John Wilson

Owned and Operated - A Plumbing, Electrical, and HVAC Business Growth Podcast

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The Owned and Operated Podcast is the go-to show for HVAC, plumbing, and electrical business owners who want to grow faster, increase profits, and scale smarter. Hosted by John Wilson and Jack Carr, real home service operators in the trenches. This podcast delivers 2x weekly, no-BS conversations on what’s actually working in the trades today. From lead generation and marketing to hiring top-tier talent and building scalable systems, every episode is packed with actionable strategies you can implement immediately. If you're an HVAC contractor, plumber, or electrician looking to grow your busine...

Author

John Wilson

Category

Business

Podcast website

www.ownedandoperated.com

Latest episode

Jul 9, 2026

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Episodes

#147 - From Customer to Owner: The Journey into Business Acquisition and Ownership 15.10.2024

In this episode, Jack is flying solo and speaks with Rory Tyer, a new owner of an independent garden center in South Carolina, about his journey in entrepreneurship through acquisition. Rory shares his experiences and challenges in acquiring and operating a local nursery, discussing factors such as location, customer demographics, and the dynamics of retail vs. wholesale businesses.  The conversat...

#146 -Peter Lohmann and Home Service Branding as Lead Generation 08.10.2024

In this episode of Owned and Operated, John explains the world of home service business growth with CEO Peter Lohmann, focusing on how branding can serve as a powerful lead-generation tool. John and Peter explore the journey of scaling a home service company, including the challenges, insights, and opportunities that come with driving marketing efforts and building operational efficiency. Key take...

#145 - LEGENDS: Chris Hoffman and Home Service Financial Discipline at $100M and Up 01.10.2024

This episode of Owned and Operated features Chris Hoffman, CEO of the $130M Hoffman Brothers, continuing the "Legends Series," where industry leaders are highlighted for their massive influence and expertise in the home services space.  Chris shares his journey with John and Jack, scaling Hoffman Brothers from a modest family business to a multi-million-dollar industry leader, operating...

#144 - Call Center Commission and Navigating HVAC Equipment Pricing 24.09.2024

It’s Breaking $5M Workshop week, and Jack and John are together in the studio for the first time! What happens when you get these two together? They talk about call centers, that’s what. They break down organizational changes driven by AI, adjustments to call center compensation and the broader implications for business efficiency. They’ll also stress the importance of continuously negotiating wit...

#143 - Call-by-Call HVAC Growth Management with Service MVP Joe Crisara 17.09.2024

John and Jack welcome Joe Crisara from Service MVP, a mainstay in the home services business. Joe shares his extensive experience spanning 47 years in the trades industry, detailing his journey from a service technician to a successful entrepreneur. He discusses how implementing call by call management and personalized customer service can drastically improve business outcomes.  Joe also highlight...

#142 - TR Miller's Brian Sloan and Scaling a Multi-Generational Business 10.09.2024

In this episode of 'Owned and Operated,' John Wilson talks with owner Brian Sloan from TR Miller to discuss the nuances of business management and growth in HVAC and plumbing. What was the process for Brian of transitioning from a hands-on operator to a business owner mindset, learning the intricacies of multi-location management, and finding the importance of strategic partnerships?  Br...

#141 - Wyatt Smith and Gamifying Employee Retention with UpSmith 03.09.2024

In this episode of 'Owned and Operated,' host Jack Carr interviews Wyatt Smith from Upsmith to discuss employee retention and the psychology of incentives for skilled workforces. Wyatt shares a look into UpSmith’s mission to gamify the skilled trades industry using software that provides immediate feedback and recognition to technicians while bolstering your employee retention strategy,...

#140 - Navigating the ServiceTitan KPI Minefield with Danny Peavey 27.08.2024

In this episode of Owned and Operated, hosts John Wilson and Jack welcome back Home Service Engine Founder Danny Peevey to discuss the complexities and challenges of making KPI, data-driven decisions in the home services industry. What starts with a talk on the importance of site visits and peer comparisons then turns to the complexities of ServiceTitan and the importance of knowing what to do wit...

#139 - LEGENDS: Chad Peterman’s $120M Home Service Scaling Strategy 23.08.2024

Owned and Operated continues its new Legends series, focusing on the stories of the home service industry’s most successful entrepreneurs. John Wilson and Jack Carr are joined by special guest Chad Peterman, President and CEO of Peterman Brothers–a $120M home service empire with over 700 employees and eight locations. Follow along as Chad discusses how a centralized operation opened the door for e...

#138 - LEGENDS: Matt Ballard’s Balance of New Construction and Residential 21.08.2024

Owned and Operated continues its new LEGENDS series, focusing on the stories of the home service industry’s most successful entrepreneurs. John Wilson is joined by special guest Matt Ballard of Sunrise Mechanical, a $55M HVAC and plumbing company that works in small residential, commercial, and new construction. Matt discusses the balance between working in the two worlds of new construction and r...

#137 - LEGENDS: How Tommy Mello Built a $200M Home Service Business 19.08.2024

Owned and Operated kicks off its new LEGENDS series, focusing on the stories of the home service industry’s most successful entrepreneurs. John Wilson and Jack Carr are joined by special guest Tommy Mello, founder and CEO of A1 Garage, which operates in over 20 states, with over 50 locations. The talk with Tommy covers his insistence on a strong company culture, how partnerships drove his company...

#136 - Getting Home Service Business Leads When the Season Changes 13.08.2024

Are you focused on business leads in your home service company when the seasons change? This week, Jack and John talk about weak months during peak HVAC season, big victories coming from major talent hires, and the power of specialty equipment paying for itself almost immediately. However, the big topic of conversation covers home service business leads, generating those leads when times get quiet...

#135 - Pipelines, Heavy Equipment, and Marketing your Excavation Business 06.08.2024

Even vacation can’t stop John from talking about the new, heavy equipment for his drainage excavation business doubling as a marketing strategy! He and Jack talk about the nature of working in HVAC, drains, and excavation, why pipelining is great, and just how much a machine for drain cleaning can cost a business–and how much it makes back when you start to tie upsells into your sales practices. D...

#134 - HVAC Business Ups and Downs and Creating Your Organizational Structure 30.07.2024

John joins the show this week from the middle of the woods as he and Jack discuss creating your home service business organizational structure, org charts, and the issues with hiring leaders. It’s also peak HVAC business season and that means an inevitable downturn. Are Jack and John prepared for an HVAC shoulder season? Will John find his way out of the woods? Give a listen to this week’s show, h...

#133 - Managing HVAC Growth and Infrastructure in the Summer Heat 16.07.2024

July heat got you down? Then you must not work in the HVAC business, because things are hotter than ever for Jack and John, as they talk about trying to keep up with the massive summertime HVAC rush, the stretch of record-breaking home service sales records, and growth all around. But that begs the question: When you’re making summer hay what are the best moves to make in regards to expansion, fut...

#132 - Rebranding, Team Lead Pay, and GMB: Your Questions, Answered 09.07.2024

It’s June Q&A time, as John tackles strategies for increasing revenue per plumber and HVAC technician, tracking key performance indicators (KPIs), and tips for managing warehouse inventory and consignment. He’ll also get into hiring team leads, implementing incentive-based compensation plans, rebranding strategies after acquisitions, and navigating successful business models like new construct...

#131 - The AI Call Center Revolution with Avoca Founder Tyson Chen 02.07.2024

Join John Wilson and Jack Carr on 'Owned and Operated' as they look into the cutting-edge world of AI-powered call centers for home service businesses with Tyson from Avoca AI . Discover how AI is transforming the efficiency and effectiveness of call centers in the trades, optimizing everything from after-hours calls to specialized CSR allocation. Tyson shares his extensive background in...

#130 - Unlocking High Average Ticket Sales in HVAC and Plumbing 25.06.2024

Join John and Jack as they talk about hitting major milestones, training programs, and strategies that have significantly increased their average ticket sales. Learn about the importance of call-by-call management, creating effective options for customers, and improving service quality. We also discuss exploring customer needs early, the impact of nuanced training, and optimizing service processes...

#129 - Generating Leads for Home Service Businesses: Digital Marketing with Sam Preston 18.06.2024

Today's episode features a special guest, Sam Preston, CEO of Service Scalers . Join us as Sam visits our shop and shares his insights on revolutionizing home service marketing. We discuss the evolution from traditional marketing methods to leveraging digital strategies, AI, and SEO to drive leads and business growth. Learn about the challenges and successes in the industry, fresh marketing a...

#128 - How to Use AI for Home Service Business Success 11.06.2024

In this episode of 'Owned and Operated,' Jack and John revisit their previous discussion on how to use and integrate AI into their home service business endeavors, analyzing its transformative impact over the past few months. They reflect into their experience with Avoca, an AI-driven call center software, and discuss its role in enhancing CSR coaching and overall call center efficiency....

#127 - May Q&A Session with John Wilson 04.06.2024

Join John Wilson on this special episode of ' Owned and Operated ' as he dives into the world of home service businesses, focusing on plumbing, HVAC, and electric growth. It’s the end of the month and that means it’s time for John’s first Live Q&A with questions from the OaO private Facebook group! He answers pre-submitted questions about building business blueprints, recruiting for...

#126 - Plumbing Dreams, Million Dollar Goals: How to Grow Your Home Service Business 30.05.2024

Join John Wilson and Jack Carr in another episode of ' Owned and Operated ,' where they dive deep into how to grow in the home service business; specifically residential plumbing, HVAC, and electric services. John discusses the challenges of thinking too small, the benefits of having substantial goals, and the potential of raising capital to scale operations. With insights on securing C-...

#125 - Enhancing Team Performance: The Role of Training and EOS 28.05.2024

Is your home service using EOS and training to their full potential? Today on Owned and Operated , John and Jack talk about the need to replace unreliable vehicles with new vans, the benefits of leasing, and the recent whole company staff meeting aimed at clarifying company goals and values. They also explore the complexities of managing capacity issues, the nuance required in making significant b...

#124 - How to Survive Disaster in Home Service Business Ownership 23.05.2024

What happens when your Home Service Business ownership hits disaster, and how do you survive business hardship? Hard questions this week, as Owned and Operated hosts Jack and John tackle a question from the Owned and Operated private business owner group on Facebook to talk about navigating the murky water of when things go badly for your business. John also talks about the challenges of managing...

#123 - Overselling, Whiplash, and Capacity: Optimization in Home Service Businesses 21.05.2024

In this episode of Owned and Operated, hosts John Wilson and Jack Carr share insights from running a home service business specializing in residential plumbing, HVAC, and electric growth, in podcast form. This week, the two talk strategies for managing capacity and fulfillment to keep up with sales, with the importance of focusing on core services for optimization, and setting up efficient busines...

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