Emily Kircher-Morris
Neurodiversity Podcast
The Neurodiversity Podcast talks with leaders in the fields of psychology, education, and beyond, about positively impacting neurodivergent people. Our goal is to reframe differences that were once considered disabilities or disorders, promote awareness of this unique population, and improve the lives of neurodivergent and high-ability people.
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Jul 8, 2026
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Episodes
Is This A Game To You? Let's Talk Play Therapy 28.04.2022 28:08
Play therapy is an often misunderstood counseling technique. On episode 123 we clear up some of the misunderstandings, with help from Katie Bassiri , a neurodiversity-affirming play therapist. We also talk about our new online course for educators, "Strategies for Supporting Twice-Exceptional Students," which is now available at www.neurodiversity.university . ABOUT THE GUEST - Katie Bassiri, LPCC...
Attorney, Author, Artist, Autistic 19.04.2022 35:14
A three-year-old with an autism diagnosis is looking at a completely different future than someone who has masked their neurodivergence for years. We talk with Haley Moss , an attorney, author, and consultant, who helps companies create a neurodiversity-friendly atmosphere. She was diagnosed at age 3, and now has strong opinions about what it takes to move the world in the right direction, but she...
Understanding Pathological Demand Avoidance with Harry J. Thompson 11.04.2022 37:27
What is Pathological Demand Avoidance and how does it manifest among the neurodivergent? What can we do to educate parents, teachers, and counselors about how to approach it? Understanding demand avoidance can completely transform the way you look at a child. During World Autism Acceptance Month , we feature a conversation with Harry J. Thompson from 2019, on episode 121. ABOUT THE GUEST - Harry J...
We're Not Broken with Eric Garcia 07.04.2022 29:24
World Autism Acceptance Month continues as Emily Kircher-Morris has a conversation with Washington DC policy and politics journalist Eric Garcia . Eric is autistic, and the author of We're Not Broken: Changing the Autism Conversation . They talk about the shifts in how society views and supports autistic individuals, and what still needs to be done. Also don't forget the Bright and Quirky Summit 2...
Autism's History and Neurodiversity's Future with Steve Silberman 04.04.2022 41:27
As part of our special coverage for World Autism Acceptance Month , we talk with Steve Silberman , author of Neurotribes , about autism, the neurodiversity movement, and where it's going. We talk about the writing of Neurotribes , and discuss some other books you might want to check out. This is an encore presentation of an earlier interview from 2021. Also don't forget the Bright and Quirky Summi...
Embracing the Bright Without Quashing the Quirky 31.03.2022 29:31
The landscape is slowly changing for neurodivergent kids, but progress is slow and we're facing headwinds. Getting a diagnosis is still integral to receiving educational services and insurance benefits, but there are downsides that can work to impede progress. Debbie Steinberg Kuntz joins us on episode 118 to talk about those subjects, and the free Bright & Quirky Summit April 4-8. The summit brin...
Letting Your Geek Flag Fly: Guidelines for Strengths-Based Supports 23.03.2022 29:17
Whether you're a therapist, parent, or even teacher, it pays to embrace the gaming geeks around you by learning more about their world. Through efforts like relating to game characters, understanding the games they enjoy, and spending time in their world with them, you can learn new ways to help support them in the real world. Anthony Bean is the author of several books about the therapeutic impli...
Understanding Behaviors and Emotional Regulation with Mona Delahooke 10.03.2022 36:43
What is top down behavior, and how does it differ from bottom up behavior? Why is emotional regulation more difficult for neurodivergent people? How impactful or traumatic can a misdiagnosis or missed diagnosis be? Dr. Mona Delahooke , author of the new book Brain-Body Parenting (release date March 15), joins us to discuss these questions and more on episode 116. ABOUT THE GUEST - Mona Delahooke,...
The Rewards and Punishment Paradox with Alfie Kohn 25.02.2022 29:34
The data tells us rewarding kids for good behavior and punishing them for bad doesn't work. In fact, it harms relationships. In the education setting and at home, Alfie Kohn says we need to rethink the way we talk to kids, and how we help them learn behavioral skills, because rewards and punishment are ineffective. Emily Kircher-Morris has a conversation with Alfie Kohn , author of Unconditional P...
Raising Twice-Exceptional Children, a Book Preview 04.02.2022 13:28
A new book by Emily Kircher-Morris, "Raising Twice-Exceptional Children: A Handbook for Parents of Neurodivergent Gifted Kids," is now officially released! Emily and producer Dave Morris talk about the book, preview the contents, and discuss why parents will find it helpful. ABOUT THE BOOK Just because a child is gifted doesn't mean they don't have other types of neurodivergence, like ADHD, autism...
Technology: Keeping Kids Safe from the Digital Dark Side 20.01.2022 34:40
Technology use, for both kids and adults, is in uncharted territory. With 'sticky' algorithms, misleading information, and the tracking capabilities of technology companies, it's becoming more and more difficult to know where it's safe to go, and how much exposure is too much. Emily Kircher-Morris talks with Dr. Alex Packer , author of Slaying Digital Dragons , about how to navigate the murky wate...
What's So Normal About Normal? 13.01.2022 31:51
Emily Kircher-Morris talks with Jonathan Mooney , who authored a book called Normal Sucks , and who learned to read at the age of 12. They talk about the gap between normal and neurodivergence, and how advocates can help bridge it effectively and permanently. Who can advocate? How does the life experience of neurodivergent people affect how they parent their own kids? How does the deficit-model ap...
2021's Biggest Conversations: Pathological Demand Avoidance (from episode 85) 01.01.2022 42:15
The language around autism and neurodiversity in general is changing. As part of the review of 2021's biggest conversations we present a chat with Kristy Forbes, founder of Australia-based inTune Pathways, about PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance), the difference between PDA and other types of demand avoidance, and the changing language of autism, especially the terminology society uses to describ...
2021's Biggest Conversations: Helping Kids With Anxiety (from episode 88) 31.12.2021 44:48
Parents often struggle with helping their children manage anxiety. Dr. Eli Lebowitz of Yale University talked with Emily Kircher-Morris about his research and work with children and their parents on managing anxiety and OCD. He's also developed a program to teach parents how to help their children with anxiety, and to help therapists learn new therapy techniques. This was one of the biggest conver...
2021's Biggest Conversations: Supporting Bright Kids (from episode 89) 30.12.2021 36:53
How can we knock down the walls that surround many neurodivergent kids? Should teachers play a role in their students' social and emotional well-being, or is school only about academic rigor? What are some teaching techniques that will get kids talking and participating? Emily Kircher-Morris and Jim Delisle have a conversation about ways to release the potential often locked inside neurodivergent...
2021's Biggest Conversations: Oppositional Defiant Disorder (from episode 92) 29.12.2021 32:44
One of the more misunderstood diagnoses in the world of neurodiversity is ODD, or Oppositional Defiant Disorder. We talk with Amelia Bowler, a behavior consultant and author of the book "The Parent's Guide to Oppositional Defiant Disorder," about the diagnosis, and how to be better at decoding the message that kids are trying to send through their defiance. This conversation is from another of the...
2021's Biggest Conversations: Rejection Sensitivity Disorder (from episode 83) 28.12.2021 39:03
Most of us have at least some rejection sensitivity, but with neurodivergent people it's often magnified. Emily Kircher-Morris talks with Brendan Mahan, an ADHD and executive function consultant, about how to reduce or overcome rejection sensitivity. This is an episode everyone can benefit from, and don't forget to check out Brendan's podcast, ADHD Essentials. This conversation is one of the most...
From Illiterate to Doctor Dyslexia Dude: A Superhero Story 08.12.2021 32:14
"By the time you're 18, you'll be dead or in jail." When those words come from your teacher or coach, it takes a long time to unlearn that belief. This is the story of a troubled twice-exceptional teen who had no idea about his diagnosis until after he fought his way into college. Today, Dr. Shawn A Robinson is a reading instructor at Madison College , and a Senior Research Associate in Wisconsin'...
Grateful 25.11.2021 12:30
What are you grateful for regarding neurodiversity? Our listeners share their thoughts, and Emily Kircher-Morris reflects on the things she's thankful for during this kickoff of the 2021 holiday season. While we're on the subject, thank YOU for making 2021 the biggest year of growth in our history! You can support the podcast and receive subscriber-only benefits at www.patreon.com/neurodiversity ....
Education's Equity Challenge 11.11.2021 37:02
Emily Kircher-Morris has a discussion with Joy Lawson Davis and Deb Douglas, authors of a new book called Empowering Underrepresented Gifted Students, about equity challenges in public education. They provide a snapshot of the contributors who helped write the book from their individual perspectives as marginalized, neurodivergent students, and describe why eliminating gifted programs won't fix eq...
Empowering People to Leap ADHD's Highest Hurdles 29.10.2021 33:32
Learning to empower our kids and students to do for themselves is often harder than just doing it for them. But ultimately they will need autonomy, so we must help them hone their executive function skills now. Emily Kircher-Morris talks with Sarah Kesty about how to go about helping our kids, and how to retrain teachers to help their students be self-empowered. It's another great conversation you...
ADHD Awareness Month - Another Brick in the Wall of Awful 25.10.2021 39:08
People with ADHD have to face both the strengths and struggles that come along with their diagnosis. During ADHD Awareness Month , we're presenting some important conversations we've had along the way about ADHD, including this conversation with Brendan Mahan , who shares his struggle with ADHD and executive function. This conversation was first released in October of 2019. ABOUT THE GUEST - Brend...
Gifted, Talented, and Neurodiverse Awareness Week 21.10.2021 27:47
Emily Kircher-Morris previews the inaugural GTN Awareness Week with Marc Smolowitz , producer and director of the upcoming movie The G-Word . We talk about the organization behind the event and how you can get involved. GTN Awareness week is October 25-29, and will feature different events each day. To take part in the free activities and discussions, go to www.thegwordfilm.com . To hear the inter...
ADHD by any other name? Try "Attention Divergent Hyperactive Giftedness" 18.10.2021 33:27
People with ADHD have to face both the strengths and struggles that come along with their diagnosis. When ADHD is combined with giftedness (twice-exceptionality), those struggles can be magnified, or maybe worse, hidden. On episode 100 Dr. Matthew Fugate shares data from his research about ADHD and provides parents and teachers insight into better understanding our kids. This conversation was firs...
Improving the Anxious Lives of Neurodivergent Kids 15.10.2021 29:54
Today's classroom can feel like an alien environment for neurodivergent learners, and the resulting anxiety can derail and disrupt their educational experience. Simple and easily-implemented accommodations can completely change outcomes. How important is placement for a child's happiness and well-being? What do psychological professionals understand that educators often don't? Creating an educati...
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