Michelle Kinder, M.Ed., LPC & Chris Kent Phelps | Produced By: Katie Worden
Oxygen for Educators™
Oxygen for Educators explores the overwhelming demands placed on today's educators, often leading to burnout and emotional exhaustion. As anxiety, depression, and behavior incidents rise among students, kids need more, and the adults in the building are overextended and under-resourced. This podcast features inspiring interviews with educators, administrators and counselors making a difference in the lives of countless students. In each hopeful conversation, we acknowledge hard truths and real challenges while simultaneously mining for light-lift, high-impact ideas, practices, and solutions.*O...
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Michelle Kinder, M.Ed., LPC & Chris Kent Phelps | Produced By: Katie Worden
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Jul 10, 2026
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Episodes
Nakia Douglas: Be Unapologetic About Your Light 10.07.2026 1:26:42
In this conversation, educator and community leader Nakia Douglas reflects on the people who believed in him, the power of community care, and why hope, purpose, and possibility matter in challenging times. He is a moving reminder that each of us has the power to transform lives by being unapologetic about our light. Opt in HERE for a complimentary subscription to the magazine. ( https://oxyge...
3 Vital Questions: What Actions Are You Taking? 03.07.2026 26:34
In this episode, Michelle Kinder unpacks the third vital question — what actions are you taking? — through the lens of "dynamic tension," the gap between where we are and where we want to be. She shares the three common ways people try to escape that tension (and why two of them backfire), plus a personal story of navigating a health crisis by focusing on "what's next" instead of certainty. Opt in...
Tina Payne Bryson: Cues of Safety in an Era of Dysregulation 26.06.2026 1:38:34
In a time marked by chronic stress, fear-based media, and nervous system overload, how do we create lives that feel steady, connected, and human? In this conversation, Tina Payne Bryson joins Michelle to explore cues of safety, co-regulation, play, predictability, and the small intentional practices that help adults stay grounded in difficult times. Together, they discuss why joy, laughter, commun...
3 Vital Questions: How Are You Relating? 19.06.2026 39:32
Most workplace drama isn't created by bad people. It's created by good people trying to navigate stress, uncertainty, frustration, and fear. In this episode, Michelle explores the second of The 3 Vital Questions: How are you relating? Drawing on the work of David Emerald and Donna Zajonc, she examines the Drama Triangle, the Empowerment Dynamic, and the ways we can become trapped in cycles of blam...
Jose Luis Vilson: What Makes an Educator a Professional? 12.06.2026 1:27:16
Episode Summary: José Luis Vilson is an educator, researcher, author, and longtime advocate for teacher voice and educational equity. In this conversation, we explore what professionalism in education really means, why relationships are foundational to learning, the emotional realities educators are navigating, and how schools shape not just academic outcomes, but our capacity for empathy, citizen...
3 Vital Questions: Where Are You Putting Your Focus? 05.06.2026 26:49
Many teams are exhausted not because people don't care, but because they're trapped in cycles of reactivity that feel productive but rarely create lasting change. In this first episode of a new three-part series on David Emerald and Donna Zajonc's 3 Vital Questions, Michelle explores how our focus shapes our inner state, our behavior, and ultimately the culture we create around us. This conversati...
Angie Gaylord: Leaving a Trail 29.05.2026 1:33:42
Dallas ISD Chief Academic Officer Angie Gaylord brings an unusually vibrant and deeply human approach to educational leadership. In this conversation, we explore what it means to "leave a trail" instead of simply following one — from failing forward and building psychological safety to leading through complexity with optimism, high expectations, and heart. Angie shares why she believes strong team...
Radical Hope: Building a Personal Mental Health Map 22.05.2026 26:18
In this final episode in the Radical Hope series, we explore the idea of building a personal mental health map, learning to recognize our patterns, protect what restores us, strengthen supportive relationships, and create lives that feel more connected, sustainable, and fully alive. Opt in HERE for a complimentary subscription to the magazine. ( https://oxygenforeducators.com/#read-the-magazin...
Kass and Cornelius Minor: Joy, Listening, and the Work of Becoming 15.05.2026 1:40:03
In this deeply human conversation, Kass and Cornelius explore what it means to teach—and live—as whole people inside systems that often make that difficult. Together, we talk about joy, listening, sustainability, identity, and the kind of community that helps both students and educators flourish. Opt in HERE for a complimentary subscription to the magazine. ( https://oxygenforeducators.com/#re...
Radical Hope: Holding Steady in a Tipping Point Era 08.05.2026 41:35
When everything feels like it's accelerating, toward uncertainty, fear, and fracture, what does it mean to hold steady? This episode explores how anchoring yourself, and becoming a source of steadiness for others, is not passive, it's a powerful way to navigate hard moments and shape what happens next. OPT IN FOR THE OXYGEN FOR EDUCATORS MAGAZINE: Opt in HERE for a complimentary subscription t...
Pernille Ripp: You Are Not the Whole Puzzle 01.05.2026 1:27:00
Most educators are trying to carry more than any one person can hold. Pernille Ripp explores what it means to be one meaningful part of a larger whole, and how letting go of over-responsibility can help you stay in the work without losing yourself. Pernille's Blog: https://pernillesripp.com/2026/04/03/reading-was-never-meant-to-compete/ Opt in HERE for a complimentary subscription to the magaz...
Radical Hope: Make Room for Joy and Play 24.04.2026 29:09
When the world feels heavy, joy and play can feel out of reach—or even inappropriate. This episode explores how small moments of lightness and freedom can shift our nervous system, expand our capacity, and keep us connected to what matters most. Opt in HERE for a complimentary subscription to the magazine. ( https://oxygenforeducators.com/#read-the-magazine) Visit the Oxygen for Educators websit...
Deb Dana: Befriending Your Nervous System 17.04.2026 1:38:11
If you've ever wondered why you can't access your patience, clarity, or purpose when it matters most—this episode explains why. In this conversation, Deb Dana brings her deeply influential work on the nervous system into everyday language, helping us understand ourselves and others with more compassion and ease. DEB DANA WEBSITE: https://www.rhythmofregulation.com/polyvagal-theory PERSONAL PROFIL...
Radical Hope: What Helps Us Stay 10.04.2026 17:14
Most of us aren't asking, "What is my purpose?" We're asking, "Does this matter—and how do I keep showing up when it's hard?" This episode explores where meaning actually lives, and how to stay connected to it in the middle of real life. Opt in HERE for a complimentary subscription to the magazine, or copy and paste this link: https://oxygenforeducators.com/#read-the-magazine Visit the ...
Dr. Rick Flores: From Detention to Doctorate 03.04.2026 1:31:23
As a child, Ricky Flores sometimes got detention on purpose — because staying after school meant he would get something to eat. What he didn't know then was that the teachers who saw him, believed in him, and pushed him would change the trajectory of his life. Today Dr. Rick Flores is a high school principal serving the very community where he grew up. In this conversation, he shares the educators...
Radical Hope: Belonging Without Shrinking 27.03.2026 24:33
We all want to belong. But in many environments, belonging can come with an unspoken cost: becoming slightly less yourself. In this episode, we explore the difference between fitting in and real belonging, why our nervous systems are wired to seek it, and how we stay connected without shrinking. Opt in HERE for a complimentary subscription to the magazine, or copy and paste this link: https...
Amanda Carroll The Case for Relational Leadership 20.03.2026 1:42:42
Supporting students means supporting the people who care for them. In this episode, we talk with counseling leader Amanda Carroll about what it means to be a caregiver of caregivers—and how relationships, perspective, and small daily practices help sustain educators doing emotionally demanding work. Opt in HERE for a complimentary subscription to the magazine, or copy and paste this link: h...
Radical Hope: Holding What Hurts Without Losing Yourself 13.03.2026 27:28
Sometimes we don't feel like ourselves — but nothing dramatic has happened. In this episode, we explore the quiet losses that shape us, the grief that hides beneath burnout and moral tension, and how resilience grows when we make space for what feels heavy. This isn't about getting over it. It's about letting what hurts deepen you without hardening you. Opt in HERE for a complimentary subscrip...
Alejandra Barbosa 06.03.2026 1:33:20
In this episode, we sit down with Alejandra Barbosa, CEO of The Educator Collective, to explore leadership, complexity, and why supporting the human behind the title may be the most important investment we can make in our schools. Educatorcollective.org Opt in HERE for a complimentary subscription to the magazine, or copy and paste this link: https://oxygenforeducators.com/#read-the-magazin...
Radical Hope: Spinning a Web of Support 27.02.2026 25:58
Self-care steadies us, but it was never meant to carry the whole load. In this episode, we explore community care, distributed strain, and how strengthening your web of support makes resilience sustainable. Opt in HERE for a complimentary subscription to the magazine, or copy and paste this link: https://oxygenforeducators.com/#read-the-magazine Visit the Oxygen for Educators website...
Zara Jones 20.02.2026 1:38:33
Join us for a conversation with 22-year-old Zara Jones, who brings an intergenerational lens to self-care, resilience, and how educator regulation shapes classroom culture. Visit Blossom With Zara HERE , or copy and paste this link: https://www.blossomwithzara.com/ Michelle's Reflective Questions to hold accountability: Where have you fused your worth with your output? What would it mean to sep...
Radical Hope: Co-Regulation-We Were Never Meant to Do This Alone 13.02.2026 22:31
Self-care matters — and it has limits. In this episode, we explore co-regulation, the science of shared safety, and why nervous systems were never meant to regulate in isolation. Opt in HERE for a complimentary subscription to the magazine, or copy and paste this link: https://oxygenforeducators.com/#read-the-magazine Visit the Oxygen for Educators website to learn more. https://oxy...
Dr. Lindsay Whorton 06.02.2026 1:29:52
What happens when school leadership jobs become impossible to do, well, no matter how capable the people holding them are? In this conversation, Michelle sits down with Lindsay Whorton, president of the Holdsworth Center and author of A New School Leadership Architecture , to explore why educators are burning out and how rethinking leadership structures, not just individual effort, can create more...
Chris and Michelle Talk 2026 30.01.2026 38:00
In this episode, Chris and Michelle share personal news and plans for 2026. Opt in HERE to receive your gifted print magazine at the mailing address of your choice. or Copy and Paste this link: https://forms.gle/V7YBXvHNmRNonpCw7 ------------------------ Visit the Oxygen for Educators website to learn more. https://oxygenforeducators.com/
Oxygen Replay - Amanda Muhammad, MA 23.01.2026 1:24:59
In this episode, Michelle Kinder and Chris Kent Phelps interview mindfulness-based stress management consultant Amanda Muhammad, exploring preventative self-care, psychological safety, nervous system regulation, and practical mindfulness tools that help educators shift perspective, honor boundaries, and cultivate meaning, well-being, and presence through breath, grounding, and intentional being. ...
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