Outer Limited: The Outer Limits Lounge Podcast

Chad and Jeff look back on their illustrious line-up of guests in Season 3, whilst waxing mildly-philosophic on the absurdities and curiosities behind the meanings of certain music sub-genres! Also, wow, Jeff and Chad have basically been interviewing people for 10 years together, now! Tune in! 

Eddie Baranek, J. Rowe, and Dave Shettler are just three of the many musicians who are going to be performing later this month, November 22nd, at 6pm, at Schvitz Detroit, for "A Night of George Harrison" - a screening of The Concert for Bangladesh documentary, followed by a live performance! Tickets are raising funds for Thrive, which provides meals for school children in Bangladesh and the Philip...

This week, Chad and Jeff are chatting with singer/songwriter and longtime bassist for the Muggs, TONY MUGGS, who also writes, records, and performs with his solo project/band, known as DUDE, along with The Hourlies, and a couple of cover bands! We talk about Ween, we talk about Fleetwood Mac, we talk about how awesome of a guitar player Danny Muggs is, and we talk about Tony's incredible life and...

This week, we're talking about hard feelings! Singer/songwriter Matthew Teardrop, from the Matthew Teardrop Orchestra, and bassist Shaun Hunter, join Jeff and Chad to talk about cathartic songwriting, adventures in the Bay Area and LA punk scenes, encounters with Marc Maron, and steadily integrating into the Detroit Scene! 

This week, Chad and Jeff welcome 1/2 of the quartet known as Secondary Colors, with drummer Alex Jarmoluk and Ben Devins, the other founding member, Alex Belfrie, was out on tour during this interview, with another band known as Mod Lang, which also happens to feature Antonio Keka who also happens to be the fourth (recently joined) member of Secondary Colors! Got that so far? Okay, let's hang out...

Just before Labor Day, Chad and I were able to interview 66.67% of the dreamy-garage-goth rock group MIRROR MASK! We talked about their formation, their aesthetic, the upcoming Mirror Mask album, and also, a few tangents into horror films, ashwaganda, and monochromatic stage outfits. Oh, and you'll hear us mention, toward the end, that they haven't quiiiiite settled on that album title, yet, but f...

One of our all-time favorite engineers, Zach Shipps, joins us to talk about his life-in-sound(-recording)! Shipps takes us from the 90s, during his formative years as a music fan and musician who, even back then, was fascinated with recording technology and the techniques of the producers working behind the scenes of his (and our) favorite albums! Shipps was known as The Colonel during his time as...

Here, loosely commemorating the 11th year of the founding of Tin Foil, on the eve of the release of their third album, Chad and Jeff finally sit down with Andrew Hecker, who's worked at Outer Limits since the doors opened under John & Kelly's management, since 2017--along with bandmate and co-songwriter Steve Kowalski, to talk about their origins and misadventures, as well as the inspiration b...

Chad and Jeff are recording in a different bar, this week! We're at THE PARIS BAR, the new venue that was recently opened by Johnny from the Hentchmen, essentially the sister bar of The Outer Limits Lounge! And this week, we're chatting with Johnny, Tim, and Mike from The Hentchmen! They assembled for a practice session as they get ready for their upcoming show in Ann Arbor with Mazinga! We go dow...

Let's rock! Chris Taylor drives in from Ann Arbor to talk about the 10th annual FUZZ FEST, happening NEXT WEEKEND in Ann Arbor! We also talk about Ann Arbor's rock 'n' roll legacy, the expansive definitions of heavy-hard-psychedelic rock, and a lot of just pure, fun, nerdy shit! Fuzz Fest features three jam-packed nights of bands performing at the Blind Pig, including past Podcast guests like Loos...

This week, Chad and Jeff are interviewing J. Navarro! And... since our laptop crashed, we actually recorded the whole thing on a 4-track reel-to-reel, which feels appropriately punk rock for such a guest. J., Jay, or Jason Navarro has been in the Suicide Machines for more than 30 years and they're still highly active to this day--they literally just released a new single, which you can sample in t...

This week, we're welcoming Zoe Hecker back to the podcast, talking about a new band: DORI  Or is it Dori? Dori! This group had their first show in March of 2025, at the annual Blowout! Zoe and her partner Kolton Sarate, who plays organ and synth (amongst other things) in the group, joined us to chat about the band's origins, their first recoridngs, and their future plans! Shout-out to Taylor, Gord...

This week, Chad and Jeff are chatting with the psychedelic/stoner-rock power trio known as Carbon Decoy, just in time for the release of their 2nd full-length album, Crush The Sun!  Casey Rowe, Jared Jordan, and Earl Mudd are hanging out and talking about their roots, from the rural climes near Jackson, MI, to memorable shows performed around the Metro region, as well as exuberant remarks upon how...

This week, we're chatting with LZR, or Johnny LZR, or LZR Violet, or, lzr.violet, either way, they're all the same person and that person is here to talk about their musical journey, from early days of skateboarding, to the formation of Human Eye with Timmy Vulgar and stints with The Go and Conspiracy of Owls. We also get in to the story behind a slew of newer projects along the way, including Bro...

This week, we've got an episode where Chad and Jeff chat with Joey and Tex, the duo comprising the lo-fi garage-rock group known as Ménage Detroit! Now, there are more than a few references to 4/20, the infamous stoner date of Gregorian Calendar, since that's the literal day that we recorded this episode! We hear the origin story of Joey and Tex as a couple, as collaborators, and some of their rec...

This week, Nadine Chronopoulos joins us to talk about her band DENO, as well as her new EP titled OM TARA / From Here To There! Nadine is also performing on Sunday at 27th Letter Books, for an event celebrating the establishment of a physical space for Shelley Salant's Gingko Records, a local label that Shelly (Shells) has been facilitating for years, but this weekend marks the start of a set loca...

Melody Baetens, also known as Melody Malosh, is a dining and entertainment reporter for The Detroit News, where she has worked for over 20 years, earning the position of Restaurant Critic in 2019. Along the way, and particularly throughout the 2010s, Melody diligently covered the local music scene, bringing indie and underground bands to the pages of the Detroit News. Before that, though, she was...

The four members of FEN FEN decalred The Outer Limits Lounge to be "the greatest venue in the world" and "most comfortable place to play!" Well, damn it, it's also a comfortable place to host a podcast--particularly when you're talking about loud, aggressive, frenetic, fast-tempo music! Ferocious music, yes, but Luke, Josh, Ben, and Jake are exceedingly affable, laid-back, chill dudes who just wan...

This week, Jeff and Chad chat with singer-songwriter-guitarist Aran Ruth, covering a wide variety of psychedelic-folk lore and charting how her diverse musical influences forged her path toward eventually forming WICCANS with Kelly Jean Caldwell. We discuss the group's forthcoming third and final record, as well as a bit about Infinity People. You can see Aran Ruth perform live next SATURDAY, June...

Welcome to Season 3 of Outer Limited! We're back! Join us for our conversation with Matthew Smith, founder of Outrageous Cherry, current leader of the Matthew Smith Group, and overall prolific songwriter! We run through the chronology of Outrageous Cherry up into the late 2010s, while also enjoying an array of anecdotes about the surrealism of a band, or any musician, simply existing within the mu...

It's the finale of Season 2 of Outer Limited, with a very special guest: Liz Warner, host of Altnerate Take, heard Thursday evenings at 8pm on WDET. Liz Warner has been long-known to late-night Detroit audiences as Liz Copeland and is an award-winning multimedia journalist specializing in audio. She started in Detroit as a nightly live radio producer and host on NPR affiliate WDET in 1995. On a co...

Nick Chevillet and Adam Padden from a new sextet known as Starlings are on this week's episode with Chad and Jeff, talking about their band, and also their long friendship, with collaborative ties in this local music scene dating back to 2010. Nick and Adam are both in HandGrenades, but then we gotta talk about Tart, and then we gotta talk about other solo projects, and then we gotta talk about th...

Singer/songwriter and filmmaker (and painter) Chloe Drallos is hanging out with Chad and Jeff this week to talk about her recently released short film, "The Rosy Crucifixion," born out of a music video for a track from her latest album, Earthly Delights, under the moniker of Zilched. Drallos has been writing, recording, and performing as Zilched, either solo or with a full band, for nearly 7 years...

This week, Eric Allen from Loose Koozies swings by to tell us about his band's forthcoming album, Passing Through You. Eric and Jeff go waaay back, to the late 00's, when they were both writers at a now defunct local music magazine, and they've been friends ever since. But, we're also having a splendid conversation about both Eric's own journey through music and the ongoing journey of Loose Koozie...

This week, Kate Derringer from SHADOW SHOW joined Chad and Jeff to talk about the psych-pop trio's busy year of touring and their most recently released album, Fantasy Now! which was engineered and mixed by Kate! When she isn't writing/recording/performing with Shadow Show, Kate works as a professional freelance audio engineer, consistently busy with local projects, working out of High Bias Studio...