On the Road to No Place Left

When we last left our conversation about how to stick as a pioneer, Chuck Wood II and I noted that pioneering work requires thinking of the next generation. Chuck has done a masterful job capturing 12 key ingredients needed to multiply generations. He already started posting them! Today we start a series of conversations about those posts. I hope you enjoy it. Even more, I hope you can glean some...

Chuck Wood II and I chat through the type of person we need in our lives and how that’s also the type of person we need to be in others’ lives. Quotes Not even Jesus had a Messiah complex. He enlisted these guys to steward the Kingdom of God. AI is like fire. It can be very helpful and very destructive. Use with caution. The best teachers are people that are just one or two steps ahead. When someb...

Chuck Wood II and I discuss how pioneers came and went in the book of Acts. Read the original article here: https://pheaney.substack.com/p/sending-and-going-in-acts Quotes: You don’t need an official church memo to go share the gospel with a neighbor or to open up a spiritual conversation with a coworker. Jesus has given you all the authority you need. You want to hear the Holy Spirit? Read the bo...

Chuck Wood II and I discuss various dips in ministry that every pioneer needs to be prepared to work through. Quotes: “If you wait until you’re in the middle of the dip to start grabbing for relationships, it’s too late.” “Do you care whose name gets on it, or can you be okay with someone else getting their name on it?” “What is God doing in me versus through me?” “What got you to one level might...

Chuck Wood II and I chat about a really, really important topic in ministry: Being on the same page with your spouse. Quotes : * If we have active disagreement, we at least know where we stand. But if we have passive indifference… that can lead to a whole lot of other things that never get dealt with.” * “When you’re single, you just throw your gear in the back of the Humvee and take off. But when...

Chuck Wood II and I have a great conversation about something all pioneers need. Read the original article here: https://pheaney.substack.com/p/the-importance-of-community Quotes: It’s not the container, it’s the contents. It’s about the people and are we fellowshipping in such a way that we’re being transformed into the image of Christ? Whether that’s a big building or a living room, it can go so...

This might be my favorite conversation with Chuck Wood II yet. We talk about my last post, Pioneers Aren’t Busy: https://pheaney.substack.com/p/pioneers-arent-busy Quotes: The trap we can fall into when we're in ministry and when we're pioneering is assuming that whatever we're doing is what we should be doing. Am I too busy to meet with Jesus? If you're not meeting with Jesus each day, you know,...

Based on my last post, Lament to Fight Discouragement (https://pheaney.substack.com/p/lament-to-fight-discouragement), Chuck Wood II and I talk about the importance of having honest conversations with God when you are discouraged. Quotes: While it's awesome to launch someone, there's also some grief that comes with that. Those have to go hand in hand. They're actually going to be right there at th...

Chuck Wood II and I talk about the dangers of being a reductionist in ministry. Read the article we discussed here: https://pheaney.substack.com/p/beware-reductionism Quotes: The trap we can fall into is being too reductionistic with ministry and how we go about it, thinking if I just follow a few easy steps: Boom, we're going to turn out a movement. Or if I do A, B, and C, then I'm going to have...

Chuck Wood II and I talk about what happens if we hold on to our familiar tools too tightly. This is a conversation about my blog post: https://pheaney.substack.com/p/learn-to-drop-your-familiar-tools Quotes: That's the one thing that Jesus came off the top ropes on the Pharisees for: You elevate your traditions above the commands of God. We don't want to get sideways with Jesus over tools, you kn...

Chuck Wood II and I talk about the two main traps we can fall into, thinking we’re being productive for the Kingdom. Quotes: In modern knowledge work, and it can also be true in ministry, there's a lot of things that we don't actually have an accurate, real measurement of how they might contribute to the bottom line. I think a lot of our results are measured by obedience versus outcome. Did I spen...

Chuck Wood II and I discuss Riding the Wave: https://pheaney.substack.com/p/riding-the-wave Quotes: I love that idea of perfectly unrushed... For being fully God and outside of time in one sense, it's awesome to see what fully God, fully man looked like just walking in time, never busy... always with things grabbing for his time, but never hurried, never rushed. A soldier is built for war, not for...

Chuck Wood II and I discuss a surprising way to persevere if you’re in a season of ministry that feels like the prophet Jeremiah. This conversation is based on my post, The Progress Principle: https://pheaney.substack.com/p/the-progress-principle Quotes: If your leaders are not asking you questions that facilitate rest and recreation, you might wanna find different leaders because your wheels are...

Chuck Wood II and I talk about how to conduct an autopsy when something in ministry isn’t going as you thought, or is an outright flop. This conversation is based on this post: https://pheaney.substack.com/p/how-to-fail-forward Quotes: The original intent is the idea that we failed. But we're moving forward because we learned something from that failure. I think we can misuse it if we just say it...

You cannot head out on your own in ministry. Listen in as Chuck Wood II and I discuss my latest post: https://pheaney.substack.com/p/pioneers-dont-go-it-alone Quotes: We need to remember we're standing on the shoulders of giants. So even as we're pioneers in any context, we need to remember there's people that have come before us. Character is very important, but let's also put having people that...

Chuck Wood II and I discuss what defines Pioneering Work from my latest post: https://pheaney.substack.com/p/what-is-pioneering-work . Quotes: We're looking to fully hold on to the ground we take for the kingdom. Not just check it out a little bit or drop three seeds and then head back to the city. The first adjustment might not be any movement whatsoever other than just get your life oriented aro...

Another conversation with Chuck Wood II where we discuss my latest post on pioneering: https://pheaney.substack.com/p/we-need-you-to-go-first Season 9: On Pioneering/How to Stick, Episode 4. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit pheaney.substack.com

Chuck Wood II interviews me about my latest post for pioneers: What is the Goal? Read it here: https://pheaney.substack.com/p/what-is-the-goal-018 Season 9: On Pioneering/How to Stick, Episode 3. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit pheaney.substack.com

Chuck Wood II interviews me on the concept of sticking with it in ministry. You can (and should!) read the original post here: https://pheaney.substack.com/p/we-need-you-to-stick Season 9: On Pioneering/How to Stick; Episode 2: This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit pheaney.substack.com

Welcome to the start of Season 9 of the On the Road Podcast. I’ve had a few years now of sporadic episodes, but starting with this one, there should be a regular rhythm of new episodes for a while. Chuck Wood II interviews me about the first post in my new series: On Pioneering . The conversation will make a lot more sense if you start by reading this short blog post: https://pheaney.substack.com/...

What does it look like to see God birth new churches among lost people? All around America there are bonafide living and breathing churches, filled with disciples of Jesus. These disciples used to be far from God. And these churches have cost nothing to start. Many of them are reproducing. In On the Road Season 4, we’ll be sharing stories of God working in and through these $0 churches. I can’t wa...

Cory & Brian from the Kansas City Underground discuss the importance of a little structure in supporting decentralized movement work. Towards the end, we talk about a visual that you can’t see on my audio-only podcast, but you can find when they cross-publish this same episode on the KC Underground Podcast: https://kcunderground.org/podcast KC Underground Site: https://kcunderground.org/ Hub Prime...

I really enjoyed this interview with Chris Keener about a mathematical model behind movements. That sentence alone scared me at first, but diving into his article and then dialoguing the concepts with him has really helped me think through how I’m approaching the task of multiplying disciples. Show Notes: Published Article: A Mathematically Based Model of Disciple Making Movements Previous Convers...

This is a follow-up conversation with Emanuel Prinz about his book “What Actually Starts Movements.” I had some additional questions to ask, and I think you’ll enjoy these key insights about teams, insiders/outsiders, and funding. (Check out minute marks below for specific topics). Here is our previous conversation: https://pheaney.substack.com/p/what-actually-starts-movements Minute Marks APEST a...

When I have conversations with Emanuel Prinz, I feel like I’m sitting down with the equivalent of Jim Collins in the business world. Instead of being satisfied with anecdotal stories, he and a research team have dug into hundreds of Gospel-movements worldwide to see what is actually happening and how we can emulate it. Emanuel Prinz helps ministries grow to movements. Find out more: www.catalyticl...