Andrew Carruthers
Out of Step Podcast
A podcast for those who live in the ecosystem of supporting others—coaches, guides, facilitators, mentors, and more—who sense there’s more on the edges of these roles than the widely accepted norms. Through stories, reflections, and honest conversations, we offer a sense of belonging, a touch of disruption, and an invitation to walk your own way beneath “the work.” Not everything will resonate, and some of this may challenge what you currently believe (that's intentional). Listen with curiosity and an open heart—take what speaks to you, leave what doesn’t.
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Episodes
EP14 Death by One Thousand Cuts w/ Ambrosia Carey 08.07.2026 1:17:32
There was once a young human who believed money and status would finally make them whole... and if that story sounds familiar, it's because every myth that starts that way ends the same. Success doesn't equal fulfillment. My friend Ambrosia Carey found that out the hard way, and she's here to tell you exactly what it cost her to figure it out. Ambrosia's spent 27 years in the beauty industry... st...
EP13 Challenging Our Beliefs From the Inside Out w/ Trevor Wyllthawk 17.06.2026 1:17:32
Those belief systems you are holding... who chose them? Did you? That's not a trick question LOL! It's something I sit with often and it's a big part of our conversation in this episode. Most of what we hold as beliefs was absorbed and formed in the background as we moved through life. Some of our beliefs and patterns formed even before we had language for them! Trevor and I dive into how belief s...
EP12 What if We Stopped Fighting Ourselves w/ Virginia Terrill 09.06.2026 1:05:04
What is enough? I mean for real... in a world of "always get better," what is ENOUGH? If that question makes you squirm a little, you're in good company, because I'm right there with you. This week my friend Virginia makes the case that we already have the compass within us... the one we've been outsourcing to self-proclaimed gurus and the loudest voices in our social feed. I open with a story abo...
EP11 If You Could Go Back, Would You? 12.05.2026 13:59
I've been asking my guests at the end of every episode... "If you could speak to your younger self, what would you say?" And then a few days ago, my wife asked me the same thing. And honestly... it went way deeper than I expected. We ended up in this whole sci-fi rabbit hole. Like, Matrix and Total Recall style LOL. What if you could literally reach in and carve out a belief system? Or upload a li...
EP10 The Facilitators Journey from Control to Surrender w/ Carolyn Anne Budgell 07.05.2026 1:14:35
There's a version of facilitation and serving others that kinda looks like confidence but really it's control. We walk in with the perfect lesson plan, detailed agenda, and a pocket full of knowledge. But inside we are just praying that it all doesn't come undone. Whether you're a coach, a yoga teacher, a breathwork facilitator, or anyone who shows up in service of others... most of us started the...
EP9 Is Our Story Our Power or Our Kryptonite w/ Evan Bourcier 22.04.2026 1:22:14
What if the story someone tells you is actually the wall keeping you out? Evan Bourcier has spent 15 years pulling real stories out of real people... athletes, musicians, billionaires, and even dudes bleeding out in Dunkin' Donuts. He has learned to sniff out the difference between the story someone tells and the story that's actually driving their life. In this conversation, we get into all of it...
EP8 Fuck the Boxes w/ Misty Jayne Harmon 16.04.2026 1:08:16
What if the identity we've built around our work is actually the thing holding us back? Not because it's wrong, but because we've let it become a box with walls so high we can't even see over them anymore? That's what this conversation is really about. My guest Misty Jayne Harmon has been a hairdresser for over 23 years, a money coach, a podcaster, and honestly a lot of other things that don't fit...
EP7 Gurus and Fellow Wayfarers w/ Frank Inzan Owen 08.04.2026 1:01:57
What if the most powerful thing a teacher can do is refuse to be your guru? That's the question at the heart of this conversation — and honestly, it's one I had to sit with myself before we even hit record. My guest is Frank Inzan Owen who has become a co-Wayfarer and teacher on my journey. I found him through a secondhand book my wife picked up from a friend's moving pile. Ten pages in, I knew I...
EP6 No Shortcuts, Just the Way: Reflections from The Way Beneath the Work 26.03.2026 29:14
There’s no clean path to finding our place in this work… and definitely no five-step formula. In this solo reflection, I wrap up The Way Beneath the Work mini-series by sharing what’s been most nourishing, challenging, and real for me after conversations with Ari, Sagewolf, Sarai, and Kathleen. From spirituality and community to the necessity of hard experiences and the willingness to follow inner...
EP5 Don't Call it Woo - A Journey of Big Leaps with Dr. Kathleen Funk 24.02.2026 1:14:41
You know when a friend you love introduces you to another cool-ass human… and you instantly know you’re supposed to be homies? That’s Kathleen Funk. She’s a 4th generation healer with a doctorate in Traditional Chinese Medicine who left a successful integrative clinic… and followed the call into art, energy work, and what she (rightfully) calls “Don’t Call It Woo.” In this conversation, we get int...
EP4 Chaos and Calm w/ Sarai Speer 17.02.2026 1:08:08
This episode has a whole bunch of f-cks—and it’s not for shock value, it’s part of the medicine! Sarai Speer tells the real story: what it cost to survive, heal, and rebuild capacity from the inside out on her journey to Authenticity. If you’ve ever looked “fine” while your nervous system was completely maxed out… this one’s for you. Sarai is a nervous system + mental health coach, international s...
EP3 Community is the Medicine w/ Sagewolf Cooper 08.02.2026 1:04:24
In Episode 3, I sit down with my brother Sagewolf ... devoted father of five, husband, and powerful guide for men. We talk about the lifelong hunger for community, how it changes over time, and what becomes possible when you’re willing to meet yourself honestly. This one goes deep into accountability, supportive confrontation and the kind of community that doesn’t just comfort you... it sharpens y...
EP2 Spiritual and Ancestral Guidance w/ Ari Huitzilopotchli 03.02.2026 56:35
This episode is a deep conversation about ancestry, spirit, and the support available to us when we remember where we come from. I’m joined by my friend Ari Huitzilopotchli , who works with women in midlife navigating identity shifts, endings, and the space between who they were and who they’re becoming. This conversation is part of The Way Beneath the Work — a mini-series exploring what it really...
Ep. 1 - Holy shit! Here we go 27.01.2026 41:24
Holy shit friends—here we go. This podcast has been rattling around in my head for seven or eight years. For a long time, it felt like something I should do. Especially if you’re in the coaching world the message was - have a podcast, build the brand, do the thing. And honestly, that pressure is probably why I didn’t start it back then. This year, something shifted. It stopped being about my busin...
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