Keith J. Barnett, Carlin A. McCrory, Troutman Pepper Locke, Jason M. Cover

Payments Pros – The Payments Law Podcast

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Payment processors, money transmitters, financial institutions, lenders, and other financial technology businesses face increasing scrutiny from regulators, as well as heightened consumer expectations. Troutman Pepper Locke's Payments Pros podcast features insights from our attorneys and business leaders, regulatory experts, and stakeholders on the most challenging legal and regulatory concerns confronted by companies and others in the payments industry. From the BSA to EFTs, fintech to regtech, licensure to lending, Nacha to the CFPB, and payment processing to debt collecting, we have you cov...

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Keith J. Barnett, Carlin A. McCrory, Troutman Pepper Locke, Jason M. Cover

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Jul 8, 2026

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Episodes

Payments Compliance and the FTC's Focus on Subscription Practices 08.07.2026

In this episode of Payments Pros , host Keith Barnett examines a recent FTC enforcement action involving alleged violations of the FTC Act and ROSCA. Keith discusses the FTC's continued focus on negative option features, automatic renewals, subscription disclosures, free trial conversions, and cancellation practices, and explains why these issues remain important for companies operating in the pay...

Regulating Prediction Markets: Federal Oversight, State Authority, and the Road Ahead 17.06.2026

In this crossover episode of Payments Pros and Regulatory Oversight , Stephen Piepgrass and Keith Barnett provide an update on the fast-developing prediction markets landscape. They discuss how federal and state regulators are responding to the growth of event contracts and the legal questions surrounding this emerging market. The conversation highlights the CFTC's continued focus on oversight, ma...

The Debanking Debate: Regulators, Risk, and Reality for Payments 28.05.2026

In this special crossover episode of Payments Pros and The Consumer Finance podcasts, Carlin McCrory , Keith Barnett , and Chris Willis explore the federal government's increasing attention to “debanking” and what it means for payment processors, money transmitters, banks, and other financial services providers. They discuss recent federal initiatives and agency activity that have heightened scrut...

Point-of-Sale Finance Series: Evolving Collection Rules Impacting Creditors 07.05.2026

In this joint episode of Payments Pros and The Consumer Finance Podcast , guest host Taylor Gess is joined by Stefanie Jackman to discuss amended debt collection regulations and restrictions for creditors, including tight communication limits and enhanced validation requirements. The conversation dives into the rise of coerced debt statutes, shortcomings of traditional identity theft frameworks, a...

Point-of-Sale Finance Series: Fair Lending Risks at the Checkout Counter 23.04.2026

In this special joint episode of Payments Pros and The Consumer Finance Podcast , guest host Taylor Gess joins Chris Willis and Lori Sommerfield to unpack fair lending risks in point-of-sale finance. They explain how traditional fair lending concepts under the Equal Credit Opportunity Act and Fair Housing Act play out when merchants interact directly with consumers, highlighting risks around disco...

Before You Front the Funds: Benefits and Pitfalls of Earned Wage Access Tools 02.04.2026

In this episode of Payments Pros , host Carlin McCrory teams up with Hiring to Firing hosts Tracey Diamond and Emily Schifter to explore the emerging world of earned wage access (EWA), or on-demand pay, through the lens of the reality TV show Shark Tank . They examine the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau's evolving approach, rapidly developing (and sometimes conflicting) state laws, and the wa...

Beyond the Buzzwords: Building Bank-Fintech Partnerships That Survive Exams 18.03.2026

In this episode of Payments Pros , host Carlin McCrory is joined by Marissa Tartarini of Elliott Davis to explore how banks can build sustainable, scalable fintech partnerships in a shifting regulatory environment. They begin with the foundational risk questions banks should ask before choosing a partner — speed to market, in-house expertise and gaps, strategic fit, and risk appetite — then turn t...

Trading, Gambling, or Something Else? Prediction Markets and the Payments Puzzle 25.02.2026

In this crossover episode, Payments Pros host Keith Barnett teams up with Regulatory Oversight host Stephen Piepgrass to unpack how prediction markets, gaming, and payments intersect in a rapidly evolving and legally uncertain landscape. Drawing on Keith's extensive regulatory experience, they explain what prediction markets are, why these contracts are treated as swaps rather than securities, and...

Payments Year in Review 2025: Federal and State Developments – Part 2 11.02.2026

In the second installment of the two-part Payments Year in Review series, hosts Keith Barnett, Carlin McCrory, and Jason Cover focus on the state-level developments that shaped the 2025 payments landscape and will influence 2026. They begin with buy now, pay later (BNPL) and earned wage access (EWA), explaining how the CFPB's rollback of its BNPL rule has prompted states like New York to regulate...

Payments Year in Review 2025: Federal and State Developments – Part 1 28.01.2026

In the first installment of a two-part Payments Year in Review series, hosts Keith Barnett, Carlin McCrory, and Jason Cover highlight the key federal developments that shaped the payments industry in 2025 and preview what's ahead for 2026. They cover the evolving status of the CFPB's payday lending rule, shifting BSA/AML enforcement from federal agencies to increasingly active state regulators, an...

Point-of-Sale Finance Series: Health Care Financing Compliance, Regulatory, and Privacy Pitfalls 15.01.2026

In this crossover episode of Payments Pros and The Consumer Finance Podcast , guest host Taylor Gess dives into the rapidly evolving world of point-of-sale financing for medical and dental procedures with Troutman Pepper Locke Partners Jason Cover, Brent Hoard, and Erin Whaley. They unpack how HIPAA, business associate relationships, and information-sharing structures can impact financing programs...

Point-of-Sale Finance Series: Solar Finance Under the Microscope 04.12.2025

In this crossover episode of Payments Pros and The Consumer Finance Podcast , Jason Cover, Mark Furletti, and Andrew Thurmond return to unpack the complex landscape of residential solar finance. They highlight practical complications lenders face with home improvement projects involving power purchase agreements, leases, tax credit, retail installment contracts, renewable energy certificates, and...

Point-of-Sale Finance Series: Understanding the Development and Regulation of Buy Now, Pay Later Products 14.11.2025

In this crossover episode of Payments Pros and The Consumer Finance Podcast , guest host Taylor Gess is joined by Jason Cover and Jeremy Sairsingh to discuss buy now, pay later (BNPL) products as they continue to dive into the Point-of-Sale Finance Series. They highlight the complexities of BNPL offerings and the transformation of these payment models with varying fee structures and repayment term...

Point-of-Sale Finance Series: Banking on Lending Models 29.10.2025

In this crossover episode of Payments Pros and The Consumer Finance Podcast , Chris Willis, Jason Cover, and Taylor Gess discuss licensed lending and bank model lending programs. This conversation dives into the benefits, challenges, and regulatory landscapes that shape these popular lending models for financial institutions and fintechs. Consumer finance providers will gain valuable insights on s...

The Future of Bank-Fintech Collaborations in Digital Finance 15.10.2025

In this special crossover episode of The Crypto Exchange and Payments Pros podcasts, hosts Ethan Ostroff and Carlin McCrory, along with James Stevens, co-leader of Troutman Pepper Locke's Financial Services Industry Group, explore the dynamic landscape of partnerships between financial institutions and digital asset firms. They discuss the increasing demand for payment enablement, highlighting how...

The 1033 Shake-Up: CFPB's New Rulemaking Adventure 30.09.2025

In this episode of Payments Pros, Carlin McCrory is joined by colleague Kim Phan to discuss the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau's (CFPB) recent developments regarding Section 1033 of the Consumer Financial Protection Act (CFPA). This summer, the CFPB initiated a new rulemaking process, inviting industry comments on its final rule concerning personal financial data rights. With a deadline of O...

Wage Wonders: Unraveling Payroll Mysteries With Nacha and State Insights 17.09.2025

In this episode of Payments Pros, Keith Barnett discusses the complex interplay between payroll processing, Nacha rules, and state labor laws. Building on previous discussions about earned wage access (EWA), Keith examines common issues such as duplicate payments and overpayments, highlighting the importance of adhering to Nacha rules and state-specific labor laws. He explains how erroneous entrie...

Paddle's Payment Predicament: Unpacking FTC's Compliance Crackdown 02.09.2025

In this episode of Payments Pros , hosts Keith Barnett and Carlin McCrory examine the recent $5 million settlement between the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) and Paddle.com, a UK-based payment processor. The discussion centers on the FTC's allegations against Paddle for violating the Restore Online Shoppers' Confidence Act (ROSCA) and the Telemarketing Sales Rule (TSR). Paddle's practice of aggreg...

Enhancing Card Partnerships and Compliance: A Conversation With Matthew Goldman 19.08.2025

In this episode of Payments Pros , Carlin McCrory is joined by Matthew Goldman, founder of Totavi, LLC and publisher of CardsFTW , to discuss operational compliance for card issuers. Their conversation highlights essential practices for maintaining compliance, such as tracking transactions and monitoring systems effectively. Carlin and Matthew examine the complexities of card programs, identifying...

Under the Radar: DOJ's Data Security Rules and Their Impact on Payments Companies 05.08.2025

In this episode of Payments Pros , Carlin McCrory is joined by Pete Jeydel, a partner in the firm's White Collar Litigation + Investigations Practice Group, to discuss the new Department of Justice (DOJ) Data Security Program (DSP), which took effect earlier this year. The DSP, administered by the DOJ's National Security Division, aims to enhance protection for sensitive personal data linked to U....

Regulatory Rollback: Legal Challenges and Opportunities in Earned-Wage Access 24.07.2025

In this special joint episode of The Consumer Finance Podcast and Payments Pros , Chris Willis, co-leader of Troutman Pepper Locke's Consumer Financial Services Regulatory Practice, is joined by Keith Barnett and Jason Cover from the Payments Pros podcast, along with Troutman Pepper Locke Consumer Financial Services Partner Mark Furletti. They discuss the future of earned-wage access (EWA) product...

From Banks to FinTech: The Evolution of Small Business Lending 09.07.2025

In this special crossover edition of the Payments Pros and Consumer Finance podcasts, Carlin McCrory and Jason Cover are joined by their colleague Caleb Rosenberg to explore the evolving landscape of small business financing. They highlight the significant growth in diverse financing products and providers, which have expanded funding access for small businesses, particularly startups. The discuss...

Navigating Elder Fraud: Challenges and Legal Trends in Payment Systems 18.06.2025

In this episode of Payments Pros , Carlin McCrory is joined by Mary Zinsner, a partner in the Consumer Financial Services Practice Group, to explore the increasing litigation trends in the payments industry, with a focus on elder fraud and financial exploitation. Mary provides valuable insights into how these fraud cases frequently involve diverse payment systems, such as wire transfers and electr...

Understanding MALPB Charters: A Collaborative Approach to Banking Innovation 04.06.2025

In this episode of Payments Pros , Carlin McCrory welcomes Melissa Sneed from the Georgia Department of Banking and Finance and James Stevens, co-leader of Troutman Pepper Locke's Financial Services Industry Group, to explore Merchant Acquirer Limited Purpose Bank (MALPB) charters. Melissa, the deputy commissioner for supervision, outlines the application process for obtaining a MALPB charter, emp...

Welcoming a New Payment Pro: Jason Cover Joins the Payments Pros Podcast 21.05.2025

In this episode of Payments Pros , Carlin McCrory introduces Jason Cover as a new co-host. Jason, a partner in Troutman Pepper Locke's Consumer Financial Services practice, brings extensive knowledge in consumer lending and payments laws. He advises clients on electronic payments, online small business lending, electronic consents, contracts, disclosures, and recurring payment methods. As a fintec...

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