Kaisa & Alenka
Onchain, Honestly!
Onchain, Honestly is a conversation with the operators actually building crypto companies. Kaisa and Alenka sit down with founders and leaders to talk about what the pitch decks leave out: go-to-market, hiring, revenue, real traction, and the unglamorous mechanics of turning a protocol or product into a business. No hype, no theater. Just honest conversations about what works, what doesn't, and what it actually takes to build onchain.
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Episodes
Onchain, Honestly! Ep. 10 ft. Aptos - Are Generalized Blockchains Dead? 09.07.2026 46:13
In this episode, Ashwin Pampati, Senior Vice President at Aptos Foundation, discusses how Aptos is evolving from generalized blockchain infrastructure into a more focused ecosystem built around trading, stablecoin movement, and AI-related infrastructure. We cover how the foundation thinks about building and incubating products and why financial applications in crypto now require a much higher bar...
Onchain, Honestly! Ep. 9 - Inside Symbiotic’s Pivot: From Restaking to an RWA Liquidity Layer 01.07.2026 36:41
In this episode, Henrique Sousa Dias, Product Lead for Liquid Lane at Symbiotic, discusses why liquidity has become one of the biggest bottlenecks for tokenized assets and what it will take for RWAs, credit, and on-chain finance to scale. We cover how Symbiotic is expanding beyond restaking into a broader capital efficiency layer, how Liquid Lane aims to make tokenized assets more liquid and compo...
Onchain, Honestly! Ep. 8 ft. Zerion - Does the Fat Wallet Thesis Still Stand? Zerion’s Next Bets 23.06.2026 52:08
In this episode, Abi Dharshan, Head of Product at Zerion discusses how they evolved from a DeFi portfolio tracker into a wallet infrastructure company powering both consumer and B2B crypto experiences. We cover why wallets remain one of the most important interfaces in crypto, how Zerion thinks about the wallet as distribution and data as the business, and why high-quality interpreted wallet data...
Onchain, Honestly! Ep. 7 ft. Figure - Can Real-World Credit Scale Through DeFi? 18.06.2026 1:09:48
In this episode, Aaron Kong, Director of Decentralized Finance at Figure, discusses how they are building capital markets infrastructure to make real-world credit faster, cheaper, and more accessible onchain. We cover how Figure became one of the largest non-bank HELOC originators in the US and how much blockchain rails help reduce origination costs and improve loan execution. We also discuss Figu...
Onchain, Honestly! Ep.6 ft. Theo - How To Scale Tokenized Finance? 09.06.2026 1:11:27
In this episode, Iggy Ioppe, Chief Investment Officer at Theo, discusses how Theo is building a 3.0 generation of RWA products designed to make traditional financial markets usable onchain. We cover why tokenization alone is not enough, how much of today’s financial infrastructure still runs on outdated rails, and why many early RWA products have struggled to move beyond tokenization theater into...
Onchain, Honestly! Ep.5 ft. Gauntlet - Is This DeFi´s Last Summer? 02.06.2026 48:20
In this episode, Nicholas Cannon, Chief Business Officer at Gauntlet, discusses how data-driven risk curation is helping DeFi become safer, more resilient, and easier to access at scale. We cover how wallets, neo-banks, and enterprise integrations are becoming key distribution channels for onchain strategies, why Gauntlet currently sets performance fees at zero as part of a growth-first approach,...
Onchain, Honestly! Ep.4 ft. Serotonin - Onchain Credit: What´s Real And What´s Next? 21.05.2026 32:55
In this episode, Patryk Krasnicki, Director of Research at Serotonin, discusses the evolving onchain credit landscape and how crypto credit markets are moving beyond short-term, crypto-native lending. We cover the main categories shaping the space, including credit issuance, capital allocation, infrastructure, and risk management, as well as why overcollateralized lending, tokenized institutional...
Onchain, Honestly! Ep.3 ft. Miden - Launching a Privacy Blockchain In 2026 19.05.2026 51:17
In this episode, we sit down with Azeem, Co-founder of Miden, to talk about what it actually takes to build a privacy-focused blockchain from the ground up. We get into what Miden is building, how its Guardian feature works, the common misconceptions people still have about privacy in crypto, and how Miden stacks up against others in the space. Featuring: Azeem — Co-founder of Miden Chapters 00:00...
Onchain, Honestly! Ep.2 - Where Crypto Is Now: Native Builders Meet Institutions 12.05.2026 49:06
In this episode, we use EthCC in Cannes as a starting point of where the crypto industry is right now. We talk about the current market shif...
Onchain, Honestly! Ep.1 ft. Polygon - How Blockchains Make Money Today: Polygon Labs´s FinTech Pivot 05.05.2026 45:31
In this episode, Aishwarya Gupta, the Global Head of Business at Polygon Labs, gives a deep dive into how Polygon Labs is building a sustainable enterprise business. We cover Polygon’s full-stack strategy across wallets, stablecoins, interoperability, compliance, enterprise APIs, and ZK infrastructure, and why the next generation of blockchain ecosystems will be judged by real customers, recurring...
Welcome to Onchain, Honestly! 24.04.2026 12:05
This podcast explores what actually works in the onchain economy as a business. We are long-term believers in the space, but we also believe it needs more honest conversations about how it works in practice. That means looking beyond narratives and focusing on business models, incentives, and outcomes — what drives value today, and what it really takes to operate behind the scenes. Have a listen...
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