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Pastors Talk - A podcast by 9Marks

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Pastors Talk is a weekly conversation between Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever about practical aspects of the Christian life and pastoral ministry.

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9Marks

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Religion

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www.spreaker.com

Latest episode

Jun 2, 2026

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Episodes

Episode 165: On Overview Sermons 30.03.2021

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan chats with Mark about the value of preaching big chunks of texts, including whole books in one sermon.

Episode 164: On Pastoral Sabbaticals (with Jamie Dunlop) 16.03.2021

Are sabbaticals in the Bible? Are they . . . fair? (After all, what other profession gets them!) How should they be structured?

Episode 163: On Paying Pastors (with Jamie Dunlop) 09.03.2021

How much should churches pay their pastors? How can they even find the answer to that question? Should a pastor ever ask for a raise? Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever and Jamie Dunlop about these questions.

Episode 162: On Firing Church Staff 02.03.2021

Firing someone is almost always hard, perhaps especially in the church. In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan chats with Mark about this difficult topic, one that Mark says is a personal weakness of his.

Episode 160: On Raising Up Elders in a Growing Church 16.02.2021

In a growing church, nominating elders can be hard. After all, people might not know the man. They might never have heard him teach. So what’s a church to do? Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever about raising up elders as a church’s culture changes.

Episode 159: On How to Talk to Your Church About Leaving (with Hershael York) 09.02.2021

How transparent should pastors be with their congregation as they think about pursuing other jobs? As it turns out, Mark Dever and Hershael York offer different counsel on this. Jonathan Leeman chats with them about the wisdom of different approaches.

Episode 158: On Chairing an Elders Meeting (with Isaac Adams & Ken Barbic) 02.02.2021

There’s nothing in the Bible about who should chair—lead—elders’ meetings. But the role and responsibility of the elder chairman is nonetheless very important. Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever, Ken Barbic, and Isaac Adams.

Episode 157: On Why Should I Be Baptized? (with Bobby Jamieson) 26.01.2021

Surely you’ve heard someone ask, “But pastor, why should I be baptized?” In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever and Bobby Jamieson about that important question.

Episode 156: On How Pastors Should Prepare their People for Eternity 19.01.2021

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever about one of the pastor’s most important jobs: preparing his people for eternity.

Episode 155: On Remembering 2020 15.12.2020

This year has been hard, but now it’s finally (nearly) over. In this final Pastors Talk of 2020, Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever about the highs and lows of this particular year.

Episode 154: On A Bunch of Fun Biographies 08.12.2020

Are you looking for books to read this holiday season? Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever about a bunch of fun biographies.

Episode 153: On Caring for Members Unwilling to Come Back to Church (with Nathan Knight) 02.12.2020

Among the many things 2020 has made more complicated, chief among them is caring for members who are unwilling to come back to church.

Episode 152: On Virtual "Church" 24.11.2020

For years, certain churches and ministries have referred to “virtual church” or “attending church online.” This year of COVID-19—the “anti-gathering virus,” as Mark puts it in this episode—has made such phrases even more popular.

Episode 151: On How Much a Pastor Should Care About His Reputation 10.11.2020

Paul says pastors must be “well thought of by outsiders.” But Jesus says we’re “blessed” when others speak evil about us, even falsely. What do we do with this? How much should a pastor care about his reputation?

Episode 150: On Cleaning the Membership Rolls - Part 2 (with Matt Schmucker) 03.11.2020

Episode 149 explained what “cleaning the rolls” means, and why pastors should lead their churches to do it. Episode 150 continues the conversation, but focuses on how to actually get it done. Jonathan Leeman, Mark Dever, and Matt Schmucker discuss.

Episode 149: On Cleaning the Membership Rolls - Part 1 (with Matt Schmucker) 27.10.2020

Some churches report hundreds of members, with dozens in attendance. These churches need to “clean their rolls.” Jonathan Leeman chats with Mark Dever and Matt Schmucker about what that means and why churches should do it.

Episode 148: On How A Culture of Discipling + Lay Elders = Church Planting 20.10.2020

Healthy churches plant churches. But how? What causes a church to “bubble over”? Here’s one way.

Episode 147: On the Appeal and the Errors of Theonomy (with T. David Gordon) 13.10.2020

Broadly speaking, “theonomy” is the theological persuasion that civil societies ought to be governed by the Mosaic Law. In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever chat with T. David Gordon about the errors and appeal of theonomy.

Episode 146: On Preparing for a Tough Political Season (Part 2) 06.10.2020

We just released a new Journal: Pastoring through Political Turmoil. In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan chats with Mark about the Journal in particular and the topic of pastoring through an election season in general.

Episode 145: On Preparing for a Tough Political Season (Part 1) 29.09.2020

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark and Jonathan talk about how pastors can prepare their people for a tough political season.

Episode 144: On Lay Elders - Part 2 (with Klon Kitchen) 22.09.2020

How do you prevent a potential friction between staff and lay elders? How do you ensure they’re not just “yes men”? How much deference should non-staff elders give others? In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman, Mark Dever, and Klon Kitchen continue their conversation on lay elders.

Episode 143: On Lay Elders - Part 1 (with Klon Kitchen) 15.09.2020

Churches ought to have elders. Some will be paid (1 Tim. 5), but many will be not. These unpaid elders are called “lay elders.” Is this distinction in this Bible? Are lay elders “minor-league elders”? Are they called to ministry in the same way senior pastors are? How can a church make sure that there isn’t a deep divide between elders who are paid by the church and those who aren’t? In this episo...

Bible Talk — Genesis 1:1–3:19: On the Serpent, the Promised Seed, and Nahash the King of the Ammonites 09.09.2020

In this inaugural episode of Bible Talk, Alex Duke chats with Jim Hamilton and Sam Emadi about the first three chapters of Genesis. These first three chapters of the Bible are so important because they set the trajectory for everything that comes next—all the way until we get to Revelation 22. Bible Talk is available on iTunes, Spotify and 9Marks.org.

Episode 142: On Preparing for the Next Guy 08.09.2020
Episode 141: On The Life and Ministry of J. I. Packer 28.07.2020

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