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OT After Hours

OT After Hours, a podcast about operational technology security, brings you candid conversations with ICS engineers and experts who get the unique challenges you face. Join us for unfiltered stories and advice from the front lines of industrial cybersecurity as we share best practices, lessons learned, and a few laughs along the way.

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Rockwell Automation

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Technology

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www.rockwellautomation.com

Latest episode

May 20, 2026

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Episodes

Human Factors and Plant Relationships 20.05.2026

Important note: this episode is part two of of a discussion that began last week on the Industrial Cybersecurity Insider podcast. Before you listen, check out that episode ...or watch it on YouTube ! In this episode of OT After Hours , Ken Kully (Delivery Readiness at Rockwell Automation) is joined by Dino Busalachi (Director at BW Design Group), Lance Lamont (Special Projects & Protocols Team Lea...

Farewell Party 22.04.2026

In this episode of OT After Hours, Ken Kully (Delivery Readiness at Rockwell Automation) is joined Lance Lamont (Special Projects & Protocols Team Lead at Rockwell Automation), to bid a bittersweet farewell to  Natalie Kalinowski , who is leaving Rockwell after 4 years to take on a new and exciting opportunity. But leave it to Natalie to bring up one last timely topic, in this case the importance...

Global Cyber and Physical Attacks 27.03.2026

In this episode of OT After Hours, Ken Kully (Systems Support Lead for Rockwell SecureOT) is joined by Natalie Kalinowski (Network & Cybersecurity Specialist), and Mustafa Aamir (Application Consultant Cyber-NCS), for a timely discussion about the December 2025 cyber attack on Poland's power infrastructure, a contemporaneous physical infrastructure attack in Germany, and cyber attacks that have su...

What's in a Name? 21.01.2026

In this episode of OT After Hours, Ken Kully (Systems Support Lead for Rockwell SecureOT), sits down with Rick Kaun (Global Director of Cybersecurity Sales), Natalie Kalinowski (Network & Cybersecurity Specialist), and Lance Lamont (Special Projects & Protocols Team Lead), for a lengthy discussion about IT/OT convergence, how Rockwell's SecureOT platform can enable and accelerate advanced security...

Predictions, Old and New! 18.12.2025

In this episode of OT After Hours, Ken Kully (Systems Support Lead for Rockwell SecureOT), sits down with Natalie Kalinowski (Network & Cybersecurity Specialist), Lance Lamont (Special Projects & Protocols Team Lead), Zach Woltjer (Technical Account Manager), and Rick Herzing (Systems Support Analyst) The team reviews last year's predictions for 2025 in industrial cybersecurity, confirming that mo...

Back from Automation Fair 26.11.2025

In this episode of OT After Hours, Ken Kully (Systems Support Lead for Rockwell SecureOT), sits down with Natalie Kalinowski (Network & Cybersecurity Specialist), Tyler Bergman (Operations Team Lead) and Lance Lamont (Special Projects & Protocols Team Lead) to discuss the recently-concluded Rockwell Automation Fair . And if you weren't able to attend Automation Fair, you can still find videos and...

Live from Verve Developers Gathering 30.10.2025

In this episode of OT After Hours, Lance Lamont , Special Projects & Protocols Team Lead, sits down with Tyler Bergman (Operations Team Lead) and Richard Melito (Senior Software Engineer) to discuss Richard's history at Verve and now Rockwell, the development process for Verve's software, and what standout features are in version 1.42 of the Verve Security Center (VSC). This episode was recorded a...

The SkillBridge Path 28.08.2025

In this episode of OT After Hours, host Ken Kully , Systems Support Lead at Verve Industrial, sits down with Zach Woltjer and Connor Murphy , Technical Account Managers at Rockwell Automation to explore how the U.S. Department of Defense's SkillBridge program is helping veterans transition into civilian careers in OT cybersecurity. Zach shares how his own journey through SkillBridge not only eased...

From a TRS-80 to OT Cybersecurity 22.08.2025

In this episode, we trace the career of Tyler Bergman , Operations Team Lead at Rockwell Automation (formerly Verve Industrial), whose early fascination with computers and programming sparked a path that led through SCADA operations, utility cooperatives, and consulting before finding a home in OT cybersecurity. Join host Ken Kully , Systems Support Lead at Verve Industrial, as Tyler shares how pe...

From Snowboarding Slopes to Securing OT Networks 15.08.2025

In this episode, we follow the unique career journey of Natalie Kalinowski , Network & Cybersecurity Specialist at Verve Industrial, from teaching snowboard lessons to managing complex industrial network security. Join host Ken Kully , Systems Support Lead at Verve Industrial, as Natalie shares how international internships, early career programs, and continuous learning shaped her expertise—and h...

From Embedded Developer to OT Protocol Sleuth 08.08.2025

In this episode, we explore how an embedded-systems engineer became the leader of Verve's Special Projects & Protocols team—and what his journey says about recruiting, culture, and continuous learning in OT security. Join host Ken Kully , Systems Support Lead at Verve Industrial, and his guest Lance Lamont , Manager for Special Projects & Protocols, as they discuss career pivots, protocol reverse-...

From Craft Cocktails to Control Systems 30.07.2025

In this episode, we trace an unlikely career pivot from fine‑dining bartender to the helm of Verve's OT cybersecurity lab. Join host Ken Kully , Systems Support Lead at Verve Industrial, and his guest Andrew Wintermeyer , Team Lead, Device & Integration Research, as the latter discusses breaking into the field, learning on the fly, and why forgotten manuals can be more dangerous than zero‑days. Ke...

Lightweight Forensics With Verve Reporting 27.06.2025

In this episode, we take a look at how Verve Reporting, and in particular its ability to search and filter logs, can be useful for high-level forensic investigation. Join host Ken Kully , Systems Support Lead at Verve Industrial, and his guests Dustin Gogue (Technical Account Manager), Andrew Wintermyer (Team Lead, Device & Integration Research) and Zach Woltjer (ICS Security Specialist) as they d...

The CIA Triad in OT & Automation 21.05.2025

In this episode, we grapple with a deceptively simple question: in an operational technology environment, which element of the CIA triad—confidentiality, integrity or availability—should reign supreme? Join host Ken Kully , Systems Support Lead at Verve Industrial, and his guests Natalie Kalinowski (OT Security Analyst), Tyler Bergman (Industrial Cybersecurity Engineer) and Zach Woltjer (ICS Secur...

To CVE or Not to CVE? 23.04.2025

In this episode, we explore how often OT teams really need to refresh asset-inventory data and what MITRE's near-miss funding lapse for the CVE program means for vulnerability management. Join host Ken Kully , Systems Support Lead at Verve Industrial , and his guests Natalie Kalinowski ( OT Security Specialist ), Lance Lamont ( Team Lead, Special Projects & Protocols ), Andrew Wintermeyer ( Senior...

Active vs. Passive 19.03.2025

In this episode, we explore the complexities of asset management in operational technology (OT) security. Join host Ken Kully, Systems Support Lead at Verve Industrial, and his guests Tyler Bergman, Zachary Woltjer, Natalie Kalinowski, and Lance Lamont as they discuss the challenges of tracking and securing assets in industrial environments, the impact of legacy systems, and the best strategies fo...

Asset Inventory 19.02.2025

In this episode, we explore the challenges and best practices for identifying and inventorying assets in operational technology (OT) environments. Join host Ken Kully, Systems Support Lead at Verve Industrial, along with guests Lance Lamont, Andrew Wintermeyer, Tyler Bergman, and Rick Herzing, as they discuss how to establish trust, safely discover assets, and navigate network complexities without...

What's Next in OT? 18.12.2024

In this episode, we delve into the pressing challenges and exciting opportunities in OT cybersecurity as we look toward 2025. Join host Ken Kully, Systems Support Lead at Verve Industrial, and his guests Natalie Kalinowski, Tyler Bergman, and Zach Woltjer as they share insights on industry trends, compliance requirements, and the evolving role of AI in securing operational environments. Key Takeaw...

Cyber (Im)Maturity 20.11.2024

In this episode, we explore the evolving challenges of cybersecurity maturity in operational technology (OT) environments. Join host Ken Kully, Systems Support Lead at Verve Industrial, and his guests Lauren Blocker, Industrial Cybersecurity Consulting Partner at Rockwell Automation; Drew Wintermyer from Verve's OT Research Lab; Zachary Woltjer from the Customer Success Team; Tyler Bergman, Operat...

The Auto Wreckers of OT 11.10.2024

In this episode, we dive into the challenges of managing legacy operational technology (OT) systems. Join host Ken Kully, Systems Support Lead at Verve Industrial, and his guests Tyler Bergman, Doug Artze, Dylan Stencil, and Andrew Wintermeyer, as they discuss the complexities of legacy systems, spare parts ("grey") markets, and the importance of security in maintaining older technologies. They ex...

A Calculated Risk 11.09.2024

In this episode, we explore the concept of Calculated Risk Rating (CRR) and its importance in OT cybersecurity. Join host Ken Kully , Systems Support Lead at Verve Industrial, and his guests – Zachary Woltjer, Cyber Data Analyst at Verve, and Lance Lamont – as they discuss how to prioritize and address vulnerabilities in industrial environments. Key Takeaways Calculated Risk Rating helps tailor cy...

The Case for Active OT Security 28.08.2024

In this episode, we explore the challenges and benefits of active detection in OT security environments. Join host Ken Kully , Systems Support Lead at Verve Industrial, and his guests Rick Kaun and Sally Mellinger as they discuss the limitations of passive detection and the importance of comprehensive asset inventory in industrial cybersecurity. Key Takeaways Passive detection, while useful, has s...

The Crowdstrike Incident: Lessons for OT Cybersecurity 31.07.2024

In this episode, we explore the implications of the recent Crowdstrike incident for OT cybersecurity. Join host Ken Kully , Systems Support Lead at Verve Industrial, and his guests Tyler Bergman and Ryan Zahn as they discuss the impact of IT security tools on OT environments, the importance of staged rollouts, and the delicate balance between automated updates and manual controls. Key Takeaways: T...

OT Security is a Program 17.07.2024

In this episode, we explore the importance of treating OT security as a comprehensive program rather than a collection of individual functions. Join host Ken Kully, Cyber Tech Lead at Verve Industrial, and his guest Rick Kaun, VP of Sales at Verve Industrial, as they discuss the challenges of implementing OT security, the differences between IT and OT approaches, and the need for a holistic view o...

What is OT? 12.06.2024

In our second episode, we ask the question: "what is OT?", and attempt to provide an answer. Join host Ken Kully, Cyber Tech Lead at Verve Industrial, and his guests and colleagues Lance Lamont, Tyler Bergman, Doug Artze, and Drew Wintermyer as they discuss what characterizes an OT environment and OT equipment, the impact of IT/OT convergence on distinguishing one realm from the other, and how a d...

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