Ron Barry and Greg Lehr

No Manual Included- A Kansas Education Podcast on Leadership

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Welcome to No Manual Included, the podcast where two Kansas superintendents dig into what it really means to lead in a world where there’s no instruction book for the challenges we face. I’m Greg Lehr from USD 262, joined by Dr. Ron Barry from USD 440, and every episode we have candid conversations about leadership, growth, and the future of education in Kansas. We explore with our guests the experiences that shape us, the decisions that define us, and the communication and collaboration that make strong school communities possible. If you’re an educator, leader, or someone who cares deeply ab...

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Ron Barry and Greg Lehr

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Education

Latest episode

Jul 8, 2026

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Episodes

NMI Episode #9: Jamie Rumford 08.07.2026

In this episode of No Manual Included, hosts Greg Lehr and Ron Barry sit down with Jamie Rumford, Superintendent of Scott County Schools USD 466, to discuss leadership, rural education, and the importance of building a strong school culture. Jamie shares insights from his more than three decades in education and reflects on his journey leading Scott County Schools since 2014. In addition to leadin...

NMI Episode 8: Dr. Craig Correll USD 445 18.06.2026

In Episode 8 of No Manual Included, Greg and Ron sit down with former Superintendent of the year Craig Correll from USD 445 Coffeyville Public Schools.  Dr. Correll is a strong advocate for public education across the state of Kansas and has held leadership roles in KSSA.  

NMI Episode 7: Dr. Randy Watson - Commissioner of KSDE 03.06.2026

Join Greg and Ron as they do a live podcast from the USAKansas Conference with the Kansas Commissioner of Education, Dr. Randy Watson.  Greg and Ron sit down with Dr. Watson and fellow administrators as he reflects on his career as a teacher, coach, building administrator, assistant superintendent, superintendent, and Commissioner of Education at KSDE.  

NMI Episode 6: Adrian Howie Superintendent USD 210 14.05.2026

Greg and Ron sit down with the Superintendent of USD 210, Adrain Howie to discuss the people that had the greatest impact on his leadership journey, how he adapts his leadership style, his passion for western Kansas school districts, and so much more!  

NMI Episode 5: Cindy Couchman USD 313 29.04.2026

Greg and Ron link up with the USD 313 Superintendent of Schools, Cindy Couchman, from Buhler, Kansas.  Cindy longtime classroom teacher and Kansas Teach of the Year winner, who then served as Curriculum Director, and finally transitioned into the Superintendent role in the community that she has served for many years.  She is the current Kansas School Superintendent Association President, where sh...

NMI Episode 4: Dr. Cory Gibson USD 232 15.04.2026

Greg and Ron welcome Dr. Cory Gibson, Superintendent at USD 232 DeSoto Schools where he shares his unique connection to our two hosts.  

NMI Episode 3 with Don Potter - Circle USD 375 01.04.2026

Join Ron and Greg as they welcome their 3rd guest on the podcast, Don Potter.  Don currently is the superintendent at Circle USD 375 and has served in that position since 2017.  He has over 27 years of experience in K12 education serving as a teacher, coach, principal, and district administrator .  He was a 2024 Superintendent of the Year Finalist for the state of Kansas and previously served as t...

NMI Episode 2 with Karen Burrows 20.03.2026
No Manual Included with Don Epps 02.03.2026

Welcome to our first episode of No Manual Included!  Join Greg and Ron as they interview their first guest, Mr. Don Epps, Superintendent USD 344 Pleasanton Schools! 

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