Matt Wensing & Peter Suhm

Out of Beta

Business EN ↓ 168 episodes

Follow our journey as we build and launch two startups. Hosted by Matt Wensing, founder of Summit, and Peter Suhm, founder of Reform.

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Matt Wensing & Peter Suhm

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Business

Podcast website

outofbeta.fm

Latest episode

Dec 4, 2024

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Episodes

Emergency podcast: Matt's news 04.12.2024

Tap, tap. Is this thing still working? Matt has some news to share with the listeners.

2023 Async — Finale 30.12.2023

Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change. Matt Peter Summit Reform

2023 Async — Consolidation (9 of 9) 18.12.2023

Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change. Matt Peter Summit Reform

2023 Async — Progress (8 of 9) 18.12.2023

Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change. Matt Peter Summit Reform

2023 Async — A local high (7 of 9) 18.12.2023

Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change. Matt Peter Summit Reform

2023 Async — Reset (6 of 9) 18.12.2023

Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change. Matt Peter Summit Reform

2023 Async — It's working (5 of 9) 18.12.2023

Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change. Matt Peter Summit Reform

2023 Async — Closing deals (4 of 9) 18.12.2023

Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change. Matt Peter Summit Reform

2023 Async — Experimentation (3 of 9) 18.12.2023

Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change. Matt Peter Summit Reform

2023 Async — Suspense (2 of 9) 18.12.2023

Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change. Matt Peter Summit Reform

2023 Async — Big goals (1 of 9) 18.12.2023

Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change. Matt Peter Summit Reform

2023 Async — Intro 18.12.2023

Even though the podcast took a publishing break in 2023, Matt and Peter kept recording. This is the story of Summit and Reform in 2023 — a year full of change. Matt Peter Summit Reform

Updates + the future of the podcast 18.01.2023

In this episode, Matt and Peter share an update on Summit and Reform with the listeners. They also share what the future plans are for the podcast. Is this the last episode?

Why we’re taking a break 01.12.2022

Matt feels the effects of going truly viral on Twitter and now half the internet thinks he is a Twitter 10x engineer (and half think he is a comedian). Peter’s Tailwind gig comes to a close so he’s thinking about what’s next with Reform. This episode also brings the current Out of Beta season to an end, as Matt and Peter take a short break. They’ll be back. Sponsor - Recast Thank you to this month...

Working in Bets 17.11.2022

Peter finds he has 4 million test rows in his database and needs to do something about them without breaking everything, while he still tries to nail down how to position Reform. Who exactly is Reform for and how does he communicate that? Matt is bringing a series of bets to a close and making some important changes, such as a move away from usage-based pricing. Sponsor - Recast Thank you to this...

Why you need a board 10.11.2022

Peter reflects on the new integration with Less Annoying CRM, how a potential new Reform website would look like and his plans to double down on SEO. Matt is also seeing how SEO is having a positive effect on his rankings for Summit, while he figures out some more use cases for the calculators. Matt rounds off talking about his potentially controversial opinion on why startups of all sizes should...

Ups and Downs 02.11.2022

Peter has been away in the States, and quite liked his co-founder Bjorn taking care of support. Matt, meanwhile, has not been feeling much of a spark this week but brainstormed some new ideas for distribution. Sponsor - Recast Thank you to this month’s sponsor, Recast, a tool that helps podcasters turn long form video and audio content into short clips for social media, like TikTok, Instagram and...

Niches on the horizon 20.10.2022

Matt’s Summit Chrome extension is live, meaning you can now get a calculator in just a click, and so he’s exploring new calculators to use with it. Peter is still sick but is working through it by getting deep into customer research, figuring out the best customers for Reform. Both Matt and Peter have horizontal products, so they discuss how this both helps and hinders them Sponsor Interested in s...

Those vexing questions 13.10.2022

After a brief break, Matt and Peter are back with the maker manager format. Matt’s been building more calculators for Summit while kicking up the gears for sales and marketing. Peter’s founder hiking retreat was a success and he is now in strategic thinking mode. What’s next for Reform? Sponsor Thank you to this month's sponsor,  Eduflow  (build internal courses for your company) ! Eduflow makes i...

Distribution 28.09.2022

This week, Peter is sick, but shows up to record the pod and talk Reform integrations, including one upcoming with Less Annoying CRM. Not being at 100% highlights why having a good cofounder can make a big difference. Matt is in the final stages of getting his Summit Chrome extension live, so is figuring out how he gets distribution for the app, which will include a Summit Free Calculator marketpl...

Keep Pushing 15.09.2022

This week, Matt is working like a mad scientist to build a Chrome extension that will essentially eliminate onboarding for new Summit calculator users. Peter is running on low sleep, which is causing a bit of a creative bottleneck for Reform. He wants to keep the momentum after Reform's recent marketing wins and is sponsoring three newsletters in one week. Sponsor Thank you to this month's sponsor...

Pivoting and choosing a profitable path - The Eduflow Story part 3 of 3 08.09.2022

Thank you to this month's sponsor, Eduflow (build internal courses for your company) ! Eduflow makes it really easy to build out courses and training material for your employees, customers, and other collaborators. It's a great way to onboard a new team member or train your sales team etc. Listeners of Out of Beta get 50% off Eduflow Pro for one year, by going to Eduflow.com/outofbeta . Interested...

Engineering Growth 07.09.2022

Matt has recently been focusing on top of funnel traffic for Summit and his free example calculators have been doing that very job. He’s on the look out for more ideas (like the FIRE calculator ). Peter is trying to figure out how to fix Reform’s growth plateau. It seems launching a few new features and a discounted annual deal has got things moving in the right direction. Sponsor Thank you to thi...

The launch episode (2022 version) 01.09.2022

It’s been a big launch week for Matt and Peter. Matt launched the new version of Summit with its new positioning, along with a different approach to their pricing model (goodbye unlimited freemium, hello usage-based). Peter has also been busy with Reform, shipping a host of new features that should take the product to the next level. Saving progress, CRM integrations and more means Reform can comp...

Soft Launch 19.08.2022

Thank you to this month's sponsor, Eduflow (build internal courses for your company) ! Eduflow makes it really easy to build out courses and training material for your employees, customers, and other collaborators. It's a great way to onboard a new team member or train your sales team etc. Listeners of Out of Beta get 50% off Eduflow Pro for one year, by going to Eduflow.com/outofbeta . Interested...

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