Joan Garry & Glennda Testone

Nonprofits Are Messy: Lessons in Leadership | Fundraising | Board Development | Communications

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Nonprofits Are Messy is the podcast for nonprofit leaders navigating the real challenges of leadership, fundraising, governance, communications, and organizational growth. Hosted by Joan Garry and Glennda Testone, each episode features candid conversations, practical advice, and honest stories to help you lead with greater confidence through the messiness of nonprofit work.

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Joan Garry & Glennda Testone

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joangarry.com

Latest episode

Jun 20, 2026

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Episodes

Ep 206: The Nonprofit Sector’s PR Problem – And How We Can Fix It 22.06.2024

The nonprofit sector has a serious PR problem that impacts its ability to garner adequate support. Nonprofit leaders have a powerful opportunity to be ambassadors and advocates for the sector as a whole. In this episode, I make a poignant call to action for nonprofit leaders everywhere to rally to the side of saving public perception of the important work they do.

Ep. 205: The Power and Influence of the Nonprofit Sector (with Dr. Akilah Watkins) 08.06.2024

Let’s discuss collective nonprofit power - what it is, what it isn’t, and what the nonprofit sector could do to harness it. To do more good in the world, we need to stand in our collective power which includes, ironically, taking a seat at the table.

Ep 204: Build Your Volunteer Dream Team (with Matt Miszewski) 25.05.2024

Need to build capacity? Fix your fundraising? Graphics design or marketing? HR support? Then you need to know about Catchafire, an organization that is bridging paths to stronger communities by aligning nonprofits with expert volunteers.

Ep 203: Can You Answer These 10 Funder Questions? 13.05.2024

Congrats! A funder is considering donating to your nonprofit and they have questions. For some, this request instills panic. Here is how to prepare!

Ep 202: The Master of Mobilizing Movements (with Jeremy Heimans) 27.04.2024

Since he was 8 years old, Jeremy Heimans has been mobilizing movements that galvanize people for social change. He is the guru to ask about how to reach people and motivate them to take action. In this episode, he shares his insights.

Ep 201: Cultural Intelligence: A Major Key to a Thriving Nonprofit (with Dr. Pablo Otaola) 15.04.2024

You’ve heard of IQ and EQ. But, CQ is the third intelligence that empowers a nonprofit leader to mightily drive the mission with the strong, rallying support of a unified team. Listen in to learn what CQ is, how it works, and why it matters in the nonprofit landscape like never before.

Ep 200: The 200th Episode: Gratitude & Observations About This Amazing Journey 30.03.2024

Releasing episode 200 of the Nonprofits Are Messy podcast is a milestone. It has been a journey full of insights, observations, and a big fat “I told you so”. This is a look back at how far we’ve come together.

Ep 199: The Fearless Election Year Fundraising Plan (with Tom Kissane) 16.03.2024

Conservative and risk-averse boards tend to lower expectations and pull back on fundraising during an election year. In this episode with Tom Kissane, Vice Chairman of CCS Fundraising, he shares compelling reasons to go boldly forward with your organization’s fundraising efforts in 2024.

Ep 198: Challenging the Status Quo in Long-Standing Organizations (with Cica Dadjo) 02.03.2024

What is the secret to implementing DEI strategy in long-standing nonprofit organizations? Cica Dadjo, Chief GEDI at the IRC, shares universal lessons that can help nonprofit leaders disrupt the status quo of organizational culture.

Ep 197: Stop Calling It Microaggressions: A Call To Action To Intercept Subtle Acts Of Exclusion (with Dr. Tiffany Jana) 17.02.2024

It is a misnomer. There is nothing ‘micro’ about microaggression. What is the real meaning of microaggression, what should it truly be called, and how can a leader recognize and take action to tackle it? Dr. Tiffany Jana shares her insights, why she has stopped using the word ‘crazy’, and what organizations can do to create a culture of awareness.

Ep 196: How Risky Is AI For Nonprofits? (with Beth Kanter) 03.02.2024

Organizations around the world are using artificial intelligence to improve processes, delegate tasks, and drive progress. What do nonprofit leaders need to know?

Ep 195: Conflict Resolution and Finding the Third Ground (with Ken Cloke) 20.01.2024

World-renowned conflict resolution expert, Ken Cloke, shares his secrets for overcoming conflict using proven strategies from his mediation practice that have brought "impossible" conflicts to peace across the world for 4 decades.

Ep 194: Leaders of Color in Nonprofits: Challenges and Opportunities (with April Frazier Camara) 16.12.2023

In this episode, I chat with April Frazier Camara about how diversity is the secret sauce in nonprofit leadership. Her insights? Eye-opening. You'll see our sector in a whole new light.

Ep 193: Is “Martyritis” Killing Your Organization? (with Kishshana Palmer) 02.12.2023

In our sector, time often feels like a scarce resource. You're likely juggling countless tasks, believing that maximum productivity is the key to fulfilling your mission. But what if we're approaching time all wrong?

Ep 192: Embracing Our Finite Time (with Oliver Burkeman) 18.11.2023

In our sector, time often feels like a scarce resource. You're likely juggling countless tasks, believing that maximum productivity is the key to fulfilling your mission. But what if we're approaching time all wrong?

Ep 191: How to Build Amazing Work Relationships (with Michael Bungay Stanier) 04.11.2023

Great work relationships lead to greater job satisfaction and higher employee retention. Michael Bungay Stanier shares with us his recipe for designing our work relationships to thrive.

Ep 190: Nonprofits Turn Cities Into Communities (with Mayor Ras J. Baraka) 21.10.2023

In this episode, Mayor Ras J. Baraka of Newark, NJ shed light on a beautiful partnership dance between city government and nonprofits. These organizations, he shared, often handle tasks the city can't, challenging local governance to aim higher, do better.

Ep 189: Is a 5-Star Development Director a Needle in a Haystack? 07.10.2023

Organizations often stay with a subpar development director because they don't believe they could get someone better. Let's explore this assumption.

Ep 188: Can A Teen Be Your Next Executive Director? (with Sarah Hernholm) 23.09.2023

How do we ensure that the next generation of nonprofit leadership is prepared? Sarah Hernholm shares her groundbreaking work with WIT.

Ep 187: Don’t Be a Mission Creep! 09.09.2023

Mission creep is a big problem for many nonprofits. Here’s some practical advice on how to prevent it.

Ep 186: Emotional Intelligence is the Key to Better Leadership (with Daniel Goleman) 26.08.2023

How can we improve our emotional intelligence and become better leaders as a result? Daniel Goleman, author of "Emotional Intelligence", explains.

Ep 185 - The Surprising Impact of a Strong Organizational Value Statement (with Lindsay Hoffman) 29.07.2023

Let's bring your organizational values to life in a tangible way. Join me and Lindsay Hoffman as we transform vague concepts into a potent value statement that drives your nonprofit's mission.

Ep 184: Nobody Told Me I’d Have to Fundraise! 15.07.2023

Let’s unpack the truth about board fundraising expectations…

Ep 183: ​​The Nonprofit Superhero's Guide to Mindful Leadership (with Dan Harris) 17.06.2023

Tune in as Dan Harris from 10% Happier and I explore meditation as a vital tool for mindful leadership, helping you control ego and anxiety for a greater impact.

Ep 182: Why Every Nonprofit Leader Needs a Coach (with Laura Zielke and Darian Heyman Rodriguez) 03.06.2023

Nonprofit coaching can be transformative, but there are different styles as my guests Laura Zielke and Darian Heyman Rodriguez demonstrate in this compelling and actionable episode.

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