Kelly Riordan

Outside The Bachs with Kelly Riordan

Arts EN ↓ 32 episodes

We talk to musicians, artists, and creative entrepreneurs about their careers and the lessons they learned along their journey. Hosted by Kelly Riordan, co-founder of OutsideTheBachs.comOutsideTheBachs.com is a business accelerator program for musicians that are soloing or scaling in creating their own private music studios and delivering the highest quality education to their students. Scaling full-time private music studios with:‍- Profitable lesson packages- Predictable sources of students- Repeatable enrollment processes

Author

Kelly Riordan

Category

Arts

Podcast website

outsidethebachs.com

Latest episode

Feb 24, 2026

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Episodes

Building a Sustainable Private Strings Studio 24.02.2026

In this special episode, Kelly sits down with three successful private music studio owners to share real stories of studio growth, increased income, and sustainable teaching schedules. If you are a private music teacher looking to grow your studio, raise your rates, or transition from side income to full-time teaching, this episode offers practical insight and proven results. Jessica shares how bu...

The Mindset Behind a Growing Music Studio | Chelsea Tanner & Kelly Riordan 17.02.2026

In this episode, Kelly sits down with Chelsea Tanner - flute coach, mindset expert, and college audition coach, to explore how shifting from artist mindset to a true business owner can transform a private teaching studio. Chelsea shares how clarifying her lesson offer, refining her pricing, and getting clear on who she actually wanted to serve led to major growth in studio revenue and sustainabili...

Building a Flute Studio That Financially Supports Real Life | Anamarie Diaz & Kelly Riordan 10.02.2026

In this episode, Kelly sits down with Anamarie of Diaz Flute Studios to explore how building a private lesson studio can financially support a portfolio career as a musician. Starting from zero students, Anamarie shares how she grew her flute studio into a sustainable business that now supports her family, time off, and has inspired long-term financial goals for her. They discuss her early growth...

Run It Like A Business | Aubrey Bergauer & Kelly Riordan 09.07.2025

In this episode, Kelly sits down with Aubrey Bergauer to explore what it really means to run a performing arts organization like a business, without sacrificing artistic integrity. Known for her transformational leadership at arts organizations, Aubrey shares data-driven strategies for growing audiences, generating new revenue, and improving retention. They discuss the importance of the newcomer e...

How do you win an orchestra audition? | Christopher Still & Kelly Riordan 27.08.2024

In this episode, Kelly chats with Christopher Still, trumpet player with the Los Angeles Philharmonic and founder of Honesty Pill - a program that helps musicians win their next orchestra audition. So how can you win an orchestra audition? How many auditions does it take? And how much does it all cost? ⁠Outside The Bachs- ⁠⁠⁠Listen on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get More Students For Your Priv...

Why You Shouldn’t Go to Music School | Kirsten Haddox & Kelly Riordan 06.08.2024

In this episode, Kelly Riordan interviews Kirsten Haddox, a music major turned content creator and music marketer. The discussion reveals the alarming disparity between the number of graduates and actual job placements, the lack of education on self-promotion and entrepreneurship, and the minimal job placement or salary transparency. They highlight the grueling schedules, the lack of job security...

Start Treating Your Private Music Lesson Studio Like A Business | Eric Branner & Kelly Riordan 13.06.2024

In this episode, Eric shares his unique story of growing up playing rock and blues guitar, and eventually transitioning to classical music at the age of 18. Discover how his grandfather, a band director and classical pianist, influenced his early musical years, and how his passion for guitar led him to pursue music at the collegiate level and to eventually start fons.com a tool for music studio ma...

Pivoting Gracefully in Ballet, Audio and Life | Austenne Grey & Kelly Riordan 15.04.2024

In this podcast episode, Kelly and Austenne Grey chat about Austenne’s life as a multi-passionate creative. Austenne talks about her work doing audio narration for audiobooks, shares her experiences in musical theatre and ballet, including facing adversity and how to stay positive and open to new opportunities. She explains how challenges helped her grow and learn to pivot in her career. Outside T...

Creating Opportunities in Music and Marketing | Michael Fenoglio & Kelly Riordan 15.02.2024

In this episode, Kelly chats with Michael Fenoglio - Director of Marketing at DANSR, Inc - the exclusive importer of Vandoren products in the US. Michael is a saxophonist and music educator, and at DANSR, he is responsible for planning, implementation, and oversight of a variety of marketing initiatives including artist relations, educational outreach, digital marketing, tradeshows and more. He ho...

Opening Doors to Music Careers | Natalie Morrison & Kelly Riordan 14.12.2023

Kelly sits down with Natalie Morrison and chats about how networking can impact your career path within the music industry. Natalie is currently the Senior Segment Marketing Specialist for Education at the Yamaha Corporation of America. Most notably, Natalie brings projects with purpose to life, and is the Co-Founder and Co-Producer of ReVoicing the Future, a Women of NAMM podcast. She is also ser...

Future of Music Education | Sam Reti & Kelly Riordan 16.11.2023

⁠ In this episode, Kelly chats about the future of music education technology with Sam Reti of Muzie. Live a music education platform for teachers and students. Teachers can host high-quality lessons, interact with students in real-time, and access a range of tools to support student engagement and productivity. Outside The Bachs- ⁠⁠⁠Listen on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get More Students For Your P...

ReVoicing the Future | Julia Olsen & Kelly Riordan 21.09.2023

Julia Olsen is a Singer/ Songwriter, Composer, Producer, Live, Mix, Recording and Mastering Engineer. Her degrees are in Music Production and Recording Engineering with emphasis in Music Business and Performance. She has learned over the years the importance of hybrid skills allowing her to move between industry roles and apply the knowledge from one role to the next. Julia has worked with notable...

Duet Partner | Neylan McBaine & Kelly Riordan 13.09.2023

Neylan McBaine is the CEO of Duet Partner, a digital studio management system for independent music teachers. As a marketer and community builder, Neylan previously worked in house at various Silicon Valley companies and advertising agencies. By leading Duet Partner, she is returning to her musical roots as a Juilliard- and Yale-trained pianist and the daughter of a Metropolitan Opera soloist. The...

Music Retail Marketing | Erin Kessler & Kelly Riordan 20.07.2023

Erin Kessler is the Marketing Director of Maple Leaf Strings, managing over 100 Private Label brands and marketing strategies for over 50 retailers nationwide. Her B&O retail and music performance background informs her mindful but competitive approach. Outside of Maple Leaf Strings, Erin is a Staff Sergeant in the 122nd Ohio Army National Guard Band as a french hornist, staff arranger, and le...

Soaring Scarves | Leanna O'Brien & Kelly Riordan 06.07.2023

In this episode, Kelly chats with Leanna O’Brien, a curriculum designer and professional development creator with a passion for incorporating the essentials of music into every lesson. With a focus on the National Music Education Standards, her lessons have been implemented in over four hundred schools. Leanna is dedicated to providing elementary music educators with the tools and information they...

Be Marketable | Dr. Dave Gerhart & Kelly Riordan 15.06.2023

In this episode, Kelly sits down with Dr. Dave Gerhart to have a conversation about how musicians can become more marketable as they navigate through different career opportunities. Dave is Segment Marketing Manager, Education for the Yamaha Corporation of America and Lecturer of Percussion at the Bob Cole Conservatory of Music at CSU, Long Beach, is a nationally recognized performer, composer, an...

A Fearless Artist Mindset | Deanna Petre & Kelly Riordan 01.06.2023

In this episode, Kelly chats with American violist Deanna Petre. Deanna enjoys a diverse career as a performer and teaching artist and is co-founder of The Fearless Artist Mastermind. She emanates a calm, positive leadership style and her deep compassion for others helps her serve The Fearless Artist community.   Based in Paris, Deanna performs with orchestras in the region and for chamber music s...

Composing Your Music Career | Jessica Muñiz-Collado & Kelly Riordan 30.05.2023

In this episode, Kelly talks to Jessica Muñiz-Collado, a music consultant, composer/producer, percussionist and Assistant Professor of Music Business at the University of North Texas. Jessica founded NIZCO MUSIC because she believes that a career in music is achievable and does not want to see any more musicians give up on their artistic visions. Jessica offers services in music career and busines...

Being Coachable As An Artist | Jasmine Sandler & Kelly Riordan 25.05.2023

Ever wanted to learn about what it takes to level up your brand as an artist? In this episode, Kelly talks with Jasmine Sandler about being coachable while putting your best foot forward in the business world. Also known as JazzRock of the band SILENT FURY, Jasmine is an Artist Branding and Business author, instructor, speaker, advisor and agency owner at JSM for Artists. Her mission is to genuine...

Keys To Praise | Amy Elmore & Kelly Riordan 27.04.2023

In this episode, Kelly speaks with piano studio owner & teachers, Amy Elmore. Amy has been successfully teaching kids how to play the piano for over 30 years and has been the owner of Keys to Praise Piano Studio for the last 15 years. She uses creative games and “off the bench” activities to teach all the basics - technique, theory, rhythm, and note reading—while encouraging independent explor...

Becoming a Fearless Artist | Michelle Lynn & Kelly Riordan 06.04.2023

In this episode, Kelly speaks with Canadian pianist and singer Michelle Lynne. Michelle performs widely across Europe, is Lecturer of Entrepreneurship, and is co-founder of The Fearless Artist Mastermind. She graduated from the Université de Montréal with a Master’s and Artist Diploma in piano performance and currently holds positions as Lecturer for Music Entrepreneurship at Conservatorium Maastr...

Balancing It All | Kelly Riordan & Enovative Piano Founders Chan Kiat Lim and Dr. Susanna Garcia 23.03.2023

In this episode, Kelly speaks with Chan Kiat Lim and Dr. Susanna Garcia, authors of the online multimedia curriculum eNovativePiano: Multimedia Resources for Developing Musicianship Skills. Suitable for eLearning and distance learning, this one-of-its-kind curriculum points towards a new direction in piano instruction. Chan Kiat Lim is an active recitalist with an interest and research in Twentiet...

Finding Your Voice | Claire Hosterman & Kelly Riordan 03.03.2023

In this episode, Kelly talks with Claire Hosterman about her career as an international singing coach and her instruction to students from all over the world. Claire has over 100k followers on TikTok and 50k followers on Instagram who enjoy her helpful and supportive vocal technique content.  Her clients have appeared on The Voice and American Idol, on Broadway, and in major films and TV shows suc...

The Piano Path | Brianne Paik & Kelly Riordan 23.02.2023

In this episode, Kelly chats with music educator and content creator Brianne Paik. Brianne shares her story of starting The Piano Path and details her mission of making learning the piano fun and simple for adults.  For more about Brianne, check out: thepianopath.com Piano Path on YouTube Piano Path on TikTok and Instagram Watch more Outside The Bachs podast episodes on YouTube Listen on Appl...

Teaching Music From Anywhere | Katie Gettys & Kelly Riordan 10.02.2023

In this episode, Kelly sits down with Katie Gettys - a music studio owner that teaches classes remotely while traveling the world! Learn about how to teach music online, find new students, and manage a classroom from your laptop. For more about Katie, check out: katiegettys.com Katie’s YouTube Channel Katie on Instagram Watch on YouTube Listen on Apple Podcasts Get More Students For Your Private M...

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