Emmet Penney
Nuclear Barbarians
Emmet Penney talks to experts, workers, journalists, and scholars from all over the world about nuclear energy, energy issues, culture, and society. Subscribe to the Substack to get the newsletter and the podcast sent directly to your inbox: www.nuclearbarbarians.com. This podcast is supported by the Foundation for American Innovation.
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Jul 7, 2026
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Episodes
The Critical Moment ft. Matt Loszak (Aalo Atomics) 07.07.2026 44:36
Late in the night on July 4th, Aalo Atomics took their test reactor critical. In this episode, Aalo’s co-founder and CEO, Matt Loszak, returned to speak with me about the company’s experience in the DOE’s reactor pilot program. The conversation took a fascinating look at moving fast and building things—from sourcing materials to cultivating mindset. We recorded this a few weeks ago in anticipation...
Powering the Moonbase ft. Tyler Bernstein (Zeno Power) 19.06.2026 44:38
This is the first in a series of check-ins with previous guests about the unfolding nuclear renaissance. In this episode, Tyler Bernstein, CEO and co-founder of Zeno Power, returns to talk with me about Zeno’s progress ( check out our first episode here ). We chop it up about the importance of Trump’s EOs, NASA’s commitment to a permanent lunar base, and—wait! I’m burying the lede. Zeno has just a...
Can I Be Fusionpilled? ft. Andrew Holland (Fusion Industry Association) 20.05.2026 48:58
I'll admit, I'm a bit of a fusion skeptic. But! There are exciting things happening in the fusion industry these days. So, I brought Andrew Holland , CEO of the Fusion Industry Association , to talk to me about why things are looking up for fission's avant-garde cousin. Andrew's candor, insight, and enthusiasm made him a great guest. I had questions about everything from break-even hurdles to robo...
Waste Not, Want Not ft. Carl Perez (Exodys) 03.03.2026 58:29
In today’s episode, I got to talk about something near and dear to my heart (nuclear waste reprocessing) with Carl Perez of Exodys Energy, a nuclear waste reprocessing company. Carl is a wealth of knowledge, as you’ll hear in the episode. We discuss the basics of waste reprocessing, the history of the industry, what makes Exodys stand out, and why getting waste reprocessing right will change the w...
Energy Dominance Financing ft. Julie Kozeracki (EDF) 29.01.2026 33:53
Today I’m joined by Julie Kozeracki, the Chief Investment Officer of the Energy Dominance Financing Office, which serves as the Department of Energy’s bank. We talk about her admiration for Admiral Hyman Rickover, the nature of the EDF, financing large light water reactors and small modular reactors, why the EDF’s operations are vital to a nuclear renaissance in America, and more! I felt really lu...
Forward Operating Microreactors ft. Jeff Waksman (US Army) 15.01.2026 35:34
For this episode, my guest is Jeff Waksman, whose official title is Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of the Army for Installations, Energy and Environment. That’s a long title. In brief, he’s trying to get microreactors built for the US Army via the Janus Program. We discussed the nature of the program, unforeseen challenges in hard tech, why the Army is pursuing microreactors, and more! You c...
Perpetuating the Nuclear Lifecycle Ft. Ken Rueter (UCOR) 13.11.2025 48:38
One of the best parts of running this podcast is the chance to learn about aspects of the nuclear industry I know little about. Today’s guest, the President and CEO of United Clean Up Oak Ridge, taught me all about remediating nuclear sites. UCOR, the DOE’s contractor for the Oak Ridge Reservation, boasts an impressive suite of expertise and logistical acumen dedicated to turning over former Manha...
Texatomica ft. Reed Clay (Texas Nuclear Alliance) 31.10.2025 47:56
Reed Clay, President of the Texas Nuclear Alliance , joined me today to talk about how Texas is gearing up for the nuclear renaissance. We discussed how he came to support nuclear by learning about waste, what has set Texas’s nuclear strategy apart from other states, how TNA’s annual summit is shaping the national nuclear landscape, and Reed’s advice for other states that want to become nuclear hu...
Reactors by the Bargeful by Jake Jurewicz (Blue Energy) 10.10.2025 39:57
This episode is dedicated to all of the light water reactor fans out there. Especially if you like your LWRs in water. Listen to this conversation with the co-founder and CEO of Blue Energy, Jake Jurewicz, and you'll understand what I mean. Jake is a utility industry veteran with a lifetime of experience on construction sites, so our discussion about how his new company is going to site SMRs on wa...
Moving the World ft. Craig Fuller (Freightwaves) 26.09.2025 53:34
Craig Fuller comes from a legacy trucking family. He’s also the CEO and founder of Freightwaves , the Bloomberg of logistics. So, Craig’s the perfect guy to write an accessible primer on supply chains, which is exactly what he’s done. He came on the show to talk about the new book, Moving the World: How the Supply Chain’s Evolution Affects Us All ( which you can pre-order here !). We dig into what...
Seafloor, Icecap, Moon ft. Tyler Bernstein of Zeno Power 05.09.2025 41:58
Zeno Power , a cutting edge nuclear company, is making batteries powered with Strontium 90 for niche deployment cases: the moon, the arctic, and the seafloor. I got to pick Zeno cofounder and CEO Tyler Bernstein’s brain about their exciting new technology, why Zeno’s work is critical in our increasingly multipolar world, and the upsides of competing with China. This was a fascinating discussion an...
Tickling the Dragon ft. Matt Loszak of Aalo Atomics 30.08.2025 44:34
Matt Loszak , the cofounder and CEO of Aalo Atomics, joined me to talk about Aalo’s progress rolling SMRs off the factory line. We get into Aalo’s test reactor at Idaho National Labs, a DOE path toward approving nuclear designs, how Trump’s nuclear executive orders have helped the industry, “zero power criticality,” and more. Since we recorded this episode, Aalo has closed its $100 million Series...
TRISO Serious ft. Kurt Terrani of Standard Nuclear 15.08.2025 45:17
There are so many exciting developments in the nuclear space, I can hardly keep up. And not just in the realm of reactors. Kurt Terrani , the CEO of Standard Nuclear , joined me to talk about his new company and its ambitions for TRISO fuel. For me, this was a major download on nuclear fuel types. Kurt’s a very knowledgable dude working with a highly experienced team. Check out Standard Nuclear on...
Nuclear for Seven Generations ft. Scott Lathrop of Native Nuclear 01.08.2025 44:19
On today’s episode, I spoke with Scott Lathrop , the Founder and Chief Executive Director of Native Nuclear. Like me, Scott sees nuclear power as a multi-generational infrastructure investment that serves as a sheet anchor for healthy communities and healthy economies. But he brings a distinctly native perspective to nuclear that subverts stereotypes, just like the educational work his organizatio...
Sounding the Depths ft. Ari Brown of Bellwether LLC 15.07.2025 46:25
Former navy nuke Ari Brown joined me to talk about his experience in the service. For me, his story offers profound insight into what it takes to institutionalize excellence. Then we talk about his new company, Bellwether LLC , and how Ari is using his programming background and acoustic analysis skills to figure out how to fix machines in an innovative way. Get full access to Nuclear Barbarians a...
No Sleep Til Fleetscale ft. Joe Klecha of The Nuclear Company 01.07.2025 47:15
For this episode, Joe Klecha, the Chief Nuclear Officer at The Nuclear Company , joined me to talk about his background as a navy nuke, his time working on the Vogtle build, and what it takes to pull off megaprojects. Then we discuss how TNC’s recent deal with Palantir is going to unleash fleets of new nuclear power plants. I learned so much from this episode—Joe is a patriot, a leader, and a weal...
Lone Star Nuclear ft. Andrew Kirima 05.06.2025 48:17
On this episode, Andrew Kirima of the Texas Nuclear Alliance stops by to talk about his origins as a nuclear advocate, what’s been going on with nuclear in Texas, and how the TNA fits into the American nuclear scene. Register for the TNA Summit this October! Check out Andrew on X and LinkedIn. And also check out the other nuclear project Andrew is involved with: Exodys Energy. Nuclear Barbarians i...
(bonus episode) FREE PLANET ft. Aubrey Sitterson 09.05.2025 58:30
In a special bonus episode, I speak with comic book writer Aubrey Sitterson about his new hard scifi geopolitical space opera, Free Planet. This comic has it all: energy literacy, questions of science and technology, the trials and tribulations of democracy, and some incredible layouts. I hope you guys enjoy this break from our usual programming. I encourage you to head down to your local comic sh...
Nuclear = Energy Security ft. Benton Arnett of NEI 06.05.2025 43:09
Benton Arnett, Director of Markets and Policy at the Nuclear Energy Institute , joined me to talk about nuclear’s prospects today and what makes it such a boon for energy security. Benton’s a great guy with a deep knowledge base. I had a lot of fun chatting with him and learned things about the nuclear supply chain construction that surprised me! Nuclear Barbarians is a reader-supported publicatio...
Galileo's Dialogue Concerning Two Chief World Systems Pt. I 15.02.2025 1:42:18
John and I are back with the first installment of our series on one of Galileo’s masterworks in the history of philosophy and science: Dialogue Concerning Two Chief World Systems . We dive into the historical context in which the work was published and then discuss the book’s dedication to the Grand Duke of Tuscany. Get full access to Nuclear Barbarians at www.nuclearbarbarians.com/subscribe
Energy Cinema: Chinatown ft. Andrew Plimpton 20.01.2025 1:04:36
Film critic and writer Andrew Plimpton returns to the pod to talk about one of the greatest American films of all time—Chinatown—which also happens to be a canonical film about the politics of energy. We dive into the film’s themes, noir as a genre, Jack Nicholson as a writer, and much more. Nuclear Barbarians is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider be...
Light of the Mind, Light of the World Ft. Spencer Klavan 08.12.2024 47:40
Spencer Klavan joined me to talk about his new book, Light of the Mind, Light of the World: Illuminating Science Through Faith . We talk about "Newtonian" Default Mode, the history of science, what innovations in physics mean for the faithful and secular alike, and much more! Check out Spencer's Substack, Rejoice Evermore. Check out The American Mind’s Roundtable . Get full access to Nuclear Barba...
An Education in Energy Realism ft. Dr. Scott Tinker 23.11.2024 57:09
One of my favorite things about running this podcast is getting to talk to people with way more experience than me. Dr. Scott Tinker, a geologist and energy expert with decades of experience, joined me to talk about the breadth of his career, how our understanding of energy has changed over time, energy realism, teaching people the energy basics, and more! Check out the Switch Energy Alliance! And...
Esoteric Origins of the Enlightenment Pt. IV 09.11.2024 1:41:09
John and I finish up our series on the esoteric origins of the Enlightenment by diving into romanticism, mesmerism, the forgotten aspects of Jung, American New Age stuff, and way more! Next up: Galileo’s Dialogue Concerning Two Chief World Systems. Get full access to Nuclear Barbarians at www.nuclearbarbarians.com/subscribe
Esoteric Origins of the Enlightenment Pt. III 26.10.2024 1:23:27
In our penultimate Hanegraaff episode, John and I take a look at how “magic,” “superstition,” and the “occult” became epithets divorced from critical reasoning, the uncomfortable overlap between occult and scientific practices, and I deliver a brief monologue on how all of this shows up in the work of HP Lovecraft. Get full access to Nuclear Barbarians at www.nuclearbarbarians.com/subscribe
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