI. 💡 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀: ↳ Don’t start with tools — start with policy, security, and client obligations ↳ Your data needs to be ready — otherwise AI won’t deliver value ↳ Prompting isn’t enough anymore — it’s about con...
FLENA Conference Colin Jowell 22.04.2026 17:28
🎙️ A single missed bill took 9 months to fix. At FLENA Conference, David sat down with applied behavioural scientist and founder Colin Jowell to unpack a problem most families only face when it’s already too late. 💡 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀: ↳ A will doesn’t capture the full picture of someone’s life ↳ The real gap? Everything between legal, financial, and personal information ↳ Families can spend 200–300 h...
People in Legal Host Series: Jonathan Seifman 20.04.2026 20:25
At People in Legal, we sat down with Jonathan Seifman to unpack what’s really holding legal tech companies back from growth. 💡 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘆𝘀: ↳ Growth often stalls because of product–market fit, not sales execution ↳ A strong free product can actually limit revenue growth if there’s no upgrade path ↳ Expanding into APAC requires localisation, not replication ↳ Hiring more salespeople won’t solve th...
LawFest26 Hayley Leung 20.04.2026 8:31
🎙️ AI isn’t the hard part. Cutting through the noise is. At the conference, we caught up with Hayley, Lead Solutions Expert at NetDocuments, to unpack what’s actually happening inside law firms when it comes to AI adoption. 💡 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀: ↳ The biggest challenge isn’t AI — it’s too many tools and where to begin ↳ Embedding AI into existing systems (like DMS) is key to adoption + security ↳ Juni...
Turning Your Law Firm Into a Scalable Business with Gordon Tian 16.04.2026 35:22
Subscribe to get updates on our latest episodes. Are you running a law firm, or did you just create a high-pressure job for yourself? Most lawyers are brilliant at the law but were never trained to be CEOs. In this episode of the Law and Beyond show, host Chantal McNaught sits down with Gordon Tian —barrister and solicitor, chartered accountant, and founder of Law Firm Profit Success . Gordon shar...
FLENA Conference Leigh McBean 14.04.2026 14:08
🎙️ “How do you pay legal fees… when all your money is tied up?” It’s a question most people don’t think about — until they’re in it. In this conversation with Leigh from JustFund, we unpack a hidden pressure point in family law and estates that impacts real people, every single day. 💡 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀: ↳ The biggest issue isn’t always lack of assets — it’s lack of access to cash ↳ 75% of clients are...
People in Legal Host Series: Tim Kenney 14.04.2026 15:28
🎙️ Expanding into the US legal tech market? It’s not a lift-and-shift. We’re excited to welcome Tim as a new host on People in Legal — bringing over 30 years of experience across legal tech, partnerships, and global go-to-market strategy. In this episode, Tim shares what most companies get wrong when entering new markets: 💡 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀: ↳ What works in the UK or Australia won’t simply translate...
The ROI of Showing Up: How to Master the Legal Conference Circuit 10.04.2026 39:43
What happens when a leading authority on value-based pricing gets frustrated in a pub? He builds a global platform for the legal industry in under six weeks. In this episode of the Law and Beyond Show, host Chantal McNaught sits down with Shaun Jardine , the "feathered" founder of Legal Gigs and author of Ditch the Billable Hour . Shaun shares the journey of mapping over 380 Business of...
Why you don't want to miss The LEGAL INNOVATION & TECH FEST 2026 10.04.2026 7:30
🎙️ 𝟮𝟴–𝟮𝟵 𝗔𝗽𝗿𝗶𝗹 — 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗶𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝗶𝗻𝗱𝘂𝘀𝘁𝗿𝘆 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘀 𝘁𝗼𝗴𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿. The LEGAL INNOVATION & TECH FEST 𝗔𝘂𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗮 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟲 is just around the corner, bringing together legal professionals, tech leaders, and innovators across the industry. We caught up with Anna Turner ahead of the event to talk about what’s top of mind this year — 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺 𝗔𝗜 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗲𝘃𝗼𝗹𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗽𝗿𝗶𝗰𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝗲𝗹𝘀 𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗳𝘂𝘁𝘂𝗿𝗲 𝘀𝗸𝗶𝗹𝗹𝘀 𝗹𝗮𝘄𝘆𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝗮𝗰𝘁𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗹...
FLENA Conference 🎙️ David Lisitsa 10.04.2026 13:29
🎙️ 𝗠𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗳𝗶𝗿𝗺𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲𝗻’𝘁 𝘀𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗴𝗴𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗔𝗜. 𝗧𝗵𝗲𝘆’𝗿𝗲 𝘀𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗴𝗴𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘄𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗮𝗹𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗱𝘆 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲. At the Family Law Education Network Conference, David Woolstencroft sat down with David Lisitsa from NewLaw.com to talk about what’s actually happening inside law firms right now — beyond the AI headlines. 💡 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀: ↳ Many firms are still running on 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗰𝘆 𝘀𝘆𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗺𝘀 that don’t integrate with modern workf...
LawFest 2026 Dan Page 06.04.2026 4:25
🎙️ Still spending hours manually preparing court bundles? There’s a better way. At People in Legal, we sat down with Dan Page from Bundledocs at LawFest 26 to unpack how document bundling is quietly transforming legal workflows. Because in law… time isn’t just money. It’s margin, capacity, and client experience. 💡 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀: ↳ Document bundling doesn’t need to be manual — automation can save...
Why This Mediator Wears a Hoodie with Ryan McLaughlin 02.04.2026 32:29
“The incentive structure rewards conflict, not resolution.”In this episode of the Law and Beyond Show on People in Legal, Chantal McNaught engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Ryan McLaughlin , founder of Flannel People Mediation . Ryan shares his journey from traditional law practice to establishing a human-centered mediation approach, emphasizing the importance of authenticity and em...
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