Ben & Divia

Mutual Understanding

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A podcast where we seek to understand our mutual's worldviews mutualunderstanding.substack.com

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Ben & Divia

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May 22, 2026

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Episodes

Shea and I talk about how money works 22.05.2026

For some reason, Riverside didn’t generate chapter topics for me this time, so they aren’t here, sorry! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit mutualunderstanding.substack.com

Shea and I talk Rawl, desert/luck, and hantavirus 13.05.2026

00:00 Introduction to the Discussion 03:38 Wealth, Luck, and Property Rights 04:53 Self-Esteem and Cultural Identity 06:17 Cultural Degradation and Ethno-Nationalism 09:27 Owing to Evolution 10:30 The Role of Evolution in Human Existence 12:36 Credit and Value Creation 14:40 AI and Evolutionary Debt 15:49 Rand’s Critique of Rawls 22:08 Judging Reality and Human Values 23:58 Gratitude Towards Evolu...

Shreeda interviews me about parenting 07.05.2026

I think we got somewhere more by the end, so if you listen to part of it, I recommend starting near the end! You can find Shreeda here . 00:00 Introduction to Intentional Parenting 03:06 Understanding Unschooling vs. Homeschooling 05:59 Daily Life in an Unschooling Family 08:55 Critique of Traditional Schooling 12:01 Personal Experiences with Schooling 14:59 The Role of Relationships in Parenting...

Ethics isn't a truce, with me and Shea 04.05.2026

Some things I said I’d link: * Shea and Emmett talk red pill blue pill * Shea and me talking about metaphysics of value Some timestamps: 00:00 Revisiting the Red Pill Blue Pill Discourse 09:20 Ethics as a Truce in Politics 20:22 The Role of Free Speech in Society 25:51 Court Packing and Political Norms 32:10 Gerrymandering: The Nature of Representation 40:05 The Role of Honesty in Political Discou...

Shea and I talk some behaviorism and more parenting 02.04.2026

I hope to get back into recording more regularly soon, but no promises. Life has been pretty busy for me lately. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit mutualunderstanding.substack.com

Very Outdated Iran takes, and some other stuff 02.04.2026

Apologies for taking forever to edit this podcast we recorded or Feb 7. We talked about the Iran situation some which was all before the US attacked, but there was some other stuff too. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit mutualunderstanding.substack.com

Kave and I talk adventure games etc. 21.11.2025

Relatively rambling as usual, especially the second half I think. I hope some of you enjoy it! Some links: * Kave on X * Kave’s blog (with his excellent Inkhaven posts) * some tweets of mine about being stuck in puzzles * Justin Wack and the Big Time Hack * Scott Whiskers * Mutropolis * Golden Idol games This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get acce...

Matt Bateman, Aaron Stupple and I talk kids and freedom 14.11.2025

Last week, I went to see Matt Bateman and Aaron Stupple talk about their parenting disagreements at The Montessorium , the (pretty new!) school Matt created. I enjoyed their conversation, wanted to hear even more, asked them if they’d be up for coming on my podcast, and they did! Probably the best place to find more is on X.com, and here are a few more links too: * Aaron’s book, The Sovereign Chil...

Shea and I talk UBI studies and the metaphysics of value 28.08.2025

A bunch of this was me trying to understanding Shea’s metaphysics of value and also where he sees property rights as coming from. It may have been more repetitive than usual, since I kept asking him to explain stuff again, but it was helpful for me at least! We reference this series of blog posts about proposed reforms to zoning laws. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this wit...

Shea and I talk intrapersonal property rights etc 01.08.2025

Shea started out talking about recognizing thought processes as value-laden, and then we got into ~psych debugging a way I think some of my thought processes haven’t been respecting what I think are the correct internal property rights. Shea updated somewhat about what I mean when I’m saying things in an IFS framing. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscriber...

Malcolm Ocean and I talk about collective IFS Self 26.06.2025

Some things we mentioned include: * A Positive Account of Property Rights * the original instructions for we-ness * someone's write-up of the we-ship experiment that Malcolm ran (the one where we did the "goodbye for now, Malcolm") Malcolm also posted the same conversation but with video to his YouTube channel if you want that! I’ve included some automatically generated chapter timestamps in case...

Shea and I talk military theory and also about how we have bigger families 14.06.2025

I probably should have split this up into two episodes, but instead it’s all together. The first part of the conversation is basically about how Shea thinks military conflicts should work in the modern world, with the recent Israel and Iran war as a jumping off point. We talked about The West Wing speech about a proportional response. I tried to summarize what I thought Shea was saying about his t...

Ben and I talk politics and predictions 06.06.2025

I had a fun time catching up with my former cohost! Some links we mentioned: * Ben's website * Ben’s substack * Good Strategy Bad Strategy * my blog This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit mutualunderstanding.substack.com

Shea and I talk scarfgate and how ethics works 17.05.2025

We talked about the scarfgate and it turned into a whole thing about how discussions of ethics should work. We didn’t even really get to the part about “high agency”! We did get to analyzing how I pirated music when I was in college. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit mutualunderstanding.substack.com

Shea and I talk neurodivergence and how to think about it 03.05.2025

We only had a time for a short episode today, but I hadn’t recorded anything in a while, so here it is! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit mutualunderstanding.substack.com

Sarah Constantin and I talk emotions 04.04.2025

I saw this Twitter thread from Sarah and offered her to talk to her about it on a podcast, and Aaron volunteered to moderate. I was more taking the position that all emotions are functional, and Sarah was approaching things from a more bio-realist perspective. Ultimately, I don’t think we disagreed about all that much once we hashed it out! Some things we referenced: * How Emotions are Made * It’s...

Shea and I talk epistemology etc 20.03.2025

In this podcast, we recap a conversation we didn’t record where Shea and I talked about epistemology and decision theory, and I decided to flag it more when I say “but what would that even mean” I also made a case for subjective probability as a useful concept, and we talked a little about politics at the end. At one point I referenced this LW post that mentions confidence and credence. AI generat...

Cristie Henry on unschooling 13.02.2025

I had a great time talking to my friend Cristie Henry about unschooling, an educational philosophy that we both practice within our families. And here’s a link to the thing I wrote about unschooling that I mentioned when we were talking. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit mutualunderstanding.substack.com

Jordan Myska Allen on metaphysics, identity, better social media, etc. 31.01.2025

I caught up with my friend Jordan, and we talked about a whole bunch of stuff! Not a very organized conversation, and I hope you enjoy it. You can find him at The Relateful Company , and his new company Uptrust should be online soon at uptrusthq.com This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit mutualunderstanding.substack...

Some recent dog training updates 24.01.2025

A pretty rambling podcast about what’s been going through my head recently when trying to work on getting our dogs and cats comfortable with each other. tldr; I think I was accidentally messing up my training plans by using spatial pressure without realizing it, and I think I better get how Argos’s frustration is working This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscr...

Re: Kave Rennedy on natural law conflicting with itself 10.01.2025

I started a threadapalooza on natural law , Kave responded with some thoughts on natural law conflicting with itself, and now I have recorded some thoughts on what I think natural law means and why I think it doesn't. All of this is quite inspired by what David Friedman wrote on property rights . This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bo...

Thoughts on Kid Behavior Change 03.01.2025

In this episode I try to talk though one of my top go-to frameworks for thinking through what to do when my kids are doing stuff that doesn’t work for me, or them, or the family. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit mutualunderstanding.substack.com

Shea Levy on why he disagrees with Less Wrong rationality, Part 2 28.12.2024

It was great having Shea back on to finish up our conversation from the other week! We talked somewhat more about the Less Wrong rationality stuff, and also hit some other topics like Shea’s issues with libertarians, why he’s against altruism, how consciousness works, and what he thinks about LLMs. He mentioned two books, The Ominous Parallels and The Open Society and Its Enemies . This is a publi...

Ruth Wong on Cornerstone Kids, not Capstone Kids 28.12.2024

This podcast came out of a twitter conversation Ruth and I had, and we ended up comparing notes about a lot of our parenting tactics and approaches, including how to not be too stressed while having kids. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit mutualunderstanding.substack.com

Attachment Theory and Object Permanence 06.12.2024

I was going to record with a guest today, but we ended up rescheduling, so instead I talked about some things I think about attachment theory and object permanence. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit mutualunderstanding.substack.com

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