Outside the Bell Curve

We’ve all been there, trying to outgrow the version of ourselves we were raised to be. The “good girl,” the rule follower, the one who doesn’t question anything… until suddenly you do. Mattie Jo Cowsert is a pastor’s kid turned shameless oversharer, actor, author of God, Sex & Rich People , and truly the definition of “I’ll do as I please.”  From rebuilding her entire identity, to choosing a l...

Vandie is bold and not to mention, savvy. She went from tech to essentially the “fun-planer” at a dream company, has lived in 26 cities, co-founded a space for connection after college, and chose to be child-free in a very permanent way. We talk about “delusional positivity,” radical self-trust, quitting the checklist life, and showing up authentically (even when you’re still figuring it out). Thi...

What happens when the ghosts get to know you? This Halloween , we’re with Spirit Chasers UK , the nonprofit ghost-hunting team making the paranormal accessible, affordable, and full of heart. David and Marie share their wildest encounters: a singing child, flying tables, a haunted cottage that sent them running, and explain why laughter might be the strongest tool in any investigation. A story abo...

Eric Jackson knows the game on and off the field. He’s an award-winning journalist and sports communications strategist, ate a hundred “no’s,” and still landed on his feet covering athletes from the NFL to the Olympics and artists from Ice Cube to Darius Rucker. He highlights the business of sports , showing the intersection where athletics, money, and culture collide. We talk resilience without a...

“We came to this world to live.” Meet Santiago Iglesias — an Argentine entrepreneur turned Mallorca adventure guide who left a 10-year accounting career to build a life of business ownership, cliff jumps, solar travel and navigating visas.  He opened a hostel in Mar del Plata, Argentina, took the journey to Italian citizenship, and upped and moved across the world; learning patience, what happens...

Jacey Jones didn’t plan on becoming a founder — but today she runs two companies in the travel space: TripSuite , a tech startup streamlining the travel advisor industry, and Kamira Travel , a boutique agency specializing in luxury adventure. Jacey shares how she pivoted from Wall Street and Silicon Valley into travel entrepreneurship, why advisors are more in demand than ever, and what it’s like...

Marcus Lorenzo Brandon has worn a lot of hats — college football player, cybersecurity entrepreneur, actor on Mayor of Kingstown — but through it all, the art has always come first. Marcus shares what it’s really like to chase acting while balancing a full-time career, why theater still has his heart, and why directing is calling his name. We talk football, philanthropy, and what it means to follo...

Redundancy → reinvention → 10,000 miles on the road. I bumped into a friend from Australia in Andorra of all places; as I’ve said before, that place is magic.  Akhil is gearing up for the Mongol Rally 2025 —~ 10,000 miles (≈16,000 km) of solo driving from Europe toward the far east of Kazakhstan, through deserts, mountains, and a whole lot of “not-a-road.” His journey is filled with up and down ca...

TikTok political commentator, and host of The Stay at Home Feminist , CC Binx grew up everywhere from Africa to the Caribbean to the Middle East, and that global lens shaped how she sees society — as a set of constructs meant to be challenged. From her early career in nonprofits to TikTok to her current platform as host of The Stay at Home Feminist podcast host, CC has unapologetic hot takes on wh...

~Sometimes you're on a hike in Andorra and just wanna plop down to ask your new friend some questions, so let me introduce you to this small mountain valley chat~ What happens when you swap an office job for 70 days on a bus across Europe? Patrick Davis did just that — and fifteen years later, he’s still guiding travelers through Spain, Portugal, and Morocco, with a side of skydiving, sailing,...

From a football coach’s daughter in Texas to a professional dancer in New York, Emily Paige has never exactly followed the script. From her years performing around the world, the pivot to casting and creative direction, and why asking for what you want is the real career hack, Emily is continuing her advocacy for artists. For more show updates: Outside the Bell Curve Follow Emily here: https://www...

For the forever curious, and the ones chasing wild ideas. Welcome to Outside the Bell Curve , a show for people who just can’t seem to color inside the lines. I’m Heather, and each week I chat with friends, creatives, and fascinating humans I meet on the road — folks with cool jobs, wild stories, and a habit of choosing the unexpected. We talk about the shaky moments, bold pivots, questionable car...