Dr. Steve Shanley and Alan Feirer
Music Ed Insights
Dr. Steve Shanley, Alan Feirer, and national thought leaders explore current issues in music education, with practical application for K-12 music educators.
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Jul 8, 2026
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Episodes
Excellence Doesn’t Have a Number: Susan Smith on Small Band Empowerment 08.07.2026 46:08
Alan and Steve talk with Susan Smith live at the Iowa Bandmasters Association Conference about small band empowerment, smart repertoire choices, adjudication, and what it means to teach the students in front of you. Susan challenges the idea that smaller programs should have lower standards, reminding directors that success is about culture, musical growth, and meaningful experiences—not just size...
AI Can’t Play Your Trumpet: Why Music Education Matters More Than Ever 01.07.2026 23:37
Alan and Steve respond to Mia Silverio’s Prof G article “What AI Is Doing to School,” which raises serious concerns about students outsourcing writing, attention, and critical thinking to AI. Rather than treating the article only as doom and gloom, they see an advocacy opportunity for music educators: band, choir, orchestra, jazz, and other fine arts classes still require students to think, listen...
Cynthia Johnston Turner Live at IBA: Product, People, and Improvisation in the Band Room 24.06.2026 49:23
Recorded live at the 2026 Iowa Bandmasters Association conference, Alan and Steve sit down with conductor and educator Cynthia Johnston Turner for a candid conversation about what really matters in the band room. Cynthia unpacks how she moved from a fear‑ and product‑driven rehearsal culture to one centered on psychological safety, inclusion, and community—without lowering musical standards. She s...
Quick Pro Tip: Getting Students to Meet Deadlines 28.05.2026 7:32
Alan and Steve dig into a common teacher frustration: students who don’t take deadlines seriously. Alan shares a practical approach to setting deadlines that actually mean something—by clearly explaining the “why,” distinguishing between preferred and true drop-dead dates, and avoiding fake or inflated due dates that desensitize students. Steve adds perspective as someone who struggles with deadli...
MindShifting for Music Teachers: Turning “I Can’t” into “Perhaps I Can” with Mitch Weisburgh 20.05.2026 26:47
Alan and Steve talk with educator and mind‑shifting coach Mitch Weisburgh about how music teachers can help students—and themselves—move from limbic “survival mode” into resourceful, resilient, and collaborative mindsets. They explore how to respond when students say “I can’t do this,” how to use music itself as a powerful self‑regulation tool, and how small shifts in language, silence, and curios...
Quick Pro Tip: A Fast, Effective Way to Review This Year and Plan the Next 13.05.2026 9:54
Alan and Steve share a fast, practical debrief tool you can use after a concert, contest, trip, marching season, or school year: WWW/TALA — What Went Well and Take A Look At. Built on Alan’s longtime approach to project improvement, this quick tip shows music teachers how to gather useful feedback in just a few minutes, avoid over-talking the debrief, and save the right notes so next year’s planni...
Beats, Bands, and Attention Spans: A Conversation with Amani Roberts 06.05.2026 29:52
DJ, author, and music business professor Amani Roberts joins Alan and Steve to unpack how today’s students are listening to and creating music—and what that means for K–12 music educators. In this episode, they discuss: Why teens prefer singles and short-form content over full albums Strategies for teaching deep listening using artists like Taylor Swift and Kendrick Lamar The rise of beat-making a...
Lessons from Student Travel: Live from Walt Disney World with Alan & Steve 28.04.2026 25:10
Student trips are more expensive and more complex than ever—so are they still worth it? In this episode of Music Ed Insights, Alan and Steve return to the very same Disney resort room where they recorded a student travel episode two years ago to unpack what they’ve learned from nearly 30 years of group travel. They explore the non‑negotiables that make trips work: staff‑led communication and hype,...
Teaching Today’s Kids: Inclusion, Accommodations, and Family Partnerships with Cortez Daniel 20.04.2026 27:14
Alan and Steve talk with Athens, Georgia–based music educator and Tones Collective co‑founder Cortez Daniel about what he’s learning from teaching “today’s kids” in K–12 and community settings. Cortez shares how his work in public schools and with organizations like Evergreen Children’s Chorale and Tones Collective informs his approach to accommodations that maintain rigor, preventing learned help...
Quick Pro Tip: One Rule in Music - Make it Sound Good - but HOW? 06.04.2026 5:09
Just in time for spring contest preparation, Alan and Steve unpack one deceptively simple idea: “There’s one rule in music – make it sound good.” If that’s true, what does it actually look like in rehearsal? Steve breaks the rule into six practical priorities great ensembles share: accurate attacks, correct pitches, the best possible tone, solid blend, clean releases, and a clear melody that’s n...
Everyone Can Move: Michael Rosales on Movement for Every Music Program 31.03.2026 27:38
Alan and Steve talk with choreographer and movement educator Michael Rosales (Carolina Crown, Bluecoats, Santa Clara Vanguard, The Breakdown Camp) about why every student—and every director—can move with confidence. They explore how to use simple, safe movement to teach rhythm and expression, how band and choir directors can lead movement without being “dance people,” and concrete ways K–12 music...
Quick Pro Tip: Do You Hold Your Students to Standards you Sometime Miss Yourself? 24.03.2026 5:58
Steve and Alan take on a touchy but important topic: the gap between what we ask from students and what we actually model ourselves. They admit their own everyday hypocrisies (hello, phones at stoplights and slow email replies) and then connect it to the music room: punctuality, effort, communication, reflection, and how we respond when others drop the ball. You’ll hear the difference between heal...
Teaching the Bigger Picture: Russ Gershon on Context, Curiosity, and Ethiopian Grooves 11.03.2026 27:46
Composer, bandleader, and educator Russ Gershon (Either/Orchestra) joins us to explore how music becomes a window into history, geography, and human connection. Russ shares how he uses songs like “Proud Mary” with K–4 students to teach rivers, steamboats, and timelines; how storytelling and context make improvisation less scary for teens; and what Ethiopian modes and rhythms can offer our ensemble...
Quick Pro Tip: Rethinking Flex Charts for All Ensembles 02.03.2026 9:46
Steve and Alan take on the bad reputation of “flex” music and make the case for using flexible-instrumentation charts as a musical tool, not a last-resort compromise. They compare band culture to choir and orchestra traditions, talk honestly about attention spans and rehearsal efficiency, and explain how fewer parts can actually mean more learning and less boredom. You’ll hear practical ideas for...
José Antonio Zayas Cabán connects Latin Jazz, Community Care, and Classroom Practice 23.02.2026 30:17
Grammy-nominated saxophonist, educator, and activist José A. Zayas Cabán joins us to connect what’s happening on the streets of the Twin Cities with what happens in our music rooms. He shares firsthand experiences of the recent Twin Cities ICE presence, the trauma and courage in his community, and the economic fallout for immigrant neighbors and local businesses. From there, we dig into the univer...
Quick Pro Tip: Making the Most of Your Honor Ensemble Day 16.02.2026 10:42
Alan and Steve share practical strategies for conducting honor bands, choirs, and orchestras without burning everyone out. They walk through smart programming (including why you must have one easier “win” piece), how to structure the first read-through, when to cut music, and how to build student confidence quickly so the experience feels challenging, musical, and genuinely rewarding.
Building Musical Community: Stacey Ryan on School of Rock’s Social Impact 09.02.2026 28:14
Stacey Ryan of School of Rock joins Alan and Steve to unpack a new social-impact study showing how ensemble music-making boosts students’ happiness, confidence, and teamwork over time. They discuss data on mental health and motivation, strategies for building belonging in K–12 music programs, the All Stars touring model, and why partnerships between school music programs and School of Rock can be...
Classic Episode Re-Release: Lee Nelson on Choral Literature - and Way More! 03.02.2026 25:56
Alan and Steve invite you to revisit our third episode, and find that many of the tangents were intriguing, helpful, and thought-provoking for all educators. We’ll be back with a new guest next week.
Quick Pro Tip: When to be Human...and When to be Transactional 26.01.2026 9:25
Alan and Steve explore a surprising communication skill for music educators: knowing when to write warm, story-driven messages—and when to strip things down to simple, factual, policy-based communication. They talk about how over-explaining can actually weaken your position with parents, administrators, and outside entities, and offer practical examples of short, clear, “transactional” language th...
Quick Pro Tip: Handling Angry Parents Without Losing Your Cool 19.01.2026 10:14
Alan and Steve tackle one of the toughest parts of the job: responding to upset parents by email, text, phone, or conference. They walk through how to move emotional conversations to the right channel, listen and summarize without getting defensive, name a shared goal for the student, set clear boundaries around what you can and can’t do, and know when to loop in administrators—so advocacy becomes...
Quick Pro Tip: Why “Attitude Is Everything” Can Miss the Mark 12.01.2026 9:23
Alan and Steve question the classic slogan “attitude is everything” and explain why it can unintentionally shame students who are already having a rough day. Instead of trying to “fix” someone’s mindset, they suggest a more practical approach: focus on observable behavior, name its impact on the ensemble, and make clear, doable requests. The result is a healthier culture where students can have im...
Quick Pro Tip: Pride, Hubris, and Your Ensemble Culture 18.12.2025 11:04
Alan and Steve respond to a listener question about ensemble pride and dig into the fine line between healthy confidence and toxic hubris in competitive groups—whether it’s show choir, marching band, jazz band, or orchestra. They connect ideas like humility, empathy, narcissism, the Dunning–Kruger effect, and imposter syndrome to the way we talk about our own programs and other ensembles, offering...
Quick Pro Tip: Make Your Program Notes Do More Work 08.12.2025 5:50
Alan and Steve dig into why writing program notes matters more than you think—not just for the audience, but for you and your students. They share practical tips on researching and personalizing notes, avoiding jargon, highlighting student performers, deciding when to speak from the stage, and even using ChatGPT to draft print and spoken versions that match the quality of your ensemble’s performan...
Quick Pro Tip: Smarter Advocacy Without Sounding Like a Whiner 01.12.2025 9:15
Alan and Steve draw on Alan’s 19 years in the classroom and 15 years in the corporate world to reframe how music educators advocate for their programs. Instead of leaning on “we work nights and weekends,” they suggest focusing on what’s truly unique about teaching—rigid schedules, limited autonomy, and underfunded programs—and how to talk to administrators, board members, and community leaders in...
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