Charles Coplin and Mike Smith

Out of Our League

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Hosts and former NFL executives Charles Coplin and Mike Smith offer unique insight and perspective into the world of sports. Charles Coplin is an Emmy Award winning Producer and Programmer who has worked for four television networks, two American Sports Leagues, overseen shows with Beatles, Stones and Springsteen, and consulted with Russian media on how to create and grow sports fans. He sits at the apex of sports, entertainment and popular culture utilizing ever changing technologies to tell stories both live and on tape across multiple platforms. Mike Smith is the Founder of Huddle Advisory,...

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Charles Coplin and Mike Smith

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Jul 9, 2026

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Episodes

Sports are Messi and That's Why We Love Them 21.12.2022

That's a wrap on the World Cup. Mike and Charles examine the epic championship game from all angles including ratings, production and how this might impact the US market in the future. Wild finishes in the NFL with questionable officiating. Plus Sarver sells the Suns but Snyder remains, news and notes from this week's NFL Owners Meeting. Jason's Wormbyte and the Mike Smith Sports Mo...

The Commander Scandal in Washington 14.12.2022

Mike and Charles unpack the latest report regarding the NFL and the Washington Commanders and share personal experiences dealing with the principles. News and notes from the Special League Meeting this week in Dallas include a new salary cap that is affected by the ambiguity of Sunday Ticket and a potential NFL Media sale. Thoughts on a very bad slate of national December games including the Cleve...

Prime Time 06.12.2022

In an episode that features topics from around the world of sports, Mike and Charles discuss the early viewership success of the World Cup and the positive aspects of the gender equity payouts. They then turn to the NFL to discuss the somewhat under the radar return of Deshaun Watson as well as flexible scheduling scenarios and how decisions made for television can have a negative impact on teams...

There are No Dogs on the Streets of Doha 30.11.2022

Jason joins Mike and Charles from Qatar and takes us inside the Broadcast Center and on the ground in Doha. They talk about Fox's approach to the World Cup as well as it's coverage throughout a huge sports weekend.  NFL items include, why the country didn't get to see the thrilling conclusion of the Raiders/Seahawks game, why a great Thanksgiving led to a blah Sunday and Saturday mi...

On the ground live from the World Cup in Qatar!!! 23.11.2022

Jason joins us as our embedded reporter live from Doha, Qatar describing what it's like to walk the streets and why it takes 15,000 steps to get into the stadium. Then, Charles and Mike talk Thanksgiving Day… why the Lions keep playing, why Neil Young almost played Halftime, and why we'll see a lot of John Madden. They also squeeze in what happened behind the scenes to relocate the Bills...

It's not Manning, it's not Wednesday it's Saturday! 09.11.2022

Mike and Charles have off the radar observations on some bizarre events from the week in sports (Tom Brady/Alex Rodriguez/Ted Cruz) , the NBA's efforts around the Midterms, the fallout from Kyrie Irving's actions, the latest on the Commanders possible sale and the decision of Colts owner Jim Irsay to hire a Head Coach with no experience. They also discuss why Fenway Sports Group has put...

It's Not Always Sunny in Philadelphia 01.11.2022

 Mike and Charles talk about Monday's rain out forcing baseball Houston/Philadelphia vs NFL Houston/Philadelphia and predict which will rate higher. They also cover Niners fans owning LA, the NFL trade deadline and diva quarterbacks. Plus Kyrie Irving and the dysfunctional Nets, the class of Klay Thompson and a potential new NBA streaming deal. Jason's Wormbyte breaks down the new Big 12...

Owners vs. Owners...And Papa John's? 27.10.2022

Episode 31 of the Out of Our League podcast features an inside look at Colts owner Jim Irsay pushing for the removal of Commanders owner Daniel Snyder and a confrontation between Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and Patriots owner Robert Kraft over Commissioner Roger Goodell's compensation. Plus Mike has an interesting take on  how the Christian McCaffery trade relates to diversity, Adam Silver&apos...

Is this the end for Dan Snyder? 18.10.2022

Mike and Charles break down the NFL's Fall meeting including what is going on in Washington and the results of the Stan Kroenke LA/St Louis relocation litigation settlement. They have mixed reviews on the new baseball playoff format and make quick predictions for the NBA season. Plus this week's Wormbyte has Jason talking about the fan experience at the NY Giants game and of course the M...

Four Sports, Four Different Businesses 12.10.2022

It's October and all four major American Sports Leagues are in play. Mike and Charles discuss how the League is reacting behind the scenes to the controversial officiating around Quarterbacks, proposed European expansion in the NFL, the Draymond Green incident and the immediate impact of Scoot and Webanyama for the NBA, the playoff scheduling and ear probing in MLB and a curious way to start...

A Scary Moment for the NFL 05.10.2022

Mike and Charles discuss the ramifications of the Tua Tagovailoa concussion from Thursday Night's Game. They offer insight on the League Office Public Relations and Player Safety strategies going forward, discuss the risks of playing football on three days rest, and look at how new rights holder Amazon covered the injury and its aftermath throughout their broadcast. Then they pivot to MLB&apo...

Apple takes a bite out of Super Bowl Halftime 29.09.2022

Mike and Charles react to the Dolphins’ handling of Tua Tagovailoa’s injury and what it means for the NFL as a whole, the announcement of Rihanna as the first headliner of the Super Bowl Halftime Show sponsored by Apple Music, the NFL’s decision to reimagine the Pro Bowl, and more!  Plus, a clock-management inspired “Worm Byte” from Jason Wormser, “In or Out,” and  Trivia. Enjoy!

Billionaires Behaving Badly 21.09.2022

Mike and Charles react to Robert Sarver announcing that he is starting the process of selling the Phoenix Suns and Mercury, while drawing parallels to the NFL's ongoing investigation of Commanders Owner Daniel Snyder.  Then they discuss Amazon's Thursday Night Football debut, ESPN's Monday Night Football Doubleheader, MLB storylines in The Big Apple (TV) including MLB being the Judg...

NFL Kicks Off While the Premier League Takes a Pause 15.09.2022

Mike and Charles react to Week 1 of the 2022 NFL Season by discussing ESPN's new broadcast booth, high ratings, the impact of Dak Prescott's injury on the league's national TV schedule, and more! Then they discuss the pros and cons of the English Premier League canceling their weekend games due to the death of Queen Elizabeth. Plus, an NFL Redzone-inspired "Worm Byte," Cha...

It Feels Good To Football 07.09.2022

With the 2022 NFL Season kicking off this week, Mike and Charles discuss what it is like working at the League Office, Network or Club as everybody returns to work, share insight into how the Kickoff Game became a marquee event on the league’s calendar, swap stories about working with this year’s halftime performer Ozzy Osborne, and more!  Then they bring in Jason Wormser for his weekly “Worm Byte...

Browns, Dolphins, Oh My! 03.08.2022

Mike and Charles question whether the punishment fits the crime when it comes to Deshaun Watson's suspension ruling and the results of the NFL's decision on the Miami Dolphins. They put themselves inside the upcoming owners meeting to examine the intrigue and fallout.  Then they bring in Jason Wormser for his weekly "Worm Byte" on the transformational moment in Women's Soc...

Is NFL+ a Plus? 27.07.2022

Mike and Charles react to the introduction of NFL+ and discuss a handful of other NFL financial topics including the Packers' latest financial report, Heinz Field becoming Acrisure Stadium, what it's like to work at the league during the offseason, and more.  Then they discuss MLB's continued struggles and longtime sports media executive Jason Wormser joins the pod for a Sunday Tick...

JLo "Rocs" Halftime + Goodell Zooms to Congress 29.06.2022

Mike and Charles dissect the controversies that arose from Jennifer Lopez's Halftime documentary on Netflix, react to Roger Goodell's chaotic appearance in front of Congress via Zoom, and discuss Gary Bettman missing the Stanley Cup trophy presentation due to COVID.  Then they talk about F1's new rights deal with ESPN and Michael Rubin selling his ownership stake in the Philadelphia...

20. Is The PGA Missing the Cut? 23.06.2022

Mike and Charles react to a US Open clouded by the shadow of the LIV, break down Roger Goodell's decision to appear in front of Congress via zoom, while Dan Snyder declined to appear at all.  Then they discuss the 2026 World Cup Host City selection process and the influence of NFL owners on the decision. Table Z talks about crowd rituals under the shadow of low Stanley Cup ratings. Plus &quot...

19. Apple Takes a Bite of MLS 15.06.2022

Mike and Charles quickly run through the current media state of the NBA Finals and the upcoming Stanley Cup Final series.  Mike breaks down the Rams' seemingly unlimited spending, why their "F Them Picks" strategy works, and how SoFi Stadium factors into the equation.  Then they dive into MLS' massive 10-year deal with Apple by breaking down both the financial and production im...

18. Why? 08.06.2022

Mike and Charles talk about Mike's roller coaster of a week while winning another darts championship and losing in the stanley cup playoffs in the "Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week". They also explain: WHY the NHL wants a Rangers Stanley Cup Final WHY the NBA Finals may be struggling to build an audience WHY there could be dissension among the owners in the NFL and optimism abou...

17. The Wide World of Sports on TV 01.06.2022

Mike and Charles ponder why the Novak Djokovic vs. Rafael Nadal French Open match was so hard to find on TV and react to the pre-match drama at the Champions League Final.  Then they come back stateside to discuss the NHL Playoffs, the NBA Finals and Tommy Pham's slam of Joc Pederson.  They wrap up with a Table Z discussion of Fantasy Sports, "In or Out," an NBA Finals trivia questi...

16. The NCAA's Latest Mess 25.05.2022

Mike and Charles discuss the current state of the NBA Playoffs and react to the latest news in European Soccer.  Then they break down the Jimbo Fisher vs. Nick Saban feud before bringing on the Gen-Z roundtable to talk through how the NCAA can adapt to the new world of NIL.  They wrap up the show with a round of "In or Out," go back in time for a Top Gun related trivia question, and name...

How the NFL stole Christmas 18.05.2022

Mike and Charles react to the 76ers’ disappointing end to their season and the Suns’ shocking Game 7 loss to Luka Dončić and the Mavericks.  Then they break down the NFL’s Schedule Reveal, discuss which teams, and media partners, should be upset and who should be happy, and explain why the Christmas Day games may be bad news for the NBA.  To end the show, Mike and Charles play NFL Commissioner-for...

Tom Brady signs with FOX, now what? Plus, how do you make the NFL Schedule? 11.05.2022

Mike and Charles react to Tom Brady's plan to join FOX once his playing career is over,  break down what it's like to be in the room when the NFL Schedule is made, discuss Formula 1's successful weekend in Miami, a few longshots who beat the odds, and more!   

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