Pancho Gomez & Kim Paull

Now That You See It

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Kim Paull and Pancho Gomez are two curious, opinionated friends who love nothing more than to change their own minds. Now That You See It is a podcast about the moments when a belief shifts — and what's possible once it does. Each episode, they dig into the ideas, biases, and assumptions that quietly run our lives — the ones so familiar we've stopped questioning them. Sometimes a guest joins. Sometimes it's just the two of them, thinking out loud together toward something neither of them expected. They cover the hidden operating system behind everyday stuff: why we judge others faster than our...

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Pancho Gomez & Kim Paull

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Latest episode

Jul 9, 2026

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Episodes

Should You Play To Win - Or Play Not To Lose? with Christina Reynolds 09.07.2026

Christina Reynolds is a coach, a former scientist. At one point, she left a long-term relationship, quit her corporate job, and hiked across the country, all in the span of just a few months. The thing she can't unsee is that there's no such thing as the right decision. Not really. A choice only becomes right or wrong after you've made it and watched how it plays out, and even then, the meaning ke...

5 Reasons People Stay Stuck 30.06.2026

This is our second Shortisode, a short-podcast format discussion. As Kim calls it, it's Punch O'Clock! This one is about why people don't change even when they genuinely want to. Kim brings five reasons plus a bonus, and Pancho adds three more. They cover the obvious stuff and the sneaky stuff: Not having felt the full pain of the status quo Not being able to picture the benefit of a change you ha...

5 Worst Things to Say When Someone Is Struggling 26.06.2026

Welcome to our first Shortisode, the first of a new short-form format. It's Punchy O'Clock! This one is about the five worst things you can say when someone shares a challenge with you. Not because the people who say them are bad, but because almost all of us reach for these phrases with good intentions and end up making the other person feel worse. Kim ranks her five: "It could be worse" "Here's...

When You Change, People Get Weird with Noelle Cordeaux, Lumia CEO 04.06.2026

Noelle is back. She founded Lumia Coaching, trained both Pancho and Kim, and is the reason the two of them know each other. This is their second conversation with her, and it picks up a thread from the first: when you change, people get weird. The three of them pull that thread from every direction. - What happens inside the relationships when one person starts growing and the others haven't yet....

Intimacy Requires Anxiety with Dr. Bruce Chalmer 29.05.2026

Dr. Bruce Chalmer has been a couples therapist for over 30 years. Before that, he was a statistician. And at some point in the time between the two, he went through the kind of despair that changes how someone approaches adversity forever. That experience, and what he found on the other side of it, is what led him to clinical work. It's what he still brings into every session: a specific non-relig...

Embrace the Awkward: A Coach's Playbook for Speaking Up with Salvatore Manzi 21.05.2026

Salvatore Manzi lost his voice on stage the first time he tried to speak publicly. His dad was a public speaker, and his mom facilitated large group events. It was obvious that he would also become a speaker and facilitator. The first time he stood in front of a room, he lost his voice and had to walk off stage, humiliated. That was the beginning of a 20-year project to help himself and others use...

You Can't Stop Comparing. So Do It Better 14.05.2026

"Comparison is the thief of joy" is one of those phrases that gets repeated so often that we take it to be rock-solid wisdom. Pancho calls BS. Comparison is not the thief of joy. As a matter of fact, it's not a problem at all. It's one of the most fundamental tools the human mind uses to understand anything, including itself. Without it, there's no sense of self, no theory of mind, no way to disti...

If You Can't Take Time Off Is Something Wrong With You? 07.05.2026

Kim took a real vacation. For what she believes is the first time in her adult life. The ones before were those "vacations" where the laptop comes out on the beach. They were weeks of checking email only five times a day while everyone else looked on in confusion. This time, it was a full, committed, nothing-on-the-calendar week where she said no to a job offer, canceled future plans to go to a co...

Should I Give Up On My Dream? Live Coaching Session 30.04.2026

Pancho came into this episode without a ready-made insight. He came in with a problem, angst, and some half-baked thoughts. He's building a coaching practice in an economy that isn't generous to people just starting out. The feedback from clients, platforms, and recruiters is overwhelmingly positive, but his business bank account tells a different story. Somewhere in that gap, there's a frustratio...

How To Navigate Change You Didn't Choose 26.04.2026

Kim read a book she couldn't stop taking notes on. Pancho pushed back on one of its central ideas. What followed was a conversation in which we're not quite sure if we agree. The book is Masters of Change by Brad Stulberg, and the thing Kim can't unsee is this: when you're in change you didn't choose, there are ways through it that don't require becoming a different person or pretending you're fin...

Pancho on 6 Habits of the Best Bosses 17.04.2026

Just because your coworkers trust you'll do your job doesn't mean they trust you. This episode goes deep into the practical side of Pancho's relational leadership coaching: six tools he brings into corporate teams, startups, and individual coaching engagements that consistently change how people work together. Most of them require nothing more than a shared document or a different approach to the...

The Older I Get, The Less I Know with Matthew Kimberley 09.04.2026

Matthew Kimberley wrote a self-help book at 27 called How to Get a Grip . He was certain he had things figured out. And he's spent the last 20 years finding out how little he knew. In this episode, Matthew joins Kim and Pancho to talk about what he can't unsee: his own fallibility. It's been a gradual process: kids born with health challenges, a marriage dragged through the rocks, career swings th...

Adulting 103: Is it Anxiety or Your Personality? 02.04.2026

What if some of what you've always called your personality is actually anxiety in disguise? That's the thread Kim and Pancho pull on in this episode. It's genuinely hard to untangle the overlap between who you are and what your nervous system has just gotten used to doing. They look at how traits like conscientiousness, planning, and people-pleasing can be anxiety in a disguise that seems reasonab...

Coming Out Was Never Just About Being Gay 25.03.2026

What happens when the version of you that has been working for so long no longer fits? This episode explores the slow process Kim took to understand herself and the resulting coming out to her friends and family. We explore how coming out is more than a process for people to publicly step into a more self-affirming sexual orientation. Coming out is a process for anyone who has to share something a...

What Am I Suffering From? with Chris Burkard, Storyteller and Photographer 12.03.2026

Chris has spent much of his life looking ahead. Ahead to the next race. The next film. The next goal. In this conversation, he reflects on what’s led him to slow his forward momentum. We talk about entering a three-day darkness retreat and being told, “You’re just an animal in a cage.” About what surfaces when fight-or-flight kicks in without your usual coping mechanisms. About asking yourself, Wh...

The Moms Who Are Rewriting The Rules with Julie Bacon of the Mothership Collective 26.02.2026

Motherhood does not arrive quietly. It changes your body, your brain, your calendar, and your identity. And then the world starts treating you differently before you’ve even figured out who you are becoming. In this conversation with Julie Bacon, founder of the Mothership Collective, we discuss the identity shift of motherhood, both from within and from without. Julie shares what it was like to mo...

Why 'I Deserve' Gives You the Ick 19.02.2026

"I deserve this." If you immediately get the ick, you're not alone. But why? Shouldn't it sound empowering? In this conversation, we unpack one of the most loaded phrases in modern self-help culture. We explore the difference between deserving dignity and demanding outcomes, between healthy self-care and subtle entitlement. Depending on how "I deserve" is used, it can signal a healthy relationship...

"Why Was I Ever Scared to Talk to This Guy?" with Pancho's Wife, Steph 12.02.2026

The way we see ourselves can differ widly from the way others see us. We might see ourselves as competent, self-aware, and reasonable. And maybe we are. But our friends, family, significant others, and strangers all have a different idea of who we are, and that's fascinating. In this guestisode, Pancho’s wife Steph joins the podcast, with Kim facilitating, to explore the gap between self-perceptio...

How to Stop the Boom-Bust Change Cycle with Paradie Stewart 09.02.2026

Change rarely announces itself with fireworks. More often, it is a boring process. It's quiet. Almost like nothing is happening. In this conversation with Paradie Stewart, we talk about why real change tends to move at a pace that frustrates us, and why that frustration is often a sign you’re doing it right. We explore the tension between urgency and sustainability, how intensity can masquerade as...

Making Peace With An Unfair World with Kisch Lenus 29.01.2026

We grow up with the narrative that if we follow the rules, we'll be rewarded. Go to school, work hard, check all the boxes, and things will turn out like they should. Then we're faced with the reality that sometimes the rules don’t work, the rewards never come, and the world isn't fair. In this episode, Pancho and Kim talk with Kish Lenus about bumping up against the “hidden rules” of schooling, w...

Adulting 102: In Defense of Being a Little Childish 22.01.2026

What if some of the behaviors we’re most eager to outgrow are actually the ones we need back? In this episode, Pancho and Kim explore what we label as “childish” and why curiosity, play, emotional honesty, and joy tend to get disciplined out of us over time. They unpack how social pressure teaches us to be polite instead of honest, agreeable instead of curious, and composed instead of alive. Drawi...

Resolutions Reconsidered - What the Yogis Got Right 20.01.2026

Every January, we feel the cultural pressure to improve (or at least act like we will). We make promises. We set goals. We tell ourselves this year will be different. Our desires and aspirations are co-opted by the rush of everyone setting resolutions and by everyone who will take your money with the promise of helping you make them real this time. In this episode, Kim and Pancho slow the whole th...

When They're a Jerk but You're Obviously Not - Brain Bugs & Being Human 08.01.2026

We’re quick to explain our own behavior with context and just as quick to explain other people’s behavior with character. In this episode, Pancho and Kim dig into a cognitive bias most of us are running without realizing it: the fundamental attribution error. It’s the mental shortcut that has us labeling other people as lazy, rude, careless, or difficult while giving ourselves a much more generous...

Adulting 101: How To Make Friends As A Grownup 01.01.2026

Adult friendships are harder than we expect, and no one really teaches us how to do them. In this episode, Pancho and Kim talk candidly about what it takes to build, maintain, and sometimes grieve friendships in adulthood. They explore why friendships fade, why friendship breakups are uniquely difficult, and how life transitions reshape who we can actually show up for. This isn’t about fixing your...

Generations Ago, Your Personality Formed: Judy Hu on Epigenetics and Inherited Pain 26.12.2025

What if the things you call your personality are actually unfinished survival strategies? In this episode, we sit down with Judy Hu, a licensed mental health counselor and boundary coach, to discuss trauma in context. Not just personal trauma, but cultural and inherited trauma that shapes how we relate, react, and protect ourselves. Judy unpacks why trauma often masquerades as personality, why bou...

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