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Pastors Talk - A podcast by 9Marks

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Pastors Talk is a weekly conversation between Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever about practical aspects of the Christian life and pastoral ministry.

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9Marks

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Religion

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Latest episode

Jun 2, 2026

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Episodes

Episode 140: A Conversation about Grace Community Church's Statement on Civil Disobedience 26.07.2020

Jonathan and Mark chat about Grace Community Church’s decision, civil disobedience, and how Christians ought to approach this season with an extra amount of charity and grace.

Episode 139: On Remembering J. I. Packer 22.07.2020

In this special episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman asks Mark Dever to reflect on his friendship with J. I. Packer.

Episode 138: On What if I Don't Desire to Pray (with John Onwuchekwa) 21.07.2020

As Christians, we know we should pray. But too often, we fail to because we simply don’t desire to.

Episode 137: On What If I Don't Feel Like Going to Church (with Gunner Gundersen) 14.07.2020

Sadly, missing church is common. Sometimes, it's for good reasons; other times, it's not. As a pastor, how many times have you heard a member tell you, "I'm so sorry we missed last Sunday—we just couldn't make it with everything we have going on!"? In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever and Gunner Gundersen about how we should respond to those who simply don't feel...

Episodes 136: On Pastors and Social Media 07.07.2020

Many pastors feel pressure from their members to speak up on social media. “Why aren’t you talking about ___________? Don’t you care?” In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever about how pastors ought to approach social media use.

Episode 135: On Shepherding: The Work and Character of a Pastor 30.06.2020

In this Pastors Talk episode, Jonathan chats with Mark about the new 9Marks Journal: On Shepherding — The Work and Character of a Pastor. They focus on three traits of a pastor: — They should be godly & gifted, but especially godly. — They should care about other churches. — They shouldn’t freak out.

Episode 134: On the Difference between Revival and Revivalism 23.06.2020

In his book Revival & Revivalism, Iain Murray defines revival as God using ordinary means to effect extraordinary change. That’s much different than revivalism, which is when man tries to use extraordinary means to effect the same, extraordinary change. Can you tell the difference between the two? Is it even possible? In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan asks Mark to take a brief tour of chur...

Episode 133: On Why Should I Join a Church? 16.06.2020

Have you ever met a growing Christian who is self-consciously choosing not to join a church? In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever about the vital necessity of joining a local church. For more on this topic, check out Mark’s new mini-book in the Church Questions series: "Why Should I Join a Church?"

Episode 132: On Teaching Your Church about Issues Related to Race (with Jeff Brown, James Miles, and Mark Vroegop) 09.06.2020

Should pastors try to educate their church about issues related to race and racism? If so, how? In this Pastors’ Talk episode, Jonathan Leeman chats with three staff members of College Park Church—Mark Vroegop, Jeff Brown, and James Miles—about what they’ve done, how they’ve done it, and why the journey is worth whatever difficulties it brings.

Episode 131: On Pastoring Amidst National Trauma (with Garrett Kell) 05.06.2020

The past few weeks have been hard. People are grieving and angry, scared and confused. How should pastors lead and love their people during a national trauma? Jonathan Leeman and Garrett Kell discuss.

Episode 130: On How Can I Love Church Members with Different Politics (with Andy Naselli) 02.06.2020

Conversations about politics are often emotionally charged. We disagree because our consciences are calibrated differently. So how can we still love each other? Mark Dever, Jonathan Leeman, and Andy Naselli discuss.

Episode 129: On Principles to Consider as We Gather Again 26.05.2020

As churches move toward gathering again, there are lots of principles to consider. One of the most important—and one of the least talked about—is the difference between what’s a church and what’s not a church. Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman discuss in this Pastors’ Talk episode.

Episode 128: On When Elders Disagree (with Matt Schmucker) 19.05.2020

In this episode of Pastors' Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever and Matt Schmucker about what to do when elders disagree.

Episode 127: On Character Matters (with Aaron Menikoff) 12.05.2020

A few years ago, someone told pastor Aaron Menikoff that he was too harsh. The Holy Spirit took that feedback, and sparked in Aaron a fresh desire to pursue the fruit of the Spirit, which ultimately led to this new book: Character Matters. In this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever chat with Aaron about the importance of godly character in the life of all Christians, especial...

Episode 126: On When Should Churches Practice Civil Disobedience? (with Bobby Jamieson) 05.05.2020
Episode 125: On "What Should I Do Now That I'm a Christian?" (with Sam Emadi) 28.04.2020

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Episode 124: On The Case Against Multisite in One Assembly 21.04.2020

In the previous Pastors’ Talk episode, Jonathan and Mark chatted about why he wrote One Assembly and how he hopes the book will be received. In this episode, Mark asks Jonathan to make his best case from the Bible against multi-site and multi-service churches.

Episode 123: On Why We Pick the Multisite Fight in One Assembly 14.04.2020

Jonathan’s new book One Assembly argues against multi-site and multi-service churches. What motivated him to write a whole book on the topic? Isn’t this much ado about very little? In this episode of Pastors’ Talk, Mark chats with Jonathan about his new book, why he loves multi-site and multi-service pastors, and what he hopes the book will accomplish. Join the 9Marks community: GET THE APP: http:...

Episode 122: On Hell 07.04.2020

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Episode 121: On Pastoring Suffering People (with Andy Johnson) 31.03.2020

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Episode 120: On Shepherding Saints While Sheltered In Place (with Garrett Kell) 24.03.2020

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Episode 119: On When the Church Can't Gather 17.03.2020
Quick Take: What Should Churches Do About Coronavirus? 12.03.2020

In this Pastor's Talk mini-episode, Mark Dever discusses what pastors and churches should do in light of the Coronavirus pandemic.

Episode 118: On Spontaneous Baptisms (with Caleb Morell) 10.03.2020

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Episode 117: On the Connection Between Baptism & Church Membership 03.03.2020

It should be exceedingly rare to baptize someone apart from local church membership. In this episode of Pastors' Talk, Jonathan chats with Mark about the connection between the two. Join the 9Marks community: GET THE APP: http://9marks.link/app TWITTER: https://www.twitter.com/9Marks FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/9Marks INSTAGRAM: https://www.instragram.com/9Marks BOOKSTORE: https://www.9mark...

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