Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher

Ashley joins the podcast for the first time, and the conversation turns toward something many people know too well: church hurt. But instead of using that phrase as a blanket accusation against the whole body of Christ, Zach, Jill, Brandon, and Ashley discuss what it really means to be hurt by broken people inside the church, and how Jesus can still heal what people damaged. They sh...

We talk often about the death and resurrection of Jesus, but what about His burial? In this episode, Zach and Jill discuss why Jesus' burial is not just an “in-between” moment. It is part of the gospel itself: death, burial, and resurrection. Joseph of Arimathea, a respected member of the council who was looking for the Kingdom of God, takes courage and asks Pilate for the body of Jesus. And the w...

In this episode, Zach, Jill, and Brandon discuss why the cross is bigger than a one-time transaction. In Mark 15:21–39, Jesus is led to Golgotha, mocked by the crowd, crucified between two criminals, and abandoned in darkness. He cries out the opening line of Psalm 22: “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” And then, when He breathes His last, the curtain of the temple is torn from top to bot...

Jackie and Cynthia survived one of the most devastating floods in recent memory. When Hurricane Helene tore through Western North Carolina, their home was destroyed, and they were swept away in raging floodwaters with only a mattress and their little dog, Romeo, keeping them alive. For three days they waited in the wreckage, praying for rescue and wondering if they would ever make it home. What ha...

In Mark 15:1–20, Jesus stands before Pilate, accused, mocked, and handed over. Pilate knows what’s happening, but still caves because he wishes to satisfy the crowd. In this episode, Zach, Jill, and Brandon discuss Barabbas going free, Jesus being mocked, and how envy and people-pleasing build rival kingdoms that always end in death. Mark 15 is a chasm where the “kingdom collision” becomes unavoid...

In Mark 14:66–72, Peter denies Jesus three times, not in front of a king or a soldier, but in front of a servant girl. The denials escalate, the fear takes over, and when the rooster crows, Peter collapses and weeps bitterly. In this episode, Zach, Jill, and Brandon break down why Peter’s denial exposes how fragile human willpower really is, and why the hope isn’t Peter’s resolve, it’s Jesus quiet...

In Mark 14:53–65, Zach, Jill and Brandon break down when Jesus stood before the high priest and the full council. Witnesses can’t keep their stories straight. They twist His words about the temple. And Jesus stays silent, until this question: "Are You The Christ?" Jesus answers, “I am.” And then He ties together the deepest threads of Scripture, Daniel 7’s Son of Man, Psalm 110’s “right hand of Po...

Right after the Lord’s Supper and Gethsemane, the betrayal happens and it’s bigger than most people imagine. In Mark 14:43–52, Judas arrives with a crowd carrying swords and clubs. His “sign” isn’t a weapon, it’s a kiss. Peter responds as the kingdoms of this world do: he draws his sword. And then, when things get real, everyone runs. In this episode, Zach and Jill unpack how both betrayals: Judas...

Max and Annabel are in town, and it’s wedding week! In this conversation, Zach and Jill sit down with them to talk about what it actually feels like to step into a lifelong covenant at 19 and 20, why modern culture discourages marriage, and why they believe covenant is still one of the most beautiful, grounding gifts God gave humanity. It’s funny, honest, and deeply hopeful: especially for young c...

A break from the usual, Zach and Jill sit down with two of their longtime mentors and friends, Mac and Mary Owens (Global Directors of Celebrate Recovery). It’s a raw, powerful conversation about the cost of secrecy, the freedom of confession, and how God can take the darkest parts of a story and turn them into the DNA of a movement that blesses generations. If you’re stuck in the shame cycle, hid...

Today Zach & Jill visit one of the most human, and most holy, moments in the Gospel of Mark. In Mark 14:26–42, Jesus leaves the table, returns to the Mount of Olives, and enters Gethsemane. He tells the disciples they will all fall away. Peter insists he never will. And then Jesus does the unthinkable: He falls to the ground and prays for the cup to pass, while choosing the Father’s will anyway.

Brandon’s back, just in time for one of the most important meals in Scripture where Jesus sits down with the disciples for Passover. Zach, Jill, and Brandon discuss why meals are everywhere in the Bible (from Eden to Exodus to the King’s table), and why communion isn’t just a “symbol” or a routine, it’s a weekly entrance into the story that forms our loves, confronts our pride, and binds us to one...

Mark 14 opens with a dark cloud: the leaders are plotting in secret, Judas is looking for an opportunity, and Jesus is days away from the cross. But right in the middle of it, a woman walks into a dinner and does something that looks reckless—an act that ends up becoming one of the most prophetic in the entire Gospel. In this episode, Zach and Jill walk through Mark 14 and show why this isn’t just...

Jill has almost no voice, and Brandon is out. Zach and Jill finish Mark 13 with one of the most discussed moments in the Gospels. They read Mark 13:24–37 and ask the big question: Is Jesus describing a future headline event, or is He pulling from Old Testament “apocalyptic” language and pointing to something the disciples would recognize—especially through Daniel 7? They pull the discussion to the...

Mark 13 has been turned into a hotbed for end-times debates for decades—but Jesus’ warning is far more grounded, far more urgent, and far more hopeful than most people realize. In this episode, Zach, Jill, and Brandon continue through Mark 13:14–23 and tackle one of the most debated sections in Scripture—not as an end-times scavenger hunt, but in the immediate context of Jesus’ warning about Jerus...

In this episode, Zach and Jill begin a pivotal conversation through Mark 13. Not as a fear-fueled scavenger hunt for modern headlines, but as a text rooted in the immediate context: the temple’s coming down, and the birth of a new order in Christ. The Kingdom is here now, it’s time to participate in it.

Zach sits down with his oldest son, Max, for a father-and-son conversation about growing up, rooting in, and building a life that lasts. Max is 20, graduating soon, going on tour, and getting married. This moment of “everything is happening at once” becomes the backdrop for a deeper conversation about fear, responsibility, and the kind of commitments that form a man. It’s practical, honest, and fu...

In Jesus’ final public teaching inside the temple, He exposes the scribes’ performance—long robes, public prayers, religious prestige—and then points to a poor widow with two small coins. One is production. The other is posture. In this episode, Zach, Jill, and Brandon walk through Mark 12:35–44 and ask what it means to follow a King who can’t be contained by religious systems or political power....

What if the question “What matters most?” is actually a question about who God is—not just what we should do? In this episode, we discuss how easy it is to turn faith into a manageable system: doctrinal checklists, spiritual scorecards, and asking, "What's the minimum I have to get right?"” But Jesus pulls us into something deeper: not just knowledge about God, but communion with God that forms ou...

The Sadducees try to trap Jesus with a “logical” argument about resurrection, but Jesus exposes the real problem: a closed imagination that can’t see beyond their system. In Mark 12:18–27, Zach, Jill, and Brandon walk through why an argument can be coherent and still miss the truth. They also connect this moment to our current cultural shift: when information becomes infinite and "letter-only" thi...

Mark 12 confronts us with a sobering warning: what happens when stewards start acting like owners? In this episode, Brandon and Zach walk through the parable of the tenants and unpack the subtle drift that can happen in any church or heart. What was entrusted to us can slowly begin to feel like it belongs to us. And when that shift happens, reverence fades and control creeps in. They wrestle with...

Zach admits something right out of the gate: he doesn’t do well with passive-aggressive people—and then Mark 12 confronts us with a Jesus who can feel surprisingly aggressive. But is Jesus being harsh, or is He being clear? In this episode, Zach, Jill, and Brandon step into Mark 12 and talk about the tension every believer has to learn: leaving real room for the Holy Spirit to move, without trying...

Who gets to claim authority—and how do we tell the difference between wicked power and godly authority? In Mark 11:27–33, the religious leaders confront Jesus with a question meant to trap Him: “By what authority are you doing these things?” But instead of playing their game, Jesus exposes something deeper—how easy it is to use questions as weapons, and how hard it is to ask questions that actuall...

What was Jesus truly doing when He cursed the fig tree and then overturned the tables in the temple? In Mark 11, Zach, Jill, and Brandon delve into the connection between the fig tree incident and the temple scene. They explain that Jesus wasn’t cursing people for their struggles with sin. Instead, He was exposing a system of counterfeit, fruitless religion that appeared vibrant on the surface but...

In Mark’s account of the Triumphal Entry, Jesus doesn’t arrive with a war horse, a sword, or a show of force. He comes low. And at first glance, it can almost feel demeaning. But what if that “humble ride” is actually a declaration of absolute authority? In this episode, Zach, Jill, and Brandon walk through mark 11 and talk about how the crowd’s expectations weren’t wrong they were just too small....