Shawn Austin Johnson
Pay or Quit
the podcast for entrepreneurs and business owners ready to face the raw truth of what it takes to succeed. Host Shawn Austin Johnson goes beyond polished success stories to explore the real, often messy, and challenging aspects of business ownership. This podcast is for those who feel isolated in their entrepreneurial journey, battle imposter syndrome, or face burnout. Shawn offers candid insights and isn't afraid to tackle tough conversations on what truly matters in business. Expect in-depth discussions, spicy takes, and interviews with guests who aren't afraid to confront the hard questions...
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Shawn Austin Johnson
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Jun 8, 2026
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Episodes
In and Out of Foster Care to CEO: I Broke the Patterns of My Past | Tristian Clark 08.06.2026 1:18:22
Send us Fan Mail 22-year-old entrepreneur and owner of Clark Construction, Tristan Clark. He's building a business to be proud of while coming from an almost impossible home life. Tristan Clark shares the challenges he overcame to get to where he is. From foster care, running from the police at age 8, to a shooting with prison on the horizon, to now flipping houses, building a rental portfoli...
Build Wealth the Smart Way | Aaron Robertson 16.02.2026 24:45
Send us Fan Mail In this episode, we dive into the core principles of achieving success through sheer hard work and unwavering discipline. We explore the powerful mindset required to overcome obstacles and maintain consistent hustle, drawing inspiration from various entrepreneurial journeys. This discussion provides practical motivation for anyone looking to elevate their work and reach their goal...
Flipping Houses at Scale Not Lifting A Hammer | Sam Eddinger 10.11.2025 28:44
Send us Fan Mail In this episode, we dive into the strategic insights of a seasoned real estate investor and property manager. He shares valuable lessons on the importance of starting early, holding properties for the long term, and developing successful partnerships. The discussion covers scaling a house flipping business, leveraging property management resources, and employing effective financia...
Why most businesses never break through (until they learn this) | Ben Serven 03.11.2025 42:44
Send us Fan Mail Ben Serven, the founder of Black Sheep Global, discusses the transformative power of process optimization and automation in property management. Learn how to document, implement, and automate processes for long-term business growth, the importance of creating a positive company culture, and how to overcome common obstacles in adopting new technologies. Ben also shares insights int...
What Does Social Media and Monopoly have in Common? | Barrett Freeman 27.10.2025 30:19
Send us Fan Mail Building and Leveraging Social Media for Real Estate Success - "I control 8% of all Facebook Traffic in Kentucky" In this episode, Barrett Freeman, an insurance attorney, property manager, and avid real estate investor, shares insights on building a robust social media presence for real estate ventures. Barrett explains how he acquired Facebook groups to instantly boost...
Black Hawk Helicopter Pilot to Business Ownership | Jason Santiago 29.09.2025 1:08:41
Send us Fan Mail From Combat Pilot to Gym Owner: Jason Santiago's Journey of Service and Entrepreneurship Join us in this episode of Pay or Quit as we sit down with Jason Santiago, a former Black Hawk helicopter pilot and military veteran, who has transformed his life from flying high-stakes missions to tackling the challenges of entrepreneurship and fitness. Jason shares invaluable lessons o...
Is outbound sales right for you? | Ben Smith 15.09.2025 59:15
Send us Fan Mail Mastering Outbound Sales with Ben Smith In this episode, Shawn interviews Ben Smith, the founder of Bright Reach Sales, who has over seven years of experience in driving revenue through effective sales strategies. Ben shares his journey from insurance sales to founding Bright Reach, emphasizing the importance of outbound sales for business growth. He provides insights into overcom...
Your business is failing because of this 28.04.2025 7:10
Send us Fan Mail The dangers of becoming too comfortable in business, warning that complacency can lead to failure. A quick-fire challenge with five crucial questions to determine if your business is on the path to growth or just surviving. Topics include systematizing and delegating, regular price adjustments, focusing on strategic work, taking calculated risks, and planning an exit strategy. Sea...
Your Personal Brand Matters to Scale Your Business | Drea Buer 17.03.2025 1:00:13
Send us Fan Mail Mastering Social Media Branding with Drea Buer: Insights from Respect the Brand In this episode, Shawn welcomes Drea Buer, branding expert and founder of Respect the Brand. Drea shares her journey from various jobs to becoming a successful branding professional. The discussion covers the importance of personal branding, tips on content creation, leveraging social media platforms,...
Your Business is Worth $0 Until You Fix These 3 Things. Then it becomes irresistible! 11.03.2025 6:19
Send us Fan Mail Why Your Business Is Worth Nothing Until You Fix These Issues In this episode of the Payer Quit podcast, Shawn Austin Johnson discusses the harsh reality that many businesses are unsellable and essentially valueless until critical issues are addressed. Drawing from personal experience and examples, Shawn outlines three key strategies to transform a business into a sellable asset:...
The Heartbeat of Business Success | Peter Hernandez 24.02.2025 59:54
Send us Fan Mail Figure this out, and your business will thrive. In this episode of 'Pay or Quit,' host Shawn Austin Johnson dives deep into the real challenges of business and relationships with special guest Peter Hernandez, founder of mypmh.com. From discussing the importance of culture and relationships in business to navigating the toughest moments as an entrepreneur, this conversat...
The Most Powerful Wisdom I've Collected Over 12 Years 17.02.2025 19:21
Send us Fan Mail In this episode of Pay or Quit, I’m sharing the most powerful quotes I’ve collected over 12 years—wisdom that has shaped my journey as an entrepreneur. From legendary leaders to personal insights, these lessons will challenge your mindset, help you navigate risk, and push you toward financial and business success. Don’t just listen—take notes, apply the wisdom, and level up your e...
Two Practical Paths to Financial Freedom 10.02.2025 21:10
Send us Fan Mail Practical strategies for entrepreneurs to deploy their profits while growing their wealth. Shawn Johnson shares a recent mentoring session he had with a friend who sought his advice on a current financial decision he was facing and his mindsets and strategies needed to achieve financial freedom. He shares insightful anecdotes and actionable advice, including leveraging home equity...
Do you Have to Choose Between Success and Family? | Berenice Brito 03.02.2025 38:59
Send us Fan Mail Balancing Success: Career, Relationships, and Entrepreneurship with Berenice Brito Shawn Johnson, along with his guest, Berenice Brito, discuss the misconception that success in career and relationships can't coexist. Joined by guest Berenice Brito, a nurse turned coach, they explore overcoming limiting beliefs, the importance of setting boundaries, and sustainable business-b...
Transforming Financial Defaults into Intentional Design 06.01.2025 55:15
Send us Fan Mail To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Mastering Financial Freedom: The Intersection of Entrepreneurship and Personal Growth In this episode, Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson discuss the importance of financial education, personal growth, and overcoming a 'happenstance lifestyle.' They...
What It Takes To Be A Millionaire: 3 Principles to Becoming Rich 24.12.2024 39:04
Send us Fan Mail To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Mastering Mindset and Financial Discipline for Wealth Building A dive into essential principles for building and maintaining wealth. They discuss the importance of reshaping mindset, setting clear financial goals, and the power of compounding interest. T...
From Pastor to Entrepreneur: I Built a Thriving Business in a New Industry from Scatch | Cody Stovall 16.12.2024 46:41
Send us Fan Mail To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Scaling a niche entertainment business in multiple cities: Cody Stovall, a pastor who turned his passion for escape rooms into a thriving business. Cody shares the challenges he faced in opening venues, dealing with family business dynamics, and navigati...
Helicopter Sales CEO: How Grit Got Me to the TOP Disrupting an Industry | Halsey Schider 09.12.2024 49:50
Send us Fan Mail To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here From Professional Helicopter Pilot to Successful CEO Entrepreneur Halsey Schider shares his journey from being a professional helicopter pilot to founding Sellacopter, a breakout helicopter sales company that is disrupting the helicopter sales space, and...
Are You Making This Fatal Business Error That's Killing Your Business? 03.12.2024 30:53
Send us Fan Mail To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Why Small Businesses Fail: The Gritty Truth In this episode, Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson explore the common reasons why small businesses fail, drawing insights from a local restaurant's closure. They discuss the importance of leadership, customer e...
Master Delegation: Let Go of Control and See Your Business Scale 25.11.2024 30:44
Send us Fan Mail To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Mastering Delegation: From Tasks to Leadership In this episode, Tony Cline and Shawn Johnson discuss the importance of effective delegation for entrepreneurs, emphasizing the transition from managing everyday tasks to leading a team. Drawing on insights...
From Helicopter Pilot to Retired at 39 | Shawn Johnson 28.10.2024 39:40
Send us Fan Mail To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Shawn Johnson: Financial Freedom, Leadership, and Overcoming Entrepreneurial Challenges Exploring financial freedom, the journey from employee to entrepreneur, and the emotional trials of leadership. Insights on impactful leadership, personal growth, and...
Turning Trails into Triumph: How Courage Will Drive You Further Than Ever | Tony Cline 21.10.2024 36:34
Send us Fan Mail To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Redefining Success: Courage, Health, and Financial Wisdom with Tony Cline In this episode, Tony Cline delves into his redefined vision of success, emphasizing peace, morality, and quality of life. He shares his battle with celiac disease, detailing the m...
From Impossible to Achievable: A World Record Mindset | Chad Hymas 14.10.2024 44:47
Send us Fan Mail To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here Chad Hymas: Transforming Tragedy into Triumph In this thought-provoking episode, Chad Hymas shares his inspirational life story, beginning with a tragic accident that left him with severe disabilities. At the age of 27, a ranch mishap resulted in a broke...
Killing Complacency: From Alpaca Shearing to Real Estate Mogul | Marty Hofmann 07.10.2024 44:00
Send us Fan Mail To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here From Alpaca Shearing to Real Estate Investing and Beyond In this episode, Marty Hofmann shares his journey from an agricultural upbringing to becoming a serial entrepreneur with ventures in real estate investment and alpaca shearing. Emphasizing the impo...
Employee Retention Expert: Exact Formula So Your Employees Never Leave | Clint Pulver 30.09.2024 50:08
Send us Fan Mail To see if you're a fit for Shawn's exclusive Generational Wealth Framework for PMC owner's program: Schedule here The Secret to Workforce Retention: Clint Pulver’s ‘I Love it Here’ and the Power of Mentorship In this episode, Clint Pulver, Emmy Award winner, speaker, pilot, and author, discusses his book 'I Love It Here,' which reveals insights about effec...
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