On and Off the Table Podcast

In this episode, we sit down with trauma-informed licensed massage therapist Elsie Hargis (she/they), the therapist behind Body Resonance. Elsie has been practicing massage therapy since 2018, graduating from Colorado Institute of Massage Therapy in 2017, and specializes in trauma-informed deep tissue, sports massage, lymphatic drainage, and chronic pain management. Since 2022, they’ve focused on...

In this episode, we’re getting real (and a little playful) about the things we wish more clients knew. Like when you try to “help” by lifting your arm — we love the effort, but you can totally relax and let us do the work. We talk about why consistency is key, how one session can’t undo years of tension or trauma, and what collaboration in your healing really looks like. We also get into what we’r...

In this episode, we welcome the incredible Emily, an astrologer, psychic medium, and all-around cosmic guide, to take us on a journey through the stars. She breaks down our birth charts—Courtney’s and Annie’s—and helps us understand how our unique placements show up in business, self-care, and daily life. We dive deeper into the elements of astrology, exploring how fire, earth, air, and water infl...

Things that ooze, unwelcome surprises, and moments that leave us wondering what just happened. In this Halloween special, we’re spilling the most gruesome, unforgettable client horror stories — the gross, the grim, and the “please tell me that didn’t just happen.” But here’s the twist: can our producer Dane guess which stories are real… and which ones crawled out of Reddit? Show Notes - ⚠️ Trigger...

Buckle up for this fun, rambling game episode featuring our producer Dane and returning guest Rebecca Baggett! We’re diving into hot takes, Death Row meals, F***, Marry, Kill (Sandwich Edition), celebrity crushes, Would You Rather, and a cootie catcher + word association game that got way sillier than expected. We talk about food, past lives, and plenty more — and it’s the first time we’ve mic&#39...

What happens when spiritual care meets the massage table? In this episode, we sit down with Rev. Mallory Everhart — a politicized spiritual healer, herbalist, and conflict specialist — to explore the sacred and often unseen layers of bodywork. We talk about what “spiritual direction” really means (think: a god therapist who helps you stay connected to peace and purpose), how conservative Christian...

This week, we’re talking about the real stuff that shows up when real bodies meet the massage table: cellulite, back acne, hair thinning, shaved legs (or not), and why we want you to know we’re not secretly judging any of it. We share why it’s our responsibility as bodyworkers to hold a safe, inclusive space — because being in your body isn’t always easy, and receiving touch can feel vulnerable wh...

Only about 16% of massage therapists are men — and, as our guest Alex Bosma puts it, many are fighting an uphill battle because of the “bad apples” who’ve damaged the profession’s reputation. In this episode, Alex shares what it’s like navigating those challenges: from earning trust with clients who arrive on edge to opening transparent conversations that help set them at ease. Courtney also share...

Is getting a professional massage an act of self-care… or a betrayal? In this episode, we dive headfirst into the drama of when partners raise eyebrows (or flat-out say “nope”) at the idea of their significant other being touched by a massage therapist. We’re asking the real questions: – Is this actually about intimacy? – Why do so many men say, “my wife wouldn’t like that” at chair massage events...

Ever wondered why your body sometimes feels like it’s holding secrets? In this episode, we hang out with Dr. Tiffany Graham, chiropractor and somatic explorer, to talk about how “soma” literally means of the body — and why somatics might just be the roadmap back home to yourself. Tiffany shares why nothing in you is broken (just unfinished), how your body is a built-in compass for what deserves yo...

This week we’re busting massage lore wide open. From the myth that massage “detoxes” your body to the idea that it has to hurt to be effective, we’ve heard it all, and we’ve got stories. We swap some of our worst massage experiences, talk about common misconceptions around pregnancy and cupping "bruises," and laugh about the high pressure clients who think pain equals productivity. We also get rea...

We’re joined by our very first guest, Rebecca Baggett. This episode is made for massage therapists, bodyworkers, wellness pros, and service providers who want real talk about client dynamics. We kick things off with a deep dive into ideal clients: who they are, how to spot them, and how to attract the people you actually want to work with. Then it’s game time with Red, Green, or Beige Flags. We ru...

In Let’s Check In: Self-Care Without the Sugarcoat, Courtney and Annie dive into what self-care really means beyond the hashtags and hype. We’re exploring where the concept of self-care originated, how it has been reshaped into modern “wellness,” and what that shift gets right and wrong. We’ll share what we’re currently working on in our own self-care routines, how being massage therapists influen...

Welcome to our very first episode! Consider this your official invite to hang out with us! In true “This Might Get Weird (and it's only the intro)” fashion, we cover a little bit of everything: how we became LMTs (licensed massage therapists), snippets of life away from the massage table, and a few random side adventures along the way. We’re keeping it light, funny, and just a touch unhinged (beca...