NOT FRAGILE PODCAST

EPISODE SUMMARY: Let’s be honest no one likes talking about it, but what do you do when employees suck ? When one bad attitude starts poisoning the culture you’ve worked so hard to build? In this episode, Sabrina shares a real story from her own business about a talented but toxic employee who taught her one of the toughest lessons in leadership: you can’t save someone who doesn’t want to change....

Episode Summary Sabrina sits down with Elena Ledoux, attorney turned multi-business founder, immigrant entrepreneur, and the definition of fearless logic in motion. Elena's story begins with helping a friend clean houses in Las Vegas just to make rent and evolves into multiple multimillion dollar companies, including Boss Security Screens , one of the nation’s fastest growing safety brands. In thi...

Episode Summary: Sabrina breaks down three clear signs that your pride (and comfort) may be capping your company’s growth. Through personal stories her mom’s battle with cancer, a “smartest kid in class” cousin, and her daughter’s wall of location sharing friends she shows why delegation, listening, and community are non-negotiable if you want to scale. This is your nudge to stop doing the 10 minu...

Episode Summary: Sabrina sits down with Stephanie Allen , co-owner of AirWorks Heating, Air & Plumbing (Ventura County, CA), JD/MBA, mom of four, and champion of tradespeople. Stephanie shares how she and her husband Kevin launched AirWorks in 2010 during a tough economy, why their brand leans “family-run, mom-approved,” and how they’re expanding into plumbing while keeping culture, systems, a...

Episode Summary: In this reflective solo episode, Sabrina shares a powerful meditation on happiness, often attributed to Pope Francis, that challenges us to rethink what it really means to live a fulfilled life. Happiness isn’t about a perfect sky or a road without bumps it’s about finding strength in forgiveness, courage in setbacks, and joy even in simple, quiet moments. Sabrina unpacks the mess...

Episode Summary: In this inspiring conversation, Sabrina sits down with Linda Nelson , CEO of Greenscapes, who transformed her mother’s small sod business into a $20+ million landscaping powerhouse . Linda shares how she grew up on a farm, leaned into her tomboy roots, and carved out space for herself in a male-dominated industry —without sacrificing her femininity or values. From hiring women’s s...

Episode Summary: Sabrina shares three simple, high-impact ways to close more jobs without increasing your marketing budget. From “PFPS: People First, Process Second” to delivering “Service with a Heart” and putting care ahead of the checklist , she shows how tiny moments of humanity create memorable experiences that beat price and features every time. Real stories FedEx at the door, driverless car...

Episode Summary: In this episode of the Not Fragile Podcast , Sabrina sits down with Debbie Sardone , one of the most respected leaders in the cleaning industry. What started as a way to make extra money cleaning houses in 1981 grew into one of the largest maid service businesses in the country , a global nonprofit (Cleaning for a Reason) , and one of the most impactful consulting firms in the ind...

Episode Summary: Sabrina gets real about confidence, not as something you “do,” but something you feel . Through raw personal stories (leaving a 20-year marriage, near-misses with her kids, and an epic MTB wipeout) and lessons from powerhouse women in the trades, she lays out three simple but potent shifts: flip the switch from uncertainty to fearless action , be a tenacious trailblazer through th...

Episode Summary: In this episode of the Not Fragile Podcast , Sabrina talks with Carrie , founder of A Plus Garage Doors , about how she built a thriving, multi-location business from scratch while raising three kids. Carrie opens up about her self-doubt in the early days, how she hid her role as owner, and what it took to finally step forward as the face of her company. She shares the lessons tha...

Episode Summary: In this episode of the Not Fragile Podcast , Sabrina shares how generosity—not money—is one of the most powerful ways to set yourself apart from competitors. Drawing from her grandmother’s life lessons and decades of caregiving, she unpacks how simple acts of giving, listening, and caring can transform company culture, customer relationships, and long-term success. Resources Free:...

Episode Summary: In this episode Sabrina chats with Ashley RaeAnn Smith , owner of Spartan Roof Construction (Kingwood, TX), to unpack how she went from aircraft mechanic to leading a multi-million-dollar, 100% female-owned roofing company. They get into SOPs, reputation, community service, handling industry bias, and why “ethics above everything” drives growth that sticks. Resources: Free: 5 Mill...

Episode Summary: Do you ever log into your business bank account with the same fear you feel when you spot a spider on your kid’s bedroom wall? You’re not alone, and today, Sabrina is sharing three practical strategies to keep more money in your account without adding stress or credit card debt. In this episode of the Not Fragile Podcast , Sabrina gets real about her own journey with money, from g...

Episode Summary: What does amazing company culture really mean? For some, it’s free snacks and team outings. For others, it’s just having a boss who listens. In this episode of the Not Fragile Podcast , Sabrina Jones shares real stories—from preschool classrooms to basketball courts to boardrooms—about what truly builds (or breaks) culture inside your company. You’ll hear how small acts of recogni...

Episode Summary: What happens when you pick up a paintbrush at 40 and decide to build something bigger than yourself? In this episode of the Not Fragile Podcast , host Sabrina Jones sits down with Michal Cheney , owner of No Drip Painting in Columbus, Ohio. What started as Michal and a paintbrush has grown into a multi-million-dollar company with 30+ team members —and a mission to change lives thr...

Episode Summary: Welcome to the very first episode of the Not Fragile Podcast —the show built for powerhouse women in the home service industry who refuse to play small. In this kickoff episode, host Sabrina Jones shares the heart behind Not Fragile, her own journey from startup struggles to running multi-million-dollar moving, storage, and cleaning companies, and why she believes women in this in...