Michael Kerr

Owner To Owner Podcast

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Owner to Owner is the boldest business podcast for Australia’s SMEs. Host Michael Kerr gets raw and real, talking to business owners like you. Exploring the everyday struggles they face and the different pathways they tread to success. Forget the slick stories of tech titans and out-of-reach solutions from people who’ve never put their hopes and livelihood on the line. Owner to Owner dives into the wins and losses, pitfalls, luck and moments that made a difference. You’ll find grit, laughs, maybe a few tears and hard-won lessons only available from others who’ve been where you are—whatever you...

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Michael Kerr

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Business

Latest episode

Jul 2, 2026

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Episodes

How Employee Ownership Reshapes Trust, Motivation, and Legacy in Small Business: Monica O’Malley 02.07.2026

Important Note for Listeners: This episode contains a discussion regarding mental health and the professional challenges—including suicidal ideation—faced by dental practitioners. We believe these conversations are vital for industry transparency and support. If you or someone you know is experiencing distress, please reach out to one of the following confidential, professional services: Dental Pr...

Designing a Business that Fits Your Lifestyle: Not the Other Way Around - Marie Carrillon 17.06.2026

Building a Purpose-Driven Business as a Mumpreneur with Marie Carillon In this episode, Marie Carillon , founder and podcast host of the Business Mum Compass, shares her insights into how mothers can create impactful, flexible businesses that align with their lifestyle and values. She emphasizes the importance of authenticity, personal branding, and clear definitions of success, especially in the...

Community Ownership Explained: How Rural Towns Can Save Essential Businesses: Matt Pfahlert 03.06.2026

Most rural communities are facing a critical crossroads: how to preserve essential local businesses when traditional ownership models are failing. What if communities could take ownership themselves—reclaiming their future one business at a time? Matt Pfahlert founder of Community Owned Australia , explains how regional communities can take a step towards buying and operating the assets they can't...

How not to leave money on the table when you sell your Business: Tony Brown from Divest Merge Acquire 07.05.2026

Most business owners dramatically underestimate what it takes to sell successfully—until it's finally too late.  @ Tony Brown founder of @ DMA is a seasoned expert in Australia's mid-market transactions. We talk about hidden pitfalls that lead to owners leaving money on the table, and the critical steps in preparing your business two years before selling.  We break down how owner dependence, cultu...

The other Circular Economy - hitting the road & making a living: folk rock duo - JC and the Tree 26.03.2026

Jacinta and Jesse from JC and the Tree have built their version of freedom, in music and in life. They have 3 years of touring Australia to prove it. From the road, gig by gig, they've had a a red hot crack at running a fully DIY music business while travelling Australia. This is a grounded look at what that actually takes: long drives, small crowds, constant admin, and making the numbers work thr...

A stronger SME economy, higher business productivity and broader wealth creation through Employee Ownership: Andy Farquharson. 11.02.2026

@Michael Kerr and @Andy Farquharson dive into #employeeownership Andy founded @abettermonday  and hosts the @alternativeexit podcast.  They discuss; Why Employee Ownership is such a viable exit strategy for small business owners  The benefits of EO for; How EO has the potential to bridge wealth disparities and enhance productivity The conversation also covers what's needed to increase the number o...

Acquired serendipitously, and then transformed: Rebecca Barnett's 154 year old Maldon Bakery acquisition. 28.01.2026

@Rebecca Barnett serendipitously acquired the @Maldon Bakery  The Bakery is 154 years old and also the oldest continuously running bakery in Australia. It's a hell of a legacy to take on! Find out how serendipity led her to this historic gem, her challenges in reviving its legacy, and the continuous improvement model that drives her success. From leveraging family history in baking to navigating t...

My small business is my superannuation: Nigel Purchase founder Chase Basketball 11.12.2025

@Michael Kerr talks with @Nigel Purchase founder of Chase Basketball. Nigel and his team have just celebrated a 25 year business birthday. A mighty fine effort for this #familybusiness .  Nigel is all in on his business. It's his passion, it's his superannuation and he still loves going to work! In the discussion Nigel reflects on the 25-year journey, talks about his still strong passion for coach...

From Corporate to Small Business Owner and back to Corporate: What Elise Heslop learned along the way. 03.12.2025

Host @Michael Kerr and guest @Elise Heslop talk through how and why Elise transitioned from a 'safe and secure' corporate role to life as an entrepreneur. After taking a family sabbatical in Italy, she founded Ply Room, a values-based furniture business. After she successfully sold Ply Room she's headed back to a new role in Corporate as Head of Marketing for @earlypay . A full circle with lots of...

Enhancing Business Value with Employee Ownership: Craig West Founder of Succession Plus 26.11.2025

In this compelling episode of "Owner to Owner," host Michael Kerr dives deep with Dr. Craig West, the visionary founder of Succession Plus. Together, they unpick the transformative power of employee ownership programs and their profound impact on business value and succession planning. Discover how and why these strategies not only enhance business resilience but also foster community well-being....

To grow your business be brave and get comfortable taking imperfect action, Gabe Villarreal 17.10.2025

@Gabe Villarreal founder, business buyer and business growth adviser on scaling a liquor business to a million dollars in monthly revenue. We discuss strategies for over coming the practical challenges of scaling and exiting businesses, as well as the merits of 'holding' businesses rather than selling.  He stresses the importance of imperfect action, learning from failures, and having options in b...

Juggling Passion and Financial Sustainability in the NFP Sector: Jacquie Riddell 01.10.2025

@Jacquie Riddell is an experienced #NFP leader and current chair of the @CBAA . The NFP or #ThirdSector is presenting huge challenges to leadership, employees and the many volunteers. Jacquie and host @Michael Kerr talk about; Financial sustainability Mergers & Acquisitions in the NFP sector The impact of overcrowding in the charity sector The need for adopting new and better business models and #...

Decoding AI: Strategies for Small Business Success: David Brudenell, Decidr. 18.09.2025

@Michael Kerr welcomes @David Brudenell Executive Director from @decidr.ai discuss the challenges and opportunities for Australian SMEs in adopting AI strategies.  They explore the National AI Readiness Index launched by Decidr,  the importance of system design, and how AI can transform small businesses. The conversation delves into the potential of AI to provide #SMEs with the equivalent of thous...

How to secure a better deal leasing or buying a commercial property: Vicki Likoudis from True North Buyer's Advocate 10.09.2025

@Michael Kerr speaks with @Vicki Likoudis from True North Buyers Advocates about the opportunities for tenants and buyers in favorable commercial property market cycle. Vicki sees the opportunity being available for another 6-9 months. They discuss how small business owners can take advantage of this cycle to negotiate a better lease or acquire a commercial property. It's a tenant's market right n...

Super charging the growth of employee owned Small Businesses, Stephen Greenwood, Global CEO, Valloop 27.08.2025

@Michael Kerr welcomes @Stephen Greenwood , Global CEO of @Valloop , and @Hunter Page , Australian Director of Valloop, to discuss the transformative power of employee ownership.  Valloop via its @platform is reshaping the landscape for SMEs, offering innovative solutions for business transitions, and empowering employees to become legitimate buyers. We talk about; The rise of employee ownership a...

The future of clean. EWater's Phil Gregory on building the worlds most sustainable cleaning solution. 20.08.2025

@Phil Gregory from @EWaterSystems joins host @Michael Kerr. They discuss Phil's  journey from various jobs to creating a sustainable cleaning technology company tackling a global problem from Australia. This is valuable advice for aspiring entrepreneurs and covers; the importance of purpose and profit raising capital and funding growth technology licencing navigating big competitors the importance...

Strategies for crafting your small business brand: Tracy Fryer from Design Studio Perth 13.08.2025

Join @tracy fryer from @designstudioperth and @michael kerr as we explore the art of branding. Tracy shares her journey from a creative entrepreneur to a branding expert, offering valuable insights into how small businesses can craft a compelling brand identity. Learn about the essential elements of branding, the importance of understanding your target audience, and how a strong brand can drive bu...

BizVal Global founder Graham Stephen on making your business more valuable and sellable. 24.07.2025

@Michael Kerr and @Graham Stephen , founder of @BizVal Global , discuss #businessvaluation for small and medium enterprises (SMEs). With "85 to 95% of small businesses not sellable" we discuss the imperative for owners and advisers to understand business value today so they can begin proactively increasing it from tomorrow.  Graham explains why forward-looking valuations are the key to helping bus...

Amy Christopherson founder of Grounded HR, making your small business team click. 09.07.2025

In this conversation, @Michael Kerr and @Amy Christopherson , founder of @Grounded HR, discuss her pathway into small business ownership, the importance of HR in small businesses, and the challenges faced by business owners.  They explore the significance of leadership in employee engagement, navigating difficult conversations, and building a positive workplace culture. Amy shares insights on #exi...

Honor Northam from Honorbread on employee ownership and fostering resilient local economies. 01.07.2025

Host @Michael Kerr speaks with @Honor Northam about her journey in business ownership and her advocacy for employee ownership. They discuss the challenges and benefits of transitioning to employee ownership trusts (EOTs), the impact of small businesses on local communities, and the cultural barriers that hinder the adoption of employee ownership in Australia.  Honor shares her experiences with her...

Rosy McEvedy entrepreneurial founder of IV League Drips on overcoming the challenges of starting up and recovering from 2 big financial hits. 19.06.2025

@Rosy McEvedy founder of @IV League Drips , shares her entrepreneurial journey. Rosy founded the business in 2018 and has grown it to nearly 200 licensees. She faced two major setbacks in her entrepreneurial journey. The first setback was a partnership that ended poorly due to lack of compatibility. Rosy's background in pharmacy and nursing influenced her business direction. Rosy shares her person...

Jon Manning from Pricing Prophets on unlocking profitability through pricing strategies. 04.06.2025

@Michael Kerr and @Jon Manning on why #pricing is the biggest lever for improving profitability. They discuss using pricing strategies as a highly effective way to increase small business profitability. They explore the #psychology behind pricing, the common hesitations business owners face when considering price increases, and the importance of effectively communicating these changes to customers...

Marama Carmichael from Oracle Tree on helping owners fix their Frankenstein businesses 21.05.2025

@Marama Carmichael shares her pathway  that started in science and now sees her as founder and CEO of @Oracle Tree , a full-stack digital marketing agency. She discusses the pivotal moments that led her to start Oracle Tree, emphasizing the importance of empowering business owners and better understanding their needs.  Marama highlights the challenges many business owners face, including the tende...

Bill Withers 3x business founder and author of breakthrough book Succession Thinking on building resilient SMEs 05.05.2025

@bill withers is founder of @the Adapt Way and author of ' Succession Thinking '.  In this conversation, Michael and Bill discuss the challenges and strategies for building resilient businesses, emphasizing the importance of shifting from a short-term profit mindset to a long-term vision.  Bill shares his journey from a challenging upbringing in #Kununurra to becoming a successful entrepreneur and...

Jaryd Krause online business M&A advisor has a smart strategy to help grow your offline business 30.04.2025

@jaryd krause is an Online Business M&A Advisor with deep experience growing 7 & 8 Figure Online Businesses. In this discussion we talk about the huge potential for offline business owners to leverage online assets for grow, and also how to take advantage of the opportunities. Jaryd shares his personal back story. From starting as a plumbing apprentice to becoming a leading M&A advisor in Online B...

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