On the Journey

Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on "Dei Verbum," the Second Vatican Council's document on Divine Revelation. Who has the authority to interpret the Bible? What safeguards exist to make sure that Christians of today believe the same things about Scripture that the early Christians believed? What criteria should Christians use when approaching God's Word and understa...

Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on Dei Verbum, the Second Vatican Council's document on Divine Revelation. How does God reveal his Word to humanity? How did the Holy Spirit and the human authors of Scripture collaborate to transmit the message of salvation? By what means has this revelation been preserved and handed down? And how does the Catholic understanding of...

Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on Dei Verbum, the Second Vatican Council's document on Divine Revelation. What does it mean to say that Jesus is the Word of God made flesh? And how does that inform the way that Catholics approach the reading and proclamation of Sacred Scripture? Matt, Ken, and Kenny discuss the similarities and differences between this approach an...

Many are familiar with the fact that the Catholic Church does not hold to the Reformation doctrine of "sola Scriptura."  But what *does* the Catholic Church teach about God's Word? Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard begin a new series unpacking "Dei Verbum," the Catholic Church's official document on Divine Revelation from the Second Vatican Council. They begin by looking at the historical...

Kenny Burchard joins Matt Swaim and Ken Hensley to share the story of how he finally ended up becoming Catholic. Having left Pentecostal ministry, Kenny ended up looking at a few possible church environments that he thought he and his family might be able to call home. But at the end of all of it, he found that God was calling them to the last place he ever expected: the Catholic Church. More epis...

Kenny Burchard continues to share with Matt Swaim and Ken Hensley the story of his journey to the Catholic Faith. Kenny shares the series of experiences and the process of discernment that led him to step away from ministry as a pastor in the Foursquare Church. He discusses three watershed moments that led him to believe that whatever God had in store for him, it was somewhere besides a Pentecosta...

Kenny Burchard continues to share with Matt Swaim and Ken Hensley the story of his journey to the Catholic Faith. When Kenny, who had been a Pentecostal pastor, told some friends he was considering becoming Catholic, he was asked why he'd want to join a church that had gone through so many scandals. For Kenny, this was a question that hit close to home, because every Christian group he'd ever been...

Kenny Burchard continues to share with Matt Swaim and Ken Hensley the story of his journey to the Catholic Faith. As Kenny discovered more and more divisions among Christians, he became increasingly unsettled by them. He and his wife got into ministry together in the Pentecostal world, but their experience of everything from Christian radio to Christian bookstores and more overloaded them -- was i...

Kenny Burchard continues to share with Matt Swaim and Ken Hensley the story of his journey to the Catholic Faith. As Kenny tried to find his way in his new life as a Christian, the question of where he fit among fellow believers became front and center. He started to realize that there were lots of different interpretations of Scripture, and lots of different potential voices to follow. He began t...

Kenny Burchard continues to share with Matt Swaim and Ken Hensley the story of his journey to the Catholic Faith. At the end of the last episode, Kenny was a brand new, "born-again" Christian. He shares how in that first year that followed, his zeal overflowed in ways that ended up damaging relationships. He was passionate about his newfound faith, but without mentors to help show him how to live...

In a new series of On the Journey, Kenny Burchard begins to share with Matt Swaim and Ken Hensley the story of his journey to the Catholic Faith. Kenny starts at the very beginning: from being given up for adoption by Catholic parents, to being adopted by parents who didn't practice religion at all, to growing up around Mormons in Utah and eventually having a "born again" experience in the 1980's ...

Ken Hensley was a Baptist Pastor, and Kenny Burchard presided over a Pentecostal congregation. What did they think about the word "apostolic?" Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley, and Kenny Burchard discuss what kinds of things came to mind in regard to the word "apostolic," and what they thought, and currently think, about carrying on the apostolic mission of Jesus. More episodes : Support our work  

Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the Church. The Catholic Church has four marks: it is one, holy, catholic, and apostolic. As they dig even deeper into the meaning of the word “catholic,” Matt, Ken, and Kenny look at how the Church is meant to be a home for all people, and expands Christ's mission to the ends of the earth, as the instrument of God's work in the w...

Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the Church. The Catholic Church has four marks: it is one, holy, catholic, and apostolic. As they dig even deeper into the meaning of the word "catholic," Matt, Ken, and Kenny look at what the Catechism has to say about other forms of Christianity, and even other religions. As former Evangelical Protestants who became Catholic, Ma...

Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the Church. In the Nicene and Apostles' Creeds, we profess that the Church is "catholic," but what do we mean by that? Former Protestant pastors Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard share how they used to think about the word "catholic" before they themselves ended up becoming Catholics. Watch more episodes: https://chnetwork.org/on-the...

Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the Church. In both Scripture and the writings of early Christianity, the Church is repeatedly referred to as "holy." How are we to understand that, if we know that it has been full of sinners from the beginning? Matt, Ken and Kenny look at the ways the word "holy" is used in the Bible, and how it has been used as a descriptor for...

Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the Church. In the Nicene Creed, Christians profess that they believe the Church to be "one." What does that mean? How did Ken and Kenny think about the idea of Christian unity when they were Evangelical pastors? And what are the obstacles to believers being "one" in Christ? Watch more episodes: https://chnetwork.org/category/blog...

Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the Church. “What the soul is to the human body, the Holy Spirit is to the Body of Christ, which is the Church.” - St. Augustine How would Ken and Kenny have reacted to a statement like that when they were serving as pastors of Protestant congregations? And how does the Holy Spirit serve not only as a teacher and guide, but also a...

Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the Church. This time around, they focus on Scriptural imagery of the Church as the body of Christ, as well as the bride of Christ. As former Protestant pastors, how did Ken and Kenny think of those images? And what does the Catechism of the Catholic Church have to say about the Church as Christ's body, as well as His bride? More...

Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the Church. When they were Evangelical pastors, how much did Ken and Kenny think about the Church as a continuation of the covenants God had made with his people throughout salvation history? Focusing on Catechism paragraphs 781-786, they share which Catholic teachings about the nature of the Church they would have affirmed wholeh...

Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the Church. The Catholic Catechism talks about the Church as being both earthly and heavenly, visible and invisible, hierarchical and mystical. In short, she is a "mystery" -- but what does the Church mean by that word? Matt, Ken and Kenny look at how they thought about the mystery of the Church when they were Evangelicals, and ho...

Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the Church. In this episode, they walk through the Catechism’s section on the Church’s Origin, Foundation and Mission. Here we see the Church born of the eternal plan of God, developed in the Old Covenant people of God, instituted by our Lord Jesus in the New Covenant, revealed by the Holy Spirit on the Day of Pentecost, and final...

Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the Church. In this episode, they begin to examine the Catechism’s treatment of Article 9 of the Apostle’s Creed, “I believe in the Holy Catholic Church,” focusing on the Church’s inner nature. What is communicated by saying that the Church is the called out assembly of the Lord, the sheepfold of Christ, the vine of His planting,...

Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard begin a new OTJ series on the Church. When Ken and Kenny were Evangelical pastors, what did they mean by the word "Church?" When Matt was attending different congregations, how did he understand them in relation to one another? Where did each of them get these understandings of what "the Church" is and how it works? Matt, Ken and Kenny kick off the series...

A special Summer message to our On the Journey family: Over the Summer, we're taking a short break from recording new episodes while we plan our next big series, which will be all about The Church. Since Ken and Kenny were both Protestant pastors before they became Catholic, we'll talk about how they planned church services, what they meant by the word "church," and what they thought about the fac...