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Over the Pill

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Welcome to “Over the Pill”, the Berenberg podcast where Kerry Holford & Luisa Hector lift the curtain on the messy reality of analysing pharma share prices. With over 30 years of friendship, Kerry & Luisa invite listeners into their regular debates on pharma strategy, drug pipeline prospects and commercial power. 

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Berenberg

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Latest episode

Jun 29, 2026

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Episodes

Episode 15 29.06.2026

Following busy weekends of tennis and pop concerts, Luisa and Kerry reconvene to debate key takes from meetings last week with Merck & Co’s Head of R&D, Dean Li, and Teva’s CEO, Richard Francis. Topics covered include oncology, cholesterol, HIV and China. 

Episode 14 15.06.2026

As the June medical conference season comes to an end, Luisa and Kerry discuss key takes from ADA and ASCO. The team weave in feedback from their recent discussions with lung cancer and obesity key opinion leaders. 

Episode 13 01.06.2026

After a period of travel to visit and meet with R&D Leaders and other pharma representatives, Kerry and Luisa re-group. With conference season well underway, the team run through some key highlights from ASCO and prepare for ADA. Expect details on lung cancer progress (MRK, BMY/BNTX, PFE) and RevMed’s belle of the ball in pancreatic cancer. 

Episode 12 06.05.2026

Listen to Kerry and Luisa discuss the findings of their analysis of the latest remuneration packages for the executive committees: Pharma CEO remuneration . 2026 brings greater alignment with shareholders as LTIPs are more closely linked to “total shareholder return”. This is largely driven by CEO changes at Novo Nordisk and Sanofi. Interesting snippets across the companies are revealed. The score...

Episode 11 27.04.2026

With Q1 reporting season now underway, Luisa & Kerry run through key highlights from Sanofi and Roche results with a focus on longer dosing interval Dupixent. As usual obesity is in focus after CMS had to extend its Medicare bridge program to allow patients access from July after payers failed to opt-in on time.

Episode 10 20.04.2026

Back from their travels, Luisa and Kerry “provide an update” after a jam-packed week of East Coast investor meetings. They discuss the obesity pill launches (Wegovy pill versus Foundayo), latest M&A trends (with a focus on Alumis as a potential target on immunology following impressive psoriasis data) and the start of the Q1 reporting season.

Episode 9 30.03.2026

Before heading on Easter break, the team discuss key takeaways from DrugBank and Rebate Round-up  publications. Luisa and Kerry also touch on the latest clinical data readouts for AZN’s anti-IL-33 in COPD and the unfolding battle in rare genetic diseases (FSHD and DM1), between Novartis/Avidity, Sarepta and Dyne Therapeutics. 

Episode 8 24.03.2026

Luisa records from the road this week as she visits AstraZeneca and Sanofi “up north”. Kerry highlights key takes from her meetings with GSK at the recent Berenberg UK conference. The duo also discuss the longevity of Sanofi’s Dupixent , expectations ahead of Lilly’s orforglipron launch and the Medicare obesity BALANCE pilot programme .

Episode 7 16.03.2026

It’s time for Top of the Pills 2026 ! Kerry and Luisa discuss their analysis of the top 50 drugs by NPV from Berenberg DrugBank. The team also highlight their “Annual check-up” series, detailing key findings from pharma annual reports, including AstraZeneca , AbbVie , UCB and Pfizer . 

Episode 6 09.03.2026

This week brings the first special guest to OTP! Luisa and Kerry discuss the aesthetics of weight loss with Berenberg consumer analyst, Bethan Davies. The team consolidate thoughts on recent data readouts, including Zealand/Roche’s P2b petrelintide (obesity) and Roche’s P3 giredestrant (1L breast cancer), and the possible implications of the FDA one P3 trial proposal . 

Episode 5 02.03.2026

Kerry and Luisa re-group after a week apart with updates on “the aesthetics of weight loss” (after time on the road with our Galderma analyst), AbbVie’s opportunity to restore aesthetics harmony (amylin/HarmonyCA), GSK’s acceleration in business development (a new battle of the pills emerging versus Merck’s Winrevair) and more on the TL1A’s in colitis/Crohn’s after breakfast with Teva (Merck &...

Episode 4 18.02.2026

The “Battle of the Pills” continues in HIV, breast cancer, UC/Crohn’s and HS. Listen as Kerry and Luisa consolidate their thoughts after the latest Q4 results calls on the upcoming clinical trial readouts for long-acting HIV medicines (GSK, Gilead), oral SERDs in breast cancer (AstraZeneca, Eli Lilly, Roche), TL1A’s in UC/Crohn’s (AbbVie, Merck & Co, Roche, Sanofi/Teva) and HS (AbbVie, Novarti...

Episode 3 09.02.2026

What a week on the obesity battlefield. Listen as Kerry and Luisa dissect the contrasting 2026 guidance from Novo Nordisk and Eli Lilly, the Hims’ obesity pill, TrumpRx, Super Bowl adverts and Clash Royale. The conversation also captures the latest updates on the “Battle of the Pills” in multiple sclerosis for Roche vs Novartis. 

Episode 2 02.02.2026

Results season is upon. Listen in for the latest snippets we have picked up plus a summary of our final research reports in January. Our speedy zoom schedule revealed that pharma is investable again. It’s obesity with a larger side-dish of pharma names. Investor sentiment is highest on AstraZeneca, Merck & Co & UCB and lowest on Sanofi, AbbVie and Zealand.

Episode 1 27.01.2026

We review our first research notes of 2026 and summarise investor sentiment on large pharma after our annual January 50@50 (speedy zooms). We have termed 2026 “The Battle of the Pills”. Great news for patients – not just in obesity but also breast cancer, lung cancer, multiple sclerosis, cardiomyopathy, hypertension, cholesterolaemia, atopic dermatitis & beyond. 

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