The Judge Advocate General's Legal Center and School

NSL Unscripted

This podcast is part of The Quill & Sword series of podcasts created and hosted by The Judge Advocate General’s Legal Center and School (TJAGLCS). NSL Unscripted is a national security law (NSL) practitioner’s podcast bringing conversations with NSL practitioners and leaders—in the military, government, and civilian practice, as well as discussions on emerging and hot topics. NSL Unscripted is not just your typical hot topic update podcast, though. We also bring you leadership and mentorship tips and lessons for those leading in national security law today. The National Security Law Department...

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The Judge Advocate General's Legal Center and School

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Latest episode

Mar 10, 2026

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Episodes

NSL Unscripted | Episode 24 – The Army’s Principal Cyber Advisor & Insights into the Cyber & Tech Initiatives at the Pentagon 10.03.2026

In this episode, Maj Fabiani Duarte, Associate Professor in the National Security Law Department, sits down with Mr. Brandon Pugh, the Principal Cyber Advisor to the Secretary of the Army in TJAGLCS’ inaugural vodcast. As the PCA, Mr. Pugh was presidentially appointed & is responsible for advising the Secretary of the Army and the Army Chief of Staff on all cyber matters, including issues of readi...

NSL Unscripted | Episode 23 – The International Law of Intelligence with Professor Asaf Lubin 07.05.2025

In this episode, MAJ Emily Bobenrieth, Associate Professor in the National Security Law Department, talks with Professor Asaf Lubin, Associate Professor at Indianan University Maurer School of Law and visiting Associate Professor at Columbia Law School. Professor Lubin shares his over ten years of research into the law and ethics that govern espionage. Professor Lubin discusses how current interna...

NSL Unscripted | Episode 22 - Louboutin Lawfare: Reconceptualizing Sanctions Utility with Professor Vinita Singh 20.11.2024

In this episode, MAJ Brian Jones, Associate Professor in the National Security Law Department, talks with Professor Vinita Singh, Assistant Professor at the University of Iowa College of Law. Professor Singh shares her research on economic sanctions imposed by the United States and European Union connected with the Russia–Ukraine war. Professor Singh focuses on export controls on luxury goods, usi...

NSL Unscripted | Episode 21 - Big Tech in Armed Conflict Part 2 30.10.2024

This episode is part two of a two-part series which captures the live recording of a panel held at the 1st Emerging Technologies in the Law Course. In this episode, LTC(R) Laura West, Former Chair of the National Security Law De-partment, wraps up her conversation with the panelists and ends by fielding questions from the audience. Tune is as the esteemed panelists, Professor Gary Corn, Director o...

NSL Unscripted | Episode 20 - Big Tech in Armed Conflict Part 1 25.09.2024

This episode is part one of a two-part series which captures the live recording of a panel held at the 1st Emerging Technologies in the Law Course. Moder-ated by, LTC(R) Laura West, Former Chair of the National Security Law De-partment, the panel discusses the private sector’s emerging role in current and future conflict, as well as how government practitioners should consider working alongside bi...

NSL Unscripted | Episode 19 - A Philosopher’s Take on Trust and AI with LTC Kevin Schieman 28.08.2024

In this episode, MAJ Emily Bobenrieth, Associate Professor in the National Security Law Department at The Judge Advocate General’s Legal Center and School, sits down with LTC Kevin Schieman, Academy Professor at in the Department of Law and Philosophy at the United States Military Academy. As both a professor and a philosopher, LTC Schieman shares his research and insights on the relationship betw...

NSL Unscripted | Episode 18 - A Discussion on “Secret Law” with Professor Dakota Rudesill of Ohio State Moritz College of Law 24.07.2024

In this episode, LTC Dan Maurer sits down with Dakota Rudesill, Associate Professor of Law at Ohio State’s Moritz College of Law. During this episode, Professor Rudesill discusses his in-depth study of “secret law,” from classified executive branch policy and pseudo-binding opinions by the Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel in times of armed conflict to the proliferation of classified...

NSL Unscripted | Episode 17 – Government Accountability for the Use of AI with UVA Professor Ashley Deeks 26.06.2024

This episode features Maj Fabiani Duarte, Associate Professor in the National Security Law Department at The Judge Advocate General’s Legal Center and School, interviewing Ashley Deeks, UVA Law School Professor and recent White House associate counsel and deputy legal adviser to the National Security Council. In this episode, Professor Deeks discusses Artificial Intelligence (AI) in the military a...

NSL Unscripted | Episode 16 - A Conversation between Dr. Jill Goldenziel and LtCol Grant McDowell on Lawfare 08.05.2024

This episode features LtCol Grant McDowell, Acting-Chair, National Security Law Department at The Judge Advocate General’s Legal Center and School, interviewing Dr. Jill Goldenziel, Professor, National Defense University-College of Information and Cyberspace. In this episode, Dr. Goldenziel discusses the often-debated topic of Lawfare with LtCol McDowell. They touch upon many areas during their co...

NSL Unscripted | Episode 15 – Lt Gen (Ret.) John “Jack” Shanahan discusses artificial intelligence (AI) 17.04.2024

In this episode, CPT Brandon Pugh sits down with Lt Gen (Ret.) John “Jack” Shanahan an expert in the artificial intelligence (AI) field to discuss AI. In his final assignment he served as the inaugural Director of the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) Joint Artificial Center (JAIC). During this episode, Lt Gen (Ret.) Shanahan discusses how he became the DoD’s lead on AI, standing up Project Maven a...

NSL Unscripted | Episode 14 – Surveillance Law and the Quantum Internet with LTC Mike Lebowitz 20.12.2023

In this episode, Major Keoni Medici, former Associate Professor in the National Security Law Department (ADN) at The Judge Advocate General's Legal Center and School (TJAGLCS) interviews Lieutenant Colonel Michael Lebowitz, ADN Adjunct Professor and expert in the law that governs cyberspace. LTC Lebowitz discusses his research surrounding gaps in existing electronic surveillance laws and how the f...

NSL Unscripted | Episode 13 – The Climate Crises and U.S. National Security with Mark Nevitt 15.11.2023

This episode features Major Emily Bobenrieth, Associate Professor, National Security Law Department at The Judge Advocate General’s Legal Center and School, interviewing Professor Mark Nevitt of Emory Law School, to discuss the impact of climate change on U.S. national security. As one of the leading experts at the intersection of the climate crisis’ impact on U.S. national security and stability,...

NSL Unscripted | Episode 12 – Deep Fakes with Major John Tramazzo 01.11.2023

In this episode, Major John Tramazzo, Fellow and Professor of Law at the Stockton Center for International Law, is interviewed about his scholarship and research into Deep Fake technology. John shares his research, best reads for military practitioners, and some legal considerations for the military applications of this emerging technology. MAJ Tramazzo discusses points from this interview linked...

NSL Unscripted | Episode 11 – Space Law with Col.(Ret.) Todd Pennington 04.10.2023

This episode features Major Adam Reitz, USAF, Associate Professor, Na-tional Security Law Department at The Judge Advocate General’s Legal Cen-ter and School, interviewing Colonel (Ret.) Todd Pennington, then-Staff Judge Advocate, U.S. Space Command on space law including the strategic competition with the People’s Republic of China. In this episode, Col.(Ret.) Pennington discusses the newly relea...

NSL Unscripted | Episode 10 – Contemporary War Crimes Prosecutions with David Crane 05.09.2023

In this episode, Lieutenant Colonel Dan Maurer, Professor in the National Security Law Department (ADN) at The Judge Advocate General's Legal Center and School (TJAGLCS), interviews David Crane about his work towards global accountability for international crimes and specifically discusses international efforts to hold the Russian Federation accountable for atrocities in Ukraine.

NSL Unscripted | Episode 9 - The Data Privacy Threat with Mr. Brandon Pugh and MAJ Jessica Dawson 07.08.2023

In this episode, Major Emily Bobenrieth, Associate Professor, National Security Law Department at The Judge Advocate General’s Legal Center and School, sits down with Major Jessica Dawson and Mr. Brandon Pugh to discuss the threat data privacy, or lack thereof, poses to national security, servicemembers, and Americans at large. Both experts in the data privacy field, MAJ Dawson and Mr. Pugh engage...

NSL Unscripted | Episode 8 - The Role of the ICRC in Present and Future Operations with Ms. Lakmini Seneviratne 19.07.2023

In this episode, Major Emily Bobenrieth sits down with Ms. Lakmini Seneviratne, Legal Advisor and Head of the Legal department for the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) Regional Delegation for the United States and Cana-da located in Washington, D.C. Having joined the ICRC in 2008, Ms. Seneviratne discusses her path to becoming an operational legal advisor, the mission of the ICRC, a...

NSL Unscripted | Episode 7 – LtCol Peter Combe and Maj McDowell Discuss Littoral NSL Considerations 15.05.2023

In this episode, Major Grant McDowell, Vice Chair and Professor in the National Security Law Department (ADN) at The Judge Advocate General's Legal Center and School (TJAGLCS), interviews Lieutenant Colonel Peter C. Combe II, USMC about National Security Law (NSL) issues regarding combat in the littorals. LtCol Combe’s unique experiences on staff, in PME and Planner schools, and through his extens...

NSL Unscripted | Episode 6 - LTC Dan Maurer Discusses States Encouraging Direct Participation in Hostilities 18.04.2023

In this episode, Lieutenant Colonel Laura West, Solf-Warren Chair and Professor in the National Security Law Department (ADN) at The Judge Advocate General's Legal Center and School (TJAGLCS), interviews department colleague, Lieutenant Colonel Dan Maurer, about an emerging issue in National Security Law (NSL). LTC Maurer discusses the recently fielded “ePPO” app, a cell phone-accessible program t...

NSL Unscripted | Episode 5 - An Interview with Prof. Adam Oler about Baltic Gavel 06.03.2023

In this episode, Maj Grant McDowell (U.S. Marine Corps), Vice-Chair and Professor in the National Security Law Department (ADN) at The Judge Advocate General's Legal Center and School (TJAGLCS), interviews Professor Adam Oler, Associate Professor of Strategy and Chair, Department of Security Studies at the National War College, National Defense University about the Baltic Gavel national security l...

NSL Unscripted | Episode 4: Emerging Technology – What Are We Talking About and Why Do We Care? 22.02.2023

In this episode, LTC Laura West, Solf-Warren Chair and Professor in the National Security Law Department (ADN) at The Judge Advocate General's Legal Center and School (TJAGLCS), sits down with Todd Huntley, Director of the National Security Law Program at Georgetown Law and CAPT Keith Gibel, Professor in the National Security Law Department, to discuss and introduce listeners to emerging technolog...

NSL Unscripted | Episode 3: NSL Military Practitioner Career Advice Series: COL Eric Widmar, U.S. Central Command, Staff Judge Advocate 01.02.2023

This episode features MAJ M. Keoni Medici, Associate Professor, National Security Law Department at The Judge Advocate General’s Legal Center and School interviewing COL Eric Widmar, Staff Judge Advocate, U.S. Central Command on his career as an NSL practitioner in the military and providing career advice for military practitioners. COL Widmar shares his experiences of being the senior legal advis...

NSL Unscripted | Episode 2: NSL Military Practitioner Career Advice Series: COL Peter Hayden, U.S. Cyber Command, Staff Judge Advocate 01.02.2023

This episode features MAJ M. Keoni Medici, Associate Professor, National Security Law Department at The Judge Advocate General’s Legal Center and School, interviewing COL Peter Hayden, Staff Judge Advocate, U.S. Cyber Command on his career as an NSL practitioner in the military and providing career advice for military practitioners. COL Hayden provides a picture of one Judge Advocates’ career star...

NSL Unscripted | Episode 1: The Evolution of National Security Law from a Military Practitioner’s Viewpoint 24.01.2023

In this inaugural episode, LTC Laura West, Chair of the National Security Law Department at The Judge Advocate General’s Legal Center and School, interviews two esteemed military national security law practitioners: COL Pete Hayden, Staff Judge Advocate, U.S. Cyber Command, and COL Eric Widmar, Staff Judge Advocate, U.S. Central Command. COL Hayden and COL Widmar share their perspectives on past N...

NSL Unscripted | Episode 0: What is NSL Unscripted? 24.01.2023

Welcome to NSL (National Security Law) Unscripted! In this episode, LTC Laura West (U.S. Army), Maj Grant McDowell (U.S. Marine Corps), and MAJ M. Keoni Medici (U.S. Army), professors at the National Security Law Department (ADN) at The Judge Advocate General's Legal Center and School (TJAGLCS), introduce the latest podcast being produced by TJAGLCS: NSL Unscripted. What is NSL Unscripted? NSL Uns...

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