Jen Savage and Bridger Falkenstien
Notice That
An EMDR Podcast
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Episodes
Human First: A Conversation with The EMDR Coach, Dana Carretta Stein 22.05.2025 1:05:58
What If the Therapist Was the Most Powerful Intervention in EMDR? Reclaiming the Human Thread in Trauma Therapy In the world of EMDR therapy, conversations about techniques, protocols, and procedures often dominate the training space. But what if something even more powerful has been quietly present all along? What if the most transformative tool in EMDR isn’t the protocol—it’s the presence of the...
EMDR, Cultural Humility, and Doing Your Own Work: Conversation with Mark Nickerson 08.05.2025 1:02:08
“To be a culturally competent therapist is to be a human first—curious, aware, humble, and willing to grow.” In this powerful episode of Notice That: An EMDR Podcast , Jen Savage sits down with EMDR therapist, author, and cultural competence advocate Mark Nickerson, LICSW for a rich and timely conversation about what it really means to bring cultural responsiveness into our clinical work. This epi...
Is EMDR Too Insular?: A Conversation with Derek Farrell 10.04.2025 1:19:24
What happens when a visionary academic, a few decades of lived EMDR experience, and a global perspective meet a pair of U.S.-based EMDR trainers hungry for evolution? You get a conversation that challenges everything we take for granted about training, research, and the future of trauma therapy. In a recent episode of Notice That: An EMDR Podcast , we had the immense honor of sitting down with Dr....
What if EMDR Was a Truly Somatic Therapy? 27.03.2025 52:06
What If EMDR Was a Fully Somatic Therapy? In the world of EMDR therapy, conversations about somatics are becoming more and more common. But what if somatics wasn’t just a helpful layer to add onto EMDR? What if it was the foundation ? What if we could reimagine EMDR as a truly somatic therapy—one that centers the body as the primary source of healing, rather than just another variable to account f...
Beyond Protocol: EMDR, Case Conceptualization, and the Power of Shared Language 06.03.2025 48:17
In the world of EMDR therapy, it's easy to get caught up in technique —perfecting protocols, refining scripts, and ensuring procedural accuracy. But what happens when we step beyond protocol and start seeing the therapeutic process as an intersubjective experience —one that includes not just our clients but ourselves as well? In a recent episode of Notice That: An EMDR Podcast , we had the opportu...
Somatic Experiencing and EMDR: Interview with Amanda Johnson and Rachel Cagle 14.02.2025 1:04:26
Bridging EMDR and Somatic Experiencing: A Conversation with Amanda Johnson & Rachel Cagle Curious about how EMDR and Somatic Experiencing can work together? In this episode of Notice That, we explore the integration of these two modalities, the challenges and rewards of blending them, and how they can enhance trauma therapy. Tune in to hear Amanda Johnson and Rachel Cagle share their insights...
EMDR with Kids: Interview with Christine Mark-Griffin 06.02.2025 1:02:39
Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger sit down with Kristine Mark-Griffin for a discussion on working with children using EMDR. Christine is the founder of EMDR for Kids. She is an EMDRIA approved Consultant & advanced trainer. She is the author of the award winning EMDR Workbook for Kids and is the lead trainer at EMDR for Kids. Christine’s professional experience has included working...
Beyond Is Evolving!: Shifts and Refocusing 06.02.2025 42:57
Listen in to hear Jen, Melissa, and Bridger talk about their relationship over the past five years in starting Beyond Healing and embracing authenticity and humanness through it all. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .
Happy New Year! 16.01.2025 49:19
Happy New Year! Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger talk about some super exciting things coming in 2025 including a new podcast setup, conference presentations, a new EMDR Basic Training, and so much more! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .
Ketamine Assisted EMDR Therapy: Interview with Danielle Ciccone & Michele Topel 09.01.2025 55:05
In this exciting episode, we sit down with Danielle Ciccone and Michele Topel , the creators of Ketamine Assisted EMDR Therapy . Combining the transformative power of EMDR with the therapeutic benefits of ketamine, this innovative modality is expanding the possibilities for trauma healing and mental wellness. Danielle and Michele, co-founders of the Ketamine-Assisted EMDR Therapy Institute , share...
EMDR, Ego-States, and Neurobiology - Interview with Sandra Paulsen 22.11.2024 45:49
Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger's conversation with Sandra Paulsen. Yes, THE Sandra Paulsen. The author of some of your favorite books for trauma related dissociation treatment and several popular EMDR texts. Some of her work includes When There Are no Words, Looking Through the Eyes of Trauma and Dissociation, Neurobiology and Treatment of Traumatic Dissociation, and her most recent works, We’r...
Ending Therapy: How do You Know? 07.11.2024 1:00:51
Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger's discussion on ending therapy. This conversation is a part of Notice That's Back to Basics series where the hosts work through Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy: Basic Principles, Protocols, and Procedures , now in its third edition. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at http...
Reevaluation and the Three Pronged Protocol 24.10.2024 1:00:57
Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger discuss Reevaluation in the standard 8-phase protocol of EMDR, as well as the three pronged protocol embedded in the adaptive information processing (AIP) model. This conversation is a part of the Back to Basics series where the hosts of Notice That are reading through Francine Shapiro's eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy: Basic Principle...
The EMDR Continuum: Interview with Roy Kiessling 10.10.2024 1:05:09
Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger's conversation with Roy Kiessling about the EMDR processing continuum. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .
EMDR Now, Then, and Tomorrow: Interview with Roy Kiessling 26.09.2024 1:26:53
Listen in to hear Jen and Melissa's conversation with Roy Kiessling. Roy is an EMDRIA-certified trainer and the founder of EMDR Consulting. Trained in EMDR in 1995, Roy grew professionally as one of Francine Shapiro’s training facilitators (1997-2001), then as a senior trainer for her humanitarian organization (2001-2013), and finally as a senior trainer for Francine’s EMDR Institute (2006-2013)....
Unlocking EMDR’s Potential: A Deep Dive with EMDRIA’s Michael Bowers on Building Community, Advocacy, and Excellence 12.09.2024 55:37
Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger's conversation with Michael Bowers, the Executive Director of EMDRIA. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .
Fly On the Wall: Jen and Bridger's Summer 05.09.2024 57:38
Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger reflect on their experience of being therapists when life happens! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .
EMDR for ADHD: Interview with Noelle Lynn 15.08.2024 1:02:23
Listen in to hear an interview with Noelle Lynn, therapist, advocate, and researcher specializing in the treatment of ADHD. To learn more about Noelle and the work she's doing, you can find her at EMDRforADHD.com and ADHDcenterofwestmichigan.com. Noelle is also working on a book entitled The EMDR for ADHD Treatment Manual so keep your eyes peeled for its anticipated release. Additionally, check ou...
Recovering from Spiritual Trauma - Interview with Jamie Marich 06.07.2024 1:00:33
Listen in to hear Melissa's conversation with Dr. Jamie Marich on their upcoming book, You Lied to Me About God: A Memoir. If you're interested in finding out more about Jamie's work, you can connect with them at their website, jamiemarich.com. You Lied to Me About God can be purchased online or through Jamie's website. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice...
EMDR for Couples and Families 21.05.2024 1:06:43
Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger reflect on the work they've been doing to support couples and families in their EMDR journey. Throughout this episode, the hosts incorporate the Cycle of Repression into the conversation. This model of attachment rupture and repair empowers clients to discover safety in connection by understanding how we fall back on learned strategies to avoid threats and seek sa...
Installation, Body Scan, and Closure: Phases 5-7 of EMDR Therapy 01.05.2024 1:17:55
Listen in to hear Melissa and Bridger discuss installation, body scan, and closure within the context of phases 5-7 of EMDR's standard 8-phase protocol. This conversation is a part of the Back to Basics series where the hosts of Notice That work through Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy: Basic Principles, Protocols, and Procedures . See Privacy Policy...
Phase Four: The Purpose and Function of Desensitization and Reprocessing in EMDR Therapy 01.05.2024 59:41
Listen in to hear Jen and Bridger discuss the purpose and function of desensitization and reprocessing in EMDR Therapy. This conversation is a part of the Back to Basics season where the hosts of Notice That are working through Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy: Basic Principles, Protocols, and Procedures . See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/priva...
Introduction to Phase Four: Desensitization, Reprocessing, Body Scan and Installation 29.02.2024 48:26
Listen in to hear Jen, Melissa, and Bridger dive in to a conversation about Phase Four of the standard 8-phase EMDR protocol. This conversation is a part of the Back to Basics series where the Notice That crew is walking through Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy (3rd ed.). If you haven't been following along, take a scroll back through the podcast libr...
Assessment, Cognitions, Sensations, and Meaning in EMDR Therapy 14.02.2024 1:18:56
Listen in as Jen and Bridger pick back up in the Back to Basics season with chapter five of Francine Shapiro's Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) Therapy (3rd ed.). Did you know? After full completion of Beyond Healing Institute’s Somatic Integration and Processing training, each participant can receive 21 NBCC hours. Contact BHC Our Website Contact us about retreats...
Future Template, Floatback, and Ego State Work in EMDR Therapy: From the EMDR Supplement 05.02.2024 1:03:13
Listen in to hear a special release from the Notice That Podcast. This episode concludes the winter special series on the EMDR Supplement, a 12 hour EMDRIA Advanced course designed to encourage and empower clinicians in their practice and embodiment of EMDR therapy. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .
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