Spotify R&D

NerdOut@Spotify

NerdOut@Spotify is a technology podcast produced by the nerds at Spotify and made for the nerd inside all of us. Hear from Spotify engineers about challenging tech problems and get a firsthand look into what we're doing, what we're building, and what we’re nerding out about at Spotify every day.

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Spotify R&D

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Technology

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engineering.atspotify.com

Latest episode

Jun 11, 2026

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Episodes

36: How the BBC Experiments at Scale: Learning Since 1922 11.06.2026

How do you build a culture of experimentation inside a 100-year-old institution? This episode is part of our special miniseries on product experimentation where we go beyond A/B testing basics to explore how teams build experimentation culture, move faster with data, and make smarter product bets in practice. Hosting this series are two of Spotify’s finest experimentation nerds: Luke Frake, group...

35: How Huel Experiments at Scale: Beyond A/B Tests 28.05.2026

What happens when a seven-person data team restarts an experimentation program from scratch — and gets the whole company running experiments within months? Welcome to the first episode of our special miniseries on product experimentation. Now that you can build almost anything faster than ever, what matters most is learning what to build, what to keep, and what to put back on the shelf. Over the n...

34: Redesigning our Apple TV App *Release Notes* 05.03.2026

What does it take to ship a video-first Spotify experience on the biggest screen in your house? In this Release Notes episode of the NerdOut@Spotify podcast, you’ll hear about the redesigned Spotify app on Apple TV — why we rebuilt it, what it took to build a fully native tvOS app from the ground up, and how we evolved from a templated TVML-based UI to a modern, pixel-perfect experience. The resul...

33: Ship Happens (When Agents Code) 15.01.2026

At Spotify, we're doubling down on background coding agents. The goal is to scale code migrations and boost developer productivity beyond our existing automation system. Built on top of Fleet Management and supercharged by Claude Code, these agents make their own code changes and pull requests. What could possibly go wrong? Engineers Jo Kelly-Fenton, Aleksander Mitic, and Max Charas join host...

32: ARM-ing Ourselves with Google Axion, Part 2 19.11.2025

In part two of ARM-ing ourselves with Google Axion, Dave is joined by Max Charas, a senior staff engineer at Spotify who’s been leading much of the migration work on our Google Axion journey, for a deep dive into the validation and technical side of our move to Google’s new ARM-based processors. Dave and Max unpack what went smoothly, what got bumpy, and what you only discover when you try to run...

31: ARM-ing Ourselves with Google Axion, Part 1 08.10.2025

Spotify is in the middle of a big shift in modern computing: moving from x86 processors to Google’s new ARM-based Axion chips. This isn’t just a hardware swap — it’s a disruptive change with ripple effects across performance, efficiency, and sustainability. In this episode, we sit down with Mo Farhat, Group Product Manager for Google Compute Engine, to unpack what makes ARM so game-changing in the...

30: Building AiKA: Spotify’s AI Knowledge Assistant 14.08.2025

Hear about the journey behind building Spotify’s AI knowledge assistant, aka AiKA — from hack projects to internal chatbot, to enterprise developer tool. While general purpose chatbots are being used everywhere, they often fall short when it comes to navigating company-specific information — like which internal policy applies to your team or where to find the doc someone shared in Slack three mont...

29: Deploying Our New Typeface: Spotify Mix 03.04.2025

Last year Spotify launched a big update to the app: a new typeface.  For most of us, changing fonts is easy. It’s just a dropdown menu away. But creating a whole new typeface and then rolling it out across 45 unique platforms, and over 2,000 types of devices spread across 200 brands – that’s not so simple.  This brand new font is called Spotify Mix and it was made just for Spotify. From playlists...

28: The CNCF Turns 10 06.03.2025

Ever heard of Kubernetes? Envoy? Prometheus? You probably have. But what you may not know is that these projects are managed and sustained by the Cloud Native Computing Foundation, aka the CNCF .  Cloud native computing allows IT and software to move faster, and open source projects are essential to furthering these innovations and keeping them accessible for everyone. The CNCF is dedicated to fos...

Join us for Wizards, Portals, and Spotify for Backstage 19.04.2024

Register for Spotify’s roadmap webinar on April 30, 2024 — and see what’s coming next from Spotify for Backstage, the open source platform for building internal developer portals. We’ll show you our latest developer tools, including a sneak peek at new Spotify Plugins for Backstage and a first-look at Spotify Portal for Backstage — a full-featured developer portal that is quick and easy for any en...

27: Measuring Developer Productivity 18.04.2024

Host and principal engineer Dave Zolotusky talks with Kyle Buttner, a product manager on Spotify’s insights team, to discuss Spotify's journey in measuring developer productivity — from how we evaluate different frameworks (like DORA and SPACE) to what kind of data we collect, to the role Backstage plays in unifying our development practices. Can productivity metrics really draw an accurate pi...

26: A Trillion Events 08.02.2024

How did we learn to do event delivery at scale at Spotify? It’s been a journey. When you do something like tap the play button in the Spotify app, that’s an event. And getting that event data is fundamental to the Spotify experience. Without it, we wouldn’t be able to make music recommendations, pay artists fairly, or track down pesky, hard-to-find bugs. At the most basic level, this seems like a...

25: Voice Translation *Release Notes* 11.01.2024

We’ve seen generative AI and large language models do some amazing things in the past year — but how do you go from a tech demo to a real shipping product? In this Release Notes episode of the NerdOut@Spotify podcast, we’ll hear about what it took to ship our Voice Translation pilot, which takes podcasts recorded in English and uses AI to generate the original podcaster’s voice speaking in Spanish...

24: Tesla *Release Notes* 09.11.2023

Over the summer, Spotify helped Tesla engineers ship a major update to their built-in media player . In this Release Notes episode, host Dave Zolotusky talks with Spotify engineering manager Geetika Arora and senior product designer JC Chhim about collaborating with Tesla to improve the in-car listening experience, the value of having a familiar user experience across devices, and how there’s more...

23: Searching for Neighbors with Voyager 19.10.2023

How do you get a machine to find a song that’s similar to another song? What properties of the song should it look for? And then does it just compare each track to every other track, one by one, until it finds the closest match? When you have a catalog of 100 million different music tracks, like we do at Spotify, that would take a long time. So, for these kinds of problems, we use a technique know...

22: Declarative Infra and Beyond 24.08.2023

In the very old days, if you needed more storage for your database, you had to walk into the data center and install another server. Now you can just log into your cloud provider’s console and click a few buttons. Voilá, more storage. So easy! But what if you’re replicating that storage configuration for hundreds of databases at once? Suddenly, that’s a lot more clicking. Not so easy! (Plus, very...

21: The Man Who Killed ABBA 03.08.2023

Last episode, we talked about ABBA, our first A/B testing tool. We used it to test UI changes, new features, content recommendations — anything and everything we could think of. ABBA was so good and worked so well for so long…that we decided to get rid of it. Years of using ABBA taught us what makes for good experimentation, and we eventually realized we needed a better tool, built from scratch. L...

20: The Rise and Fall of ABBA 22.06.2023

Back in the day, Spotify built a custom A/B testing tool called ABBA. It was great. The platform enabled lots of teams to try out lots of ideas for new features to see what worked and what didn’t. With ABBA, we went from doing tens of experiments to hundreds of experiments. But we didn’t just learn what color button users liked better: the more tests we ran, the more we learned about our testing m...

19: Engineering for Accessibility 01.06.2023

We’re often focused on features that improve the experience for users — letting them do something better, faster, smarter. But if you don’t consider accessibility issues, many users won’t be able to use the feature at all. From color contrast and text size to alt text for enabling screen readers and voice commands, accessibility issues can affect everyone, whether you have a permanent disability o...

18: Meet Your Personal AI DJ 04.05.2023

How do you make an AI-generated voice feel more like a real person? You give it a real personality. Spotify recently released a new feature in the US and Canada called DJ. Turn it on, and you hear a curated selection of music and recommendations, along with a fun, friendly, knowledgeable voice telling you more about what you’re listening to (you know, like a real DJ) — except everything you hear i...

17: Building Apps at Spotify Scale 16.03.2023

What happens when the standard tooling for iOS and Android just doesn't cut it anymore? What’s it like to maintain an app when there are literally thousands of commits every week? How do you develop your feature without worrying about everybody else’s feature, when at the end of the day, you’re shipping a single, massive app? In other words, what’s it really like to build apps at Spotify’s scale?...

16: Backstage Adopters Speak 23.02.2023

Whether you’re working at a major financial institution or an audio streaming platform, it turns out engineering teams face a lot of the same challenges to doing their jobs effectively. In this episode, you’ll hear Spotify’s head of technology and platforms, Tyson Singer, discuss developer experience with engineering leaders from Expedia Group, Bank of the West, consulting firm Booz Allen Hamilton...

15: Your Very Own Developer Advocate 02.02.2023

There are thousands of developers building great Spotify experiences — who don’t actually work at Spotify. From smart speakers to game consoles to car infotainment systems, how do we support this diverse, creative community building on top of the Spotify platform? Along with providing APIs, SDKs, and other developer tools, it starts with something even more fundamental: listening to and understand...

14: For Love and Money? 12.01.2023

From Norway to Nebraska, there are individual developers keeping the open source projects that we all depend on going. Last year, Spotify started an annual fund to help support maintainers of free and open source software (FOSS) — the Spotify FOSS Fund. We earmarked 100,000 Euros and then gave it away to nine projects, no strings attached. One of those recipients was Byte Buddy, a project with mil...

13: Advent of Code Live! 15.12.2022

Recorded live at midnight EST, December 6, 2022, from Boston, Gothenburg, and Stockholm, via the Spotify Live app. In this special Advent of Code episode, we try to solve the Day 6 puzzle the moment it’s released. Host Dave Zolotusky and Spotify’s chief architect, Niklas Gustavsson (aka, ngn), play against Spotify’s reigning champ, the one and only, unstoppable Jimmy Mårdell. Entering today’s chal...

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