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Episode Summary In this solo episode, Sabrina tackles the fear that keeps so many women business owners stuck: the terror of making that first office hire. The worry usually sounds like "if I get busier, I'll have to hire someone — and I'm not sure I can afford it." Sabrina reframes it: you're not paying for hours, you're paying for the hours you get back . Drawing on the story of Cindy Williams —...

Episode Summary Sabrina sits down with Ashley Haynes, the 36-year-old owner of Coastal Alabama Heating and Air Conditioning — and also a mother of five, a homeschooler, a hospice volunteer, and a nursing student. In this warm, wide-ranging conversation, Ashley shares how a poor, rural Ohio childhood pushed her into the trades at twelve, hauling shingles and mixing concrete to win her mom's bet wit...

Episode Summary She was paying him commission on every new client he brought in. The company hadn't collected a dime from the customers. By the time Sabrina noticed, Maids of Mover had $21,000 in accounts receivable — for a cleaning company charging $135 a clean. In this solo episode, Sabrina shares one of her worst onboarding mistakes and then hands you the 30-day framework that would have preven...

Episode Summary What do you do when you're a single mom running a landscaping company, managing a nursery partnership that's falling apart, going through a divorce, surviving a miscarriage, rescuing your daughter from a difficult situation, caring for a 96-year-old grandmother with dementia, and still showing up to work in the dirt every morning? If you're Elisa Clark, you figure it out — and you...

Episode Summary: You've heard people say giving back is good for the soul. But what if it's also good for your bottom line? In this solo episode, Sabrina makes the case that generosity is one of the most powerful — and most underused — marketing channels available to home service business owners. And chances are you're already doing it. You're just not seeing it that way. Sabrina shares her own st...

Episode Summary: Two Emmy Awards. Twenty-seven years in Hollywood lighting live television spectacles like Dancing with the Stars and American Idol. Then a bad countertop experience in rural Wisconsin changed everything. Sabrina sits down with Suzanne Sotelo, founder of Gallery 77 in Hudson, Wisconsin, for a conversation that is equal parts origin story, business reality check, and creative manife...

Episode Summary It's not who you know. It's who knows you. In this solo episode, Sabrina delivers one of her sharpest and most actionable frameworks yet: the Power of Three. You don't need to own your city. You just need to own three zip codes — and become the stupid obvious choice in each one. Sabrina opens with a childhood story about accidentally destroying a row of carrot seedlings with her gr...

Episode Summary What happens when a woman who did hair, stayed home with her kids for seven years, put herself through business school during COVID while pregnant, and grew up as number six of seven in a family navigating addiction — walks into a plumbing and HVAC company and the owner almost doesn't hire her because she's a woman? She doubles the business in a year, adds electrical, gets licensed...

Episode Summary A five-star review is a $500 lead. And most home service businesses are leaving them on the table because they wait too long to ask — or never ask at all. In this solo episode, Sabrina makes the case that reviews are the cheapest, most effective lead generation tool in home services, and then hands you a done-for-you system to capture them in four minutes per job. The framework is...

Episode Summary: What do you do when you fall obsessively in love with outdoor lighting at your son's graduation party, spend a decade mastering the craft for someone else's company, and then watch your husband go through a serious injury that forces everything to stop? You take six months off, rediscover what matters, and come back with a plan to build something on your own terms. Sabrina sits do...

Episode Summary You're spending money on Facebook ads, committing to marketing agencies, and watching your P&L bleed a little more every month. Meanwhile, your best revenue source has been sitting quietly on your customer list this whole time. In this solo episode, Sabrina delivers one of the most practical and honest marketing reality checks the show has offered: for home service companies do...

Episode Summary What if the reason you can't sleep, can't focus, and feel drained the moment you walk through your front door has nothing to do with your schedule — and everything to do with your walls? Sabrina sits down with Jeanette Chazworth, founder of The Color Whisperer in Pasadena, California, for one of the most unexpected and genuinely fascinating conversations the show has ever had. Jean...

Episode Summary If you're still doing estimates, packing boxes, or unloading 45 rugs from a 53-foot trailer by yourself — you're not failing at being a CEO. You're just in a transitional chapter. And that chapter is exactly what builds the company you're trying to become. In this solo episode, Sabrina gets real about the hardest seat in any home service business: the one where you've got one foot...

Episode Summary What happens when a fashion designer from Kazakhstan organizes a festival for 70,000 people in St. Petersburg, moves to Brazil, lands in Miami, learns four languages, and eventually asks ChatGPT where she should focus her AI company? She ends up building voice agents for moving companies, and it turns out that was exactly right. Sabrina sits down with Daria Parreto, co-founder of B...

Episode Summary If every decision in your business goes through you, your business isn't a business. It's a job. In this solo episode, Sabrina delivers that hard truth with warmth and humor — and then gives you three diagnostic tests you can run in a single afternoon to find out whether you're the bottleneck and which one to clear first. She opens with a story about a roofer who had to cancel thei...

Episode Summary What do you do when you're three years into a demanding international travel role, working on Mother's Day with no response from your boss, and your husband has been running a painting company that could really use your marketing brain? You quit without a plan, pick up a laser measuring tool, and figure it out as you go. Sabrina sits down with Olga de la Cruz, co-owner of HQ Painti...

Episode Summary The five words Sabrina hears most often from women in home services: "I didn't know I could." In this solo episode, she breaks down five permissions every woman business owner already has — and isn't using. Raise a price. Fire a client who costs you your peace. Take a Friday off without telling anyone why. Say no to a referral that doesn't fit your ideal customer. Charge for an est...

Episode Summary What does it look like to build a nearly $5M plumbing company with your high school sweetheart, raise five kids including twins, get your master plumber license at eight months pregnant, and still show up to deliver hot Thanksgiving meals to families in need — six years in a row? Sabrina sits down with Ashley Stroud, co-owner of Plumbing Outfitters in Central Texas, for a conversat...

Episode Summary If you quoted three jobs, answered twelve calls, fixed a payroll bug, and packed a truck today, who exactly is running your company? In this solo episode, Sabrina delivers one of the most practical frameworks the show has ever offered: a two-color highlighter audit that tells you in under an hour whether your week was owner work or operator work. The framework is simple and a littl...

Episode Summary What happens when you're newly divorced, living alone on five and a half acres, staring at a fallen pine tree, and you just decide to handle it yourself? You go to Lowe's, buy an electric chainsaw, put on a flannel shirt and your hiking boots, and make that first cut. For Donna Hunter, that moment became a blog, a handywoman business, a book series, and a mission to show women ever...

Episode Summary (~155 words) What's the decision you've been avoiding, the one that would change everything if you finally made it? In this deeply personal solo episode, Sabrina opens up about leaving a 19-year marriage to a doctor, rediscovering herself after 13 years of staying home with her kids, and the two moves that helped her build two multi-million dollar companies from zero experience on...

Episode Summary Some origin stories stop you in your tracks. This is one of them. Sabrina sits down with Katie Poole, owner of The Chimney Guys in Ohio, for a conversation that covers grief, bankruptcy, a $350,000 bond, wrongful charges, rock bottom sobriety, a baby born with cystic fibrosis, and a woman who rebuilt her late father's chimney company from nothing into 13 trucks, a certification no...

Episode Summary Don't let the title scare you, this episode is about thriving, not surviving. In this solo episode, Sabrina shares what she heard at an early morning breakfast with an economist in February: revenue will grow, but profit will get harder to protect. Wages up 20% over five years. A recession in the early 2030s. Possibly a depression. So what do you do with that information if you're...

Episode Summary What do you do when you need flexibility for foster kids, a growing family, and parents in their 80s, but you still need something that's yours? You crawl into attics, squeeze through crawl spaces, and become the only woman-owned home inspection company in Washington State. Sabrina sits down with Leona Gonzalez, founder of Elevated Home Inspections in the Tri-Cities, Washington, fo...

Episode Summary If you've ever cringed listening to one of your employees on the phone with a prospect, this episode is the fix. In this solo episode, Sabrina breaks down the three critical elements every sales script needs to stop your people from blowing it in the first sixty seconds, and start closing deals like an ice cream cone on a hot summer day. The framework is simple enough to implement...