PAFO - Pond Around and Find Out

Welcome to Girls in the City. What started as a PAFO spinoff quickly became something else entirely. With Chris away in Italy, Kurt and Zoë settle into the couch for an unfiltered conversation that somehow covers solo travel, dating, friendship, candy taste tests, Whitney Houston, dogs, TikTok tears, and the surprisingly deep philosophy behind what it actually means to be a "Girl in the City....

This week may be the most off-the-rails PAFO yet. Chris, Zoë, and KG somehow cover conspiracy theories, first dates, AI doing everyone dirty, and an article from across the pond that sends the entire conversation into a tailspin. If you've ever wondered how three people can spend over an hour getting from debating whether Stevie Wonder can actually see to bedroom activities from our neighbors...

This week on PAFO, the crew is settling into the newly renovated studio. Talking sponsorship opportunities and international travel plans, near-death experiences, and the ongoing debate over who is and isn't "in the know."KG recounts a terrifying highway encounter involving a flying tire, Chris had a close call with a falling tree branch and is convinced fate occasionally keeps peopl...

This week on PAFO, the gang is settling into the newly redesigned studio. Furniture updates and studio makeover talk quickly spirals into Grand Theft Auto debates, college drama, airport horror stories, TSA pat-downs, purity culture, and dirty cities rankings. Zoë shares one of the most memorable stories from her college years, reflecting on friendship, loyalty, chronic illness, and the moment she...

This week on PAFO, the crew catches up after a busy few weeks and covers everything from Italy trips and coffee shop drama to airport etiquette, conspiracy theories, private jets, and the strange emotional hangover that can follow a meaningful experience. Kurt shares stories from his recent film project in Northern California, including guerrilla-style filming on Napa highways, truck stop encounte...

On this episode of PAFO, the crew covers everything from studio upgrades and questionable Facebook Marketplace purchases to purity culture, dating, cheating, and the weird ways our past shapes how we see relationships today. What starts as a conversation about new chairs and a future couch quickly turns into a surprisingly thoughtful discussion about scarcity mindsets, childhood experiences, relig...

This week on PAFO, the conversation goes absolutely everywhere—and somehow circles back to birds, bowel emergencies, race cars, gambling, and getting peed on. The gang starts by reflecting on their emotional conversation with Kira Andersen before quickly veering into movie talk, bad acid trips, airport drug smuggling strategies, and the age-old question of whether a grown man should call his paren...

On Episode 19 of PAFO, the gang once again dives headfirst into the terrifying modern hellscape known as dating apps — and somehow ends up talking about happy ending massage parlors, foot rubs, secret high school boners, tequila-fueled first dates, and a Bumble interaction so wild it feels AI generated. KG breaks down an absolutely unbelievable dating app saga involving a woman who initially calle...

On Episode 18 of PAFO, Chris & KG break down their wrestling weekend and tell one of the most chaotic stories imaginable. What starts as Zoe’s all-day car disaster spirals into rental car problems, mystery wheel keys, AAA confusion, and a check engine light that somehow appears after the car is “fixed.”Meanwhile, Kurt and Chris recap an absolutely surreal weekend at an SICW wrestling fan fest...

This episode starts with a “big W” after KG and Zoë get the technical side of the podcast dialed in—though not without reliving the trauma of previous recording disasters. From there, the conversation immediately veers into wrestling nostalgia as the group talks about the upcoming guest appearance of Buff Bagwell and the physiques they envied growing up. Shawn Michaels, Buff Bagwell, and the heart...

The episode opens in chaotic fashion—mic issues and a guest introduction that takes a few detours before landing. Once things settle, Chris, Zoe, and KG welcome Charlie Marlow and quickly dive into a mix of NASCAR talk, media stories, and off-the-cuff banter.  The early conversation centers around NASCAR culture, including driver rivalries, fan reactions, and memorable moments—like Matt Kenseth’s...

Chris, Jeff, Zoë, and KG react to the first episode of PAFO Plus, where Iggy Strode reviews the PAFO crew after watching each week’s episode. Naturally, that leads to KG considering his own follow-up show where he reviews Iggy’s review show, which means PAFO may now be trapped in a podcast feedback loop forever. A review of a review of a show that already barely knows where it’s going? Sounds abou...

This week on PAFO, Chris, Jeff, Zoë, and KG sit down with Tim McKernan for a long conversation about radio, risk, audience loyalty, and what it takes to keep a show going over time. They talk about how PAFO found its voice, why some shows last and others don’t, and what Tim has learned from years of building in public. They also get into the mess of “1380 The Woman,” why ratings don’t tell the who...

This week on PAFO, the conversation starts loose and stays that way. The group gets into meds, allergies, barbecue, bad haircuts, and KG recovering from a brutal stomach bug before the episode turns toward heavier stuff. Chris talks about a hard week in the recovery community, the reality of loss, and why making space for families dealing with addiction and mental health actually matters. From the...

"Happy Chris, Happy Life" This episode of PAFO , the crew goes everywhere... Zoë talks about returning to social media and what that means for her mental health, the group gets into Easter weekend reflections, sports, dating-app chaos, honesty in intimacy, mall nostalgia, addiction, recovery, therapy, medication, and the kind of conversations most people usually avoid. It’s funny, messy,...

"Secret Cheeseburgers" This week on PAFO, the crew gets into the potty pedal fallout, Home Goods addictions, concerts, old school R&B, random compliments, phone mixups, and the kind of off the wall stories that somehow turn into real conversations. Chris, Jeff, Zoë, and KG bounce between funny nonsense and real life stuff, talking through sadness, family health stress, recovery, kind...

"Have I Told You About My Idea for the Potty Pedal?" This week on PAFO, the crew gets into old radio stories, wrestling talk, dating apps, weird first date energy, getting stood up, sending flowers too soon, TikTok, mansplaining, pet peeves, pop culture, sports, and a bunch of everyday annoyances that somehow turn into full blown debates. It has that loose Friday hang feel the whole way...

Kurt Garner is back, and this one covers a little bit of everything... dating, flirting, mixed signals, ghosting, rejection, body language, chemistry, and all the weird little ways people try to figure out whether somebody is actually into them or if they just talked themselves into it. Chris, Kurt, and Zoë get into first dates, awkward moments, physical touch, humor, vulnerability, and the differ...

"It's Hard to Be Curious and Well-Postured at the Same Time" Former NHL enforcer Cam Janssen joins Chris, Jeff, and Zoë on one of the busiest days of the hockey calendar, NHL trade deadline day, and delivers one of the most honest, wide-ranging, and genuinely hilarious episodes PAFO has ever put out. Cam has been one of the most recognizable faces in St. Louis hockey media since his playing days w...

"I Had to Jump Off the Roof of a Mexican Strip Club" PAFO | Featuring Kurt Garner Chris and Zoë are joined by Kurt Garner, co-host of TMA Radio in St. Louis and legacy interviewer at Sound Story, for a wide-ranging conversation about dating in recovery, attachment styles, app culture, and why sobriety doesn't just change your relationship with alcohol. It changes the entire pond you&...

This week on the show, we sit down with Lern from 105.7 The Point and KSHE 95 for a conversation that starts with Halloween chaos and somehow lands on grief, accountability, codependency, and the phrase “You Human Compost.” What unfolds is part radio industry deep-dive, part therapy session, part existential spiral — in the best way. Lern opens up about losing her dad at 21, carrying years of sham...

This week the crew covers everything from coffee cups that say “one day at a time” to whether bowling or mini golf should be legally banned as first dates. There’s strong stances on peeing strategy, Reddit rabbit holes, tipping culture, and why some dates require an emergency exit plan. Somewhere between Mardi Gras warnings (“Keep your shirt on. No drinks from strangers. Don’t pee outside.”) and d...

This one somehow swings from completely unhinged oversharing to genuinely powerful recovery talk without ever slowing down. The crew kicks things off with chaotic group-chat drama, bodily horror stories, and the kind of sentences that make you question whether microphones should legally exist—before pivoting hard into real conversations about boundaries, burnout, sleep, and what it actually takes...

Title: “I Dare a Mother****** to Try” Winter storm outside, Jeff missing in action, and Chris + Zoë running the “CNZ show” like two caffeinated goblins trapped in a snow globe. This episode starts with shoveling trauma and YouTube hater energy, then spirals into: kindness as a weapon, church-language culture wars,psych meds transparency, gout body-horror, and why “being curious” doesn’t mean you s...

Sponsored by: McKelvey Insurance LightSource Psychotherapy Another week, another descent into barely-controlled chaos with Chris, Zoë, and Jeff. This episode kicks off with busted mics and ends with some unexpected tenderness—but not before detouring through lactate enzyme math, email hoarding, biblical hookers, and deeply cursed impersonations. There’s family stuff, adoption stuff, insurance talk...