Joan Garry & Glennda Testone
Nonprofits Are Messy: Lessons in Leadership | Fundraising | Board Development | Communications
Nonprofits Are Messy is the podcast for nonprofit leaders navigating the real challenges of leadership, fundraising, governance, communications, and organizational growth. Hosted by Joan Garry and Glennda Testone, each episode features candid conversations, practical advice, and honest stories to help you lead with greater confidence through the messiness of nonprofit work.
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Jun 20, 2026
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Episodes
Ep 59: Scaling Up Your Nonprofit (with Kathleen Kelly Janus) 19.05.2018 45:47
Your nonprofit has hit a wall and you want to scale up. But how? Why do some organizations grow and others do not? In this episode, Kathleen demystifies the process for “biggie-sizing” your nonprofit.
Ep 58: Is It Time to Leave Facebook? (with Julia Campbell) 05.05.2018 51:13
Facebook has broken trust with the public. Should your nonprofit think about leaving the platform? Learn how Cambridge Analytics purchased data from people who did not explicitly give permission and how this affects your nonprofit.
Ep 57: You Can Do Hard Things 14.04.2018 24:02
How can you run a nonprofit with so little staff? You want to make a difference with that budget? There is so much hard work to be done - surely you can’t do these hard things, can you? Guess what… you can. Here’s the proof.
Ep 56: Anatomy of a Crisis (with Emily Klehm) 07.04.2018 47:56
When a major crisis hit – an employee had been mugged at gunpoint and a dog stolen – Emily Klehm stepped up big time as the leader of the South Suburban Humane Society. But she never could have guessed what would happen next.
Ep 55: The Nonprofit Sector Has Serious Money Hangups (with Belinda Rosenblum) 31.03.2018 49:09
Do you get anxious asking people for donations? How much salary should the leader of a nonprofit make? How do you feel about wealthy people? The answers to these questions all come down to your deeply rooted feelings about money. How can we recognize and understand these feelings so we can make them more productive?
Ep 54: The 15-Year-Old Nonprofit Superhero (with Kayla & Andrea Abramowitz) 17.03.2018 49:00
Kayla Abramowitz is AMAZING. At 11 years old, she founded a nonprofit that helps sick kids feel a whole lot better. In this episode, Kayla and her CEO-mom share what they’ve learned over the last 4 years running their nonprofit, and provide some well-earned wisdom for every nonprofit founder out there.
Ep 53: Asking for Money Isn’t Sexy… But Philanthropy Is (with Claire Axelrad) 03.03.2018 43:45
Neuroscientists confirm that when somebody gives a donation, it lights up the same part of the brain as having sex or eating chocolate. So why does fundraising give so many adults the creeps? And how to you build a culture of philanthropy where everyone understands how they can effectively contribute?
Ep 52: Personal Politics vs. Public Responsibilities (with Anne Wallestad) 17.02.2018 39:00
Every person who joins a board comes with opinions and points of view. But what happens when your responsibility to your organization as a board member conflicts with your personal politics? Should you keep it to yourself?
Ep 51: A Symphony of Shared Leadership (with Jim Roe and Bernard Labadie) 03.02.2018 44:31
At arts orgs, how should power be shared when, in addition to the Executive Director, there is also a creative director who is, perhaps, the most important leader of all? My guests explain how their very successful shared leadership model really works for them, and ultimately results in a beautiful symphony.
Ep 50: Why Bartenders Make Great Leaders (with Helen Rothberg) 20.01.2018 49:01
Based on lessons she learned working as a bartender while pursuing degrees in business and behavioral science, Dr. Helen Rothberg identifies leaders by a cocktail of choices they make; how to approach obstacles, managing conflict, facilitating groups and connections, adapting to current realities, and much more.
Ep 49: How To Make 2018 a Whole Lot Better 06.01.2018 42:12
This podcast is about resolving to bounce back. It’s about living in a world of unease while keeping your passion and desire to improve it -- alive and well. In this episode, I share 15 things worth a shot in 2018. These non-resolutions have three things in common. They are doable, universal, and meaningful.
Ep 48: Building a Culture of Gratitude 16.12.2017 43:40
A strong leader builds an organizational culture of gratitude. It impacts your staff, board, volunteers, donors, and more. But how do you do it? And when?
Ep 47: How to Engage Millennials (with Abra Annes) 02.12.2017 56:16
How do we engage millennials and get them to support causes we care about, and that we hope they care about too? That's the topic of today's podcast...
Ep 46: Strategic Program Design (with Lindsay Hoffman) 18.11.2017 41:37
Too often, nonprofits become distracted by the newest and shiniest programming. This can cause big opportunities to be missed. Lindsay Hoffman explains...
Ep 45: The Final 60 Days of the Year (with Seth Rosen) 04.11.2017 39:54
We're now in the critical year-end fundraising season. It's daunting. My guest, Seth Rosen, will help you sort it out and make the most of these 2 months…
Ep 44: The Executive Director With No Staff (with Sarah Audet) 14.10.2017 39:28
With everything nonprofit leaders have to get done, imagine that you are the only staff person. What would that look like? I wanted to know...
Ep 43: Nonprofits, Storytelling, and ‘This American Life’ (with Alex Blumberg) 30.09.2017 39:41
Alex Blumberg, executive producer of 'This American Life' discusses with me the power of storytelling to activate people to engage and help your nonprofit.
Ep 42: What’s With All The Ribbons? (with Dan Osheyack) 16.09.2017 38:16
In this episode, my guest Dan Osheyack and I will explore issues of awareness, action, and cause marketing at nonprofits.
Ep 41: What Every New Board Member Needs to Understand 29.07.2017 39:39
I’d love for this podcast to be played for new board members – maybe at an orientation or perhaps at a board retreat when you are setting expectations.
Ep 40: Overcoming Fundraising Mistakes (with Jim Bennett) 15.07.2017 40:46
Fundraising can be full of landmines. But is there a way to turn fundraising lemons into lemonade? Why yes, I do believe there is.
Ep 39: From Kitchen Volunteer to Board Chair (with Sylvia Vogelman) 01.07.2017 41:01
Multiple studies show the positive benefits of volunteering (for the volunteer). Today's guest took that to the limit and ultimately became the board chair!
Ep 38: What the Heck is Marketing Anyway? (with Sarah Durham) 17.06.2017 43:38
Marketing, done right, is central to all aspects of a nonprofit organization, from raising money to attracting the best people to enabling programs...
Ep 37: The Partnership That Drives a Thriving Nonprofit (with Kim Freedman and Nick Purrington) 03.06.2017 45:52
What is the single best indicator of a thriving nonprofit? A strong partnership between the board and staff leaders. So I spoke with both and asked them...
Ep 36: The Community Builder Who Became a Philanthropist (with Stu McLaren) 13.05.2017 38:50
How does one of the foremost experts in building online communities end up working to help thousands of children in Africa get a daily education?
Ep 35: Stop Asking Your Board to Fundraise! (With Gail Perry) 29.04.2017 38:45
In this episode fundraising expert Gail Perry argues that pushing your board members to fundraise is a big mistake. She suggests a better approach...
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